RE : Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
spam getting worst than I thought! as long as the white list do not grow up... De : Stephen Gran [sg...@debian.org] Date d'envoi : 22 mai 2009 17:30 À : dda Objet : Who uses @packages.d.o mail? Hello all, So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. If this isn't possible, we'll of course continue to offer it as a public service if it's needed. It's just that if it doesn't need to be a public facing mail domain, we all get a little less spam in our inbox, and the service becomes easier to administer. In the large scheme of things, of course, 1000 spams a day is pretty minimal. The amount of processing power that goes into turning away the other 6 mails/day and then resending the 1000 spams that do get through, though, does approach significance, and I'd like to make it simple to admin and more friendly to the final recipients. Cheers, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :sg...@debian.org | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Hi, I've always found package@packages.debian.org as the easiest way to contact the maintainer and anyone involved, for example if I'm working on a particular package I'll contact the co-maintainers using that mailing list. It is also good because you don't need to request for a mailing list where you don't really need one (in my case it's just 5-6 mails a month). Cheers Antonio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On May 23, Steve M. Robbins st...@sumost.ca wrote: I'm open to other options, of course. What is the recommended practice for this scenario? Implement spam filtering? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: Hello all, So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. I occasionally do use this route, although I could email the package maintainers directly. Would it be possible to allow mail from arbitrary hosts as long as it has some special header, say X-Debian-Pkg: foo where foo matches the package being mailed? However, I wouldn't personally have a problem with it being blocked completely from non-Debian machines. Julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: Hello all, So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. If this isn't possible, we'll of course continue to offer it as a public service if it's needed. It's just that if it doesn't need to be a public facing mail domain, we all get a little less spam in our inbox, and the service becomes easier to administer. In the large scheme of things, of course, 1000 spams a day is pretty minimal. The amount of processing power that goes into turning away the other 6 mails/day and then resending the 1000 spams that do get through, though, does approach significance, and I'd like to make it simple to admin and more friendly to the final recipients. How hard would it be to set up a self-service whitelisting interface? I've used @packages.do.o addresses sporadically in the past to contact package maintainers when I've been too lazy to look them up. regards Andrew signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Marco d'Itri wrote: On May 23, Steve M. Robbins st...@sumost.ca wrote: I'm open to other options, of course. What is the recommended practice for this scenario? Implement spam filtering? I think adding the lists.debian.org and bugs.debian.org ruleset[1] to packages.debian.org (possibly with some tweaks) will help resolve the issue with spam flowing through packages.debian.org. [The only other issue is that packages.debian.org's MX is on a restricted machine, so we'd need wider access to the mail logs to track down false positives.] Don Armstrong 1: svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-listmaster/trunk/spamassassin_config -- If you find it impossible to believe that the universe didn't have a creator, why don't you find it impossible that your creator didn't have one either? -- Anonymous Coward http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167556cid=13970629 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri 22 May 2009, Stephen Gran wrote: So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. I have received legitimate email from users of a package sent to pack...@packages.debian.org. I thought that was also the main purpose of those email addresses... They could have looked up the real maintainer email, but the packages.debian.org thing makes it easier. I think simply refusing mail with only an image attached would help against the spam. Certainly all the spam I've received via packages.debian.org the last couple of months was image spam, mail size 14-19kB. Paul Slootman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. What about requiring a GPG signed email by key in developers or maintainers keyring? Regards Artur -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: Hello all, So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. I use packages.debian.org each time I reassign a bug to a package to make sure the new maintainer is notified. I think this should be a best practice. I also use it to reach maintainers where a full bug report is not warranted. So I disagree with closing down this service. Cheers, -- Bill. ballo...@debian.org Imagine a large red swirl here. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Bill Allombert wrote: I use packages.debian.org each time I reassign a bug to a package to make sure the new maintainer is notified. I think this should be a best practice. BTS automatically adds maintainers of package where bug went to To/CC of reassign mail, doesn't it? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maintainer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Saturday 23 May 2009, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: What about requiring a GPG signed email by key in developers or maintainers keyring? As others have already mentioned, the addresses are also intended as contact point for upstream developers and users, i.e. people who don't have such a key. Requiring some magic header is a bad idea for the same reason. Cheers, FJP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:46:08PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Bill Allombert wrote: I use packages.debian.org each time I reassign a bug to a package to make sure the new maintainer is notified. I think this should be a best practice. BTS automatically adds maintainers of package where bug went to To/CC of reassign mail, doesn't it? Please note that Stephen Gran (only on -project I think) mentioned that the proposal is off the table after people indicated it is indeed being used. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Stephen Gran wrote: It sounds like the service should probably stay open. I would have been happy to restrict something that is only a spam attractor, but if it's more than that, than I'm happy people find it a useful service. If the teams who do use it think it can still be useful and be restricted, that's a discussion I still think is worth having, but I don't think we need to rush towards it. It is a useful service, definitely. If I remember right a X-... header is required for delivering vcs mails from external servers, this should block spam very well there. Its not really possible to use such restrictions on the mailtainer contact mail, though. -- Bernd Zeimetz Debian GNU/Linux Developer GPG Fingerprint: 06C8 C9A2 EAAD E37E 5B2C BE93 067A AD04 C93B FF79 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Allombert wrote: I use packages.debian.org each time I reassign a bug to a package to make sure the new maintainer is notified. I think this should be a best practice. BTS automatically adds maintainers of package where bug went to To/CC of reassign mail, doesn't it? They just receive the response from the BTS. However often the mails sent *too* the bts look like this: reassign 123456 example thanks [lengthy explanation why this is a bug in example] and the response from the bts ends after the thanks, missing the explanation. cu andreas -- `What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other friends are so grateful to you.' `I sew his ears on from time to time, sure' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:58:32PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Eugene V. Lyubimkin jackyf.de...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Allombert wrote: I use packages.debian.org each time I reassign a bug to a package to make sure the new maintainer is notified. I think this should be a best practice. BTS automatically adds maintainers of package where bug went to To/CC of reassign mail, doesn't it? They just receive the response from the BTS. However often the mails sent *too* the bts look like this: reassign 123456 example thanks [lengthy explanation why this is a bug in example] and the response from the bts ends after the thanks, missing the explanation. That's why it is recommended to add the explanation, in comments (#), above the BTS control commands. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Jonathan Wiltshire said: The debian-l10n-english team, and perhaps others, use this domain to keep the maintainer in the loop during Smith English-language reviews and the subsequent translations. This one time, at band camp, Adeodato Simó said: I use it all the time when eg. reassigning a bug (reassign mails are supposed to be CC'ed to the destination maintainers), rather than go up and look who's listed as maintainer and uploader and CC them all. These are the sort of helpful answers that make it clear that people do at least sporadically use the service. I didn't see anything useful in the week of logs I reviewed, but activity like that described above is probably reasonably 'spiky' and I'm not surprised I missed it. Keep in mind that it's the advertized way to get in touch with package maintainers at : http://www.debian.org - Contacts - Reporting problems in Debian packages - If you simply want to communicate with the maintainer of a Debian package, [..] package name@p.d.o Regards, Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Stephen Gran sg...@debian.org wrote: day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. What's the alternative way to send mail to the maintainer of a package? I don't use that feature every day, but when I use it every couple of months (more frequently at times where teTeX or TeXlive changes affected lots of other packages) I'm happy that I needn't check the maintainer in the control file. @packages.qa.debian.org has two disadvantages: I need to look up the source package name (which isn't hard), and I have to either remember, or be told by a bounce (?), that a special header needs to be included, and look up which in the developer's reference. Regards, Frank -- Dr. Frank Küster Debian Developer (TeXLive) VCD Aschaffenburg-Miltenberg, ADFC Miltenberg B90/Grüne KV Miltenberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
I use b...@packages.debian.org to contact the maintainer of blah. I use this to alert maintainers of reverse build-deps when I do something drastic to one of the libraries I maintain. I'm open to other options, of course. What is the recommended practice for this scenario? Thanks, -Steve signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Hello Stephen, On Friday 22 May 2009 16:30:03 Stephen Gran wrote: [...] If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. @packages.d.o is known to be the easiest way to get in touch with a maintainer, and is often used when CC'ing maintainers of multiple packages. Cheers, -- Raphael Geissert - Debian Maintainer www.debian.org - get.debian.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
Much appreciated. Thanks. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: Hello all, So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. If this isn't possible, we'll of course continue to offer it as a public service if it's needed. It's just that if it doesn't need to be a public facing mail domain, we all get a little less spam in our inbox, and the service becomes easier to administer. In the large scheme of things, of course, 1000 spams a day is pretty minimal. The amount of processing power that goes into turning away the other 6 mails/day and then resending the 1000 spams that do get through, though, does approach significance, and I'd like to make it simple to admin and more friendly to the final recipients. Cheers, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :sg...@debian.org | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
* Stephen Gran sg...@debian.org [2009-05-22 23:30:03 CEST]: If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. Not everyone has access to an debian.org machine, and @packages.debian.org is the address used in debconf po files for reporting messageID bugs to. A canonical easy way to reach the maintainer(s) of a package without digging around in various fields though is appreciated, and this is the one. So long, Rhonda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri, 22 May 2009 22:30:03 +0100 Stephen Gran sg...@debian.org wrote: Hello all, So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. It does save creating a specific alioth mailing list for a group of maintainers and uploaders. It's started being used for svn-buildpack...@p.d.o It's only a convenience thing for discussions that aren't actually related to existing bug reports. If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. If this isn't possible, we'll of course continue to offer it as a public service if it's needed. It's just that if it doesn't need to be a public facing mail domain, we all get a little less spam in our inbox, and the service becomes easier to administer. Maybe a list of packages that do use it and an address to email for those who want to start using it at a later date? -- Neil Williams = http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ http://e-mail.is-not-s.ms/ pgpaCrIvNHkC0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. The debian-l10n-english team, and perhaps others, use this domain to keep the maintainer in the loop during Smith English-language reviews and the subsequent translations. These mails almost certainly won't come from debian.org hosts (and not being a DD, mine couldn't do anyway). -- Jonathan Wiltshire PGP/GPG: 0xDB800B52 / 4216 F01F DCA9 21AC F3D3 A903 CA6B EA3E DB80 0B52 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. As I understand it, pkg@packages.d.o is the standard way of contacting the maintainers of a package in an easy and efficient way. I use it all the time when eg. reassigning a bug (reassign mails are supposed to be CC'ed to the destination maintainers), rather than go up and look who's listed as maintainer and uploader and CC them all. Plus, fortunately, packages.d.o has been sending a copy to the PTS for some time now, so even interested people who are not listed as maintainer/uploader will be able to read them. Personally, I think we should keep it open. If it becomes unsustainable, we could require a whitelist header for mail sent from non debian.org machines, like the PTS does. But if we do that, we could ditch it altogether and just use the PTS (for me, one of the main advantages of packages.d.o is not having to include the whitelist header). Does somebody know if the PTS is mailing the maintainers already? Cheers, -- - Are you sure we're good? - Always. -- Rory and Lorelai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Friday 22 May 2009, Stephen Gran wrote: So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, I always use it to CC the maintainer(s) of a package I reassign a bug to, or if I want to CC a package maintainer on some discussion. For me it's the most natural address to use, much more natural than package@p.qa.d.o. Cheers, FJP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Friday 22 May 2009, Neil Williams wrote: Maybe a list of packages that do use it and an address to email for those who want to start using it at a later date? That would defeat its purpose. It is not about which maintainers use it, but about who uses it to contact maintainers. Cheers, FJP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On May 22, Raphael Geissert atom...@gmail.com wrote: @packages.d.o is known to be the easiest way to get in touch with a maintainer, and is often used when CC'ing maintainers of multiple packages. Then it needs to be fixed, soon, because it the last few weeks I started receiving a huge quantity of trivially rejectable pills spam from it. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
This one time, at band camp, Jonathan Wiltshire said: The debian-l10n-english team, and perhaps others, use this domain to keep the maintainer in the loop during Smith English-language reviews and the subsequent translations. This one time, at band camp, Adeodato Simó said: I use it all the time when eg. reassigning a bug (reassign mails are supposed to be CC'ed to the destination maintainers), rather than go up and look who's listed as maintainer and uploader and CC them all. These are the sort of helpful answers that make it clear that people do at least sporadically use the service. I didn't see anything useful in the week of logs I reviewed, but activity like that described above is probably reasonably 'spiky' and I'm not surprised I missed it. It sounds like the service should probably stay open. I would have been happy to restrict something that is only a spam attractor, but if it's more than that, than I'm happy people find it a useful service. If the teams who do use it think it can still be useful and be restricted, that's a discussion I still think is worth having, but I don't think we need to rush towards it. Cheers, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :sg...@debian.org | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, (...) it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. I always give it to upstreams as a contact address for any issue around the package. In that way, even if I'm not the maintainer anymore, it will reach the right person. -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Who uses @packages.d.o mail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:30:03PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: So I've looked through a few weeks of mail logs to packages.debian.org, and it looks like it collects some useful mail from automated scripts on various debian.org machines (primarily ries), and about 1000 spams a day from elsewhere. I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail from machines other than the debian.org hosts. If this is actually the case, I'd like to close the domain down to only accept mail from other debian.org machines. If it's not, I'd like to work with people who do use it to either make it possible to send their mail from debian.org machines or from a short whitelist of machines elsewhere. If this isn't possible, we'll of course continue to offer it as a public service if it's needed. It's just that if it doesn't need to be a public facing mail domain, we all get a little less spam in our inbox, and the service becomes easier to administer. In the large scheme of things, of course, 1000 spams a day is pretty minimal. The amount of processing power that goes into turning away the other 6 mails/day and then resending the 1000 spams that do get through, though, does approach significance, and I'd like to make it simple to admin and more friendly to the final recipients. Whenever users contact me privately regarding a package, I encourage them to instead target the package email address, so that fellow maintainers of team-maintained packages receive them as well. I am not against dropping/limiting the package email addresses, just saying that in addition to the concrete amount of mail it might also be relevant to take into account the expectation of such account existing, even if used less frequently. And the convenience of telling users to simply _email_ the package, instead of explaining them how to _find_ the email address from packaging metadata. Kind regards, - Jonas P.S. I am subscribed to d-project but not d-devel, so please cc me if replying to d-devel but not to d-project. - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREDAAYFAkoXMdYACgkQn7DbMsAkQLjR7ACeNUJjfnGjvGv3EeTPZT7ODCWN UXwAoJpOGv7d2+QDi9VZMyHrsQciWHnT =sjDR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
