Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Игорь Пашев
2013/5/8 Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org: Wrong list, please bring this up instead on fhs-discuss. (If that still exists - it looks a bit stale - but anyway, debian-devel is not for FHS discussion.) I'd like to have an open discussion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/08/2013 01:54 AM, Игорь Пашев wrote: Currently /var/lib contains data for system utilities (dpkg, apt, aptitute) and for user application like databases. What about moving default location for applications to /export ? Think about modern fs like btrfs and zfs: One may want to create

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Игорь Пашев
2013/5/8 Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org: How about moving /home into /usr? I proposed exactly an opposite thing for databases :-) If do not like /usr/home, you might not like to have your data under /var/lib ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 08 mai 2013 à 11:59 +0400, Игорь Пашев a écrit : I proposed exactly an opposite thing for databases :-) If do not like /usr/home, you might not like to have your data under /var/lib ;-) The FHS has the perfect place for such data: /srv. I agree we should move the data there, but

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 03:51:33PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: How about moving /etc into /home? How about moving /home into /usr? Note that / was moved to /usr and /usr to /home just for HDD size reasons [1]. [1]: http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html -- WBR,

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Игорь Пашев
2013/5/8 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: The FHS has the perfect place for such data: /srv. I agree we should move the data there, but there is no reason to invent a new place. Yeah. /export was my typo ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Игорь Пашев
2013/5/8 Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name: On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 03:51:33PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: How about moving /etc into /home? How about moving /home into /usr? Note that / was moved to /usr and /usr to /home just for HDD size reasons [1]. [1]:

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:18:25PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: I always rm -rf /media after a fresh install, where T F did that come from. Funny you say that, given that the canonical reference document we use even provides an explanation for why it was created. If you'd said /srv, I'd sort

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-08 Thread Arno Töll
Hi, On 08.05.2013 10:11, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 08 mai 2013 à 11:59 +0400, Игорь Пашев a écrit : I proposed exactly an opposite thing for databases :-) If do not like /usr/home, you might not like to have your data under /var/lib ;-) The FHS has the perfect place for such

/export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-07 Thread Игорь Пашев
Currently /var/lib contains data for system utilities (dpkg, apt, aptitute) and for user application like databases. What about moving default location for applications to /export ? Think about modern fs like btrfs and zfs: One may want to create a snapshot of the entire system, user data

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Игорь Пашев pashev.igor at gmail.com writes: What about moving default location for applications to /export ? *NO*! /sys was already bad. /run is a catastrophe, although an understandable one. I always rm -rf /media after a fresh install, where T F did that come from. As a BSD person, seeing

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Igor Pashev] Currently /var/lib contains data for system utilities (dpkg, apt, aptitute) and for user application like databases. What about moving default location for applications to /export ? Wrong list, please bring this up instead on fhs-discuss. (If that still exists - it looks a

Re: /export (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:18:25PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Игорь Пашев pashev.igor at gmail.com writes: What about moving default location for applications to /export ? /run is a catastrophe, although an understandable one. Is there anything specific that's wrong with it? Is there