Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2013-04-27 at 10:13 +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: Dear Ben! On 27/04/13 00:46, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] However, I would expect the vast majority of installations to be on amd64, so if you always generate a 64-bit little-endian database and avoid duplicating when installing on

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-27 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Ben! On 27/04/13 00:46, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: Dear FTP Masters! On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: [...] You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The default compression level for xz reduces

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:46:44PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: [...] You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The default compression level for xz reduces

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-26 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear FTP Masters! On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: [...] You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The default compression level for xz reduces the size of the source tarball from 415 MB to 272 MB: $ ls -1s --si metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar* 823M

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: Dear FTP Masters! On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: [...] You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The default compression level for xz reduces the size of the source tarball from 415 MB to

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Olivier Sallou
On 04/23/2013 11:48 AM, Laszlo Kajan wrote: Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles! (Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.) @Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but free data [2]. I have cited your opinion [3] in this

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Olе Streicher
Olivier Sallou olivier.sal...@irisa.fr writes: Indeed, many bioinformatics programs relies on external data. But I am afraid that if we start to add some data packages, we will open an endless open door BioInformatics datasets are large, and becoming huge and numerous. This size will be an

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hi Olivier! On 24/04/13 08:20, Olivier Sallou wrote: On 04/23/2013 11:48 AM, Laszlo Kajan wrote: Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles! (Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.) @Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Didier! On 24/04/13 09:32, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit : I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution for such cases if they will

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Olivier Sallou
On 04/24/2013 04:02 PM, Laszlo Kajan wrote: Hello Didier! On 24/04/13 09:32, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit : I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really*

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Andreas! On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on big (e.g. 400MB) free data outside 'main'. In your practical case is this data say 500MB? Are

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:51 +0200 schrieb Laszlo Kajan: Hello Andreas! On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on big (e.g. 400MB) free data

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Benjamin! On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:51 +0200 schrieb Laszlo Kajan: Hello Andreas! On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: This email is to continue the discussion about free

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Russ! Thank you for getting back to me. On 23/04/13 18:48, Russ Allbery wrote: Laszlo Kajan lka...@debian.org writes: This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on big (e.g. 400MB) free data outside 'main'. These packages apparently violate policy 2.2.1

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Laszlo Kajan lka...@debian.org writes: On 23/04/13 18:48, Russ Allbery wrote: Discussing it on debian-devel seems right, but I would also draw it to ftp-master's attention, since they're the people who have to worry about archive size). We can easily move on to modifying Policy if there's a