Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-12-02 Thread Mark Pearson

Hi,

On 2020-12-02 2:35 a.m., Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 13:45 -0500, Mark Pearson wrote:

I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy.
I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking
into it - I need to go chase some others.
Sorry - really slow going :(


Hi Mark, I hope a monthly ping is ok for you. Did you have a chance to talk to
EU geos people?

Regards,

>
I didand I have some good news on the Europe portal front coming 
really soon. They are setting it up and I'm just waiting for 
confirmation of it being done. I'm hoping I can confirm next week but it 
is busy season for the folks who work on this though so I can't make 
promises.


I'm still having headaches actually getting Linux systems up in Europe, 
but I'm making (sadly slow) progress there. They tried to get the first 
systems up and hit same internal rule/configuration issues that have to 
be fixed first. That's a long process with getting approvals to change 
the rules (that was supposed to be fixed when we did the systems in the 
US but turns out was not done correctly...sigh). My hair is getting both 
pulled out and greyer.which is not a good combo. Still - there is 
forward progress there too :)


Mark



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-12-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 13:45 -0500, Mark Pearson wrote:
> I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy.
> I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking 
> into it - I need to go chase some others.
> Sorry - really slow going :(

Hi Mark, I hope a monthly ping is ok for you. Did you have a chance to talk to
EU geos people?

Regards,
- -- 
Yves-Alexis
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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-11-04 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 13:45 -0500, Mark Pearson wrote:
> I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy.
> I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking 
> into it - I need to go chase some others.
> Sorry - really slow going :(

Thanks! I'm personnaly more interested in EU/FR geo, but thanks anyway :)

Regards,
- -- 
Yves-Alexis
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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-11-04 Thread Mark Pearson

Hi,

On 04/11/2020 13:00, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 11:12 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos?


Hi Mark, I might have missed it, but did your daily poking of your collegues
gave results on the others geos? Thanks!

>
I've started chasing this directly myself, but last week was crazy busy.
I have the owner of a number of S and Central America countries looking 
into it - I need to go chase some others.

Sorry - really slow going :(

Mark



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-11-04 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Thu, 2020-09-17 at 11:12 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos?

Hi Mark, I might have missed it, but did your daily poking of your collegues
gave results on the others geos? Thanks!
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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-10-19 Thread Mark Pearson



On 19/10/2020 01:56, Mike Gabriel wrote:

Hi Mark,

On  Fr 18 Sep 2020 15:06:00 CEST, Mark Pearson wrote:


On 9/17/2020 5:12 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:


On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote:

On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not
available yet I'm afraid.


Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more?

Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the
geo teams to some extent.
The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first
oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is 
chasing

the others down so I'll check with him what the status is.


Hi Mark,

did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos?

Regards,
- -- Yves-Alexis


Sorry - no update yet. I'll keep pushing
Mark


Gentle/monthly reminder to poke the colleague(s) again(?).

Thanks+Greets,
Mike

He is getting (almost) daily nags on this one :)
Mark



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-10-19 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Mark,

On  Fr 18 Sep 2020 15:06:00 CEST, Mark Pearson wrote:


On 9/17/2020 5:12 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:


On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote:

On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not
available yet I'm afraid.


Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more?

Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the
geo teams to some extent.
The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first
oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing
the others down so I'll check with him what the status is.


Hi Mark,

did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos?

Regards,
- -- Yves-Alexis


Sorry - no update yet. I'll keep pushing
Mark


Gentle/monthly reminder to poke the colleague(s) again(?).

Thanks+Greets,
Mike
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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-18 Thread Mark Pearson

On 9/17/2020 5:12 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:


On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote:

On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not
available yet I'm afraid.


Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more?

Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the
geo teams to some extent.
The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first
oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing
the others down so I'll check with him what the status is.


Hi Mark,

did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos?

Regards,
- -- 
Yves-Alexis


Sorry - no update yet. I'll keep pushing
Mark



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote:
> On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > > We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not
> > > available yet I'm afraid.
> > 
> > Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more?
> Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the 
> geo teams to some extent.
> The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first 
> oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing 
> the others down so I'll check with him what the status is.

Hi Mark,

did you have an update from your colleague on the other geos?

Regards,
- -- 
Yves-Alexis
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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-04 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2020/09/04 11:23, Philip Rinn wrote:
>> Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone
>> who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor
>> of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely
>> (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It
>> feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO.
> 
> Well, DMs don't have debian.org email addresses.

The benefit is currently just for DDs. Maybe that could change in the
future, but that is how it is now.

For people who don't usually use their debian.org addresses, it seems
like a small issue? All they need to do is temporarily enable the
forwarder to their usual address in db.debian.org, so no big deal?

-Jonathan

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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-04 Thread Philipp Kern
On 04.09.20 11:23, Philip Rinn wrote:
>> Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone
>> who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor
>> of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely
>> (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It
>> feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO.
> 
> Well, DMs don't have debian.org email addresses.

Sure, but I'd expect that state to be temporary, no?

Kind regards
Philipp Kern



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-04 Thread Philip Rinn
> Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone
> who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor
> of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely
> (rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It
> feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO.

Well, DMs don't have debian.org email addresses.

Best
Philip



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-04 Thread Philipp Kern
On 04.09.20 03:39, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 15:18 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: 
> 
>> For DSA - I'm assuming all role addresses have members behind it with 
>> debian addresses? "Please don't register on the portal with role 
>> addresses" would seem a sensible guideline to me.
> 
> I just took a look at the aliases repo and most of them are solely
> Debian members but some have folks who are not yet Debian members and
> at least one has no Debian members on it.
> 
>> If there is a group missing that it makes sense to add we can look at 
>> that - let me know. Using the debian.org email as a filter seemed like a 
>> neat and simple solution when I discussed it with Jonathan originally.
>> I'd rather avoid having to manage lists of individual email addresses. 
>> That's a real pain and IMO will only break in the long term.
>> Open to other suggestions if what we have implemented doesn't work but 
>> it has to be balanced with the amount of effort involved.
> 
> If you are able to regularly automatically load and process a file,
> there is one containing a list of Debian Maintainers, including an
> email address that they use in their Debian work. IIRC this list is
> regularly pruned by Debian when folks stop contributing. Probably
> updating your copy of it daily would be regular enough.

Why do we need to make this 100% accurate in the first place? Everyone
who got access to a debian.org email address has been an OSS contributor
of sorts. Which leaves those who opted out of the email address entirely
(rather than not using it) - but they are free to reactivate it. It
feels like just checking for @debian.org is good enough, IMO.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern



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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2020-09-03 at 15:18 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote: 

> For DSA - I'm assuming all role addresses have members behind it with 
> debian addresses? "Please don't register on the portal with role 
> addresses" would seem a sensible guideline to me.

I just took a look at the aliases repo and most of them are solely
Debian members but some have folks who are not yet Debian members and
at least one has no Debian members on it.

> If there is a group missing that it makes sense to add we can look at 
> that - let me know. Using the debian.org email as a filter seemed like a 
> neat and simple solution when I discussed it with Jonathan originally.
> I'd rather avoid having to manage lists of individual email addresses. 
> That's a real pain and IMO will only break in the long term.
> Open to other suggestions if what we have implemented doesn't work but 
> it has to be balanced with the amount of effort involved.

If you are able to regularly automatically load and process a file,
there is one containing a list of Debian Maintainers, including an
email address that they use in their Debian work. IIRC this list is
regularly pruned by Debian when folks stop contributing. Probably
updating your copy of it daily would be regular enough.

https://ftp-master.debian.org/#debianmaintainers
https://ftp-master.debian.org/dm.txt

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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-03 Thread Mark Pearson

Hi Paul,

On 9/2/2020 9:18 PM, Paul Wise wrote:

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 1:22 PM Mark Pearson wrote:


Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank you!)
the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available:


Thanks for your generosity here!

This announcement seems suitable for inclusion on these wiki pages.
You will need to register an account in order to edit them, if you
don't have one already. Inclusion on the latter means the announcement
will eventually go out to the debian-devel-announce mailing list.

https://wiki.debian.org/MemberBenefits
https://wiki.debian.org/DeveloperNews


You should just be able to register with your debian.org email address
to get the discount on any Lenovo equipment. Do let me know if any
problems.


I note that some debian.org email addresses are guest accounts for
contributors who are not Debian members (although we do ask that they
don't use these addresses) and some are role addresses (for example
d...@debian.org corresponds to the Debian sysadmin team (DSA)) and some
of those teams may have recipients who are not yet Debian members.

I suspect we can blacklist email addresses if the need arises and if we 
see something being abused that will likely be what happens. My 
recommendation is consider your community when using the portal...


For DSA - I'm assuming all role addresses have members behind it with 
debian addresses? "Please don't register on the portal with role 
addresses" would seem a sensible guideline to me.



Does the acceptance of role addresses mean for example that DSA could
buy discounted servers from Lenovo? We have received very favourable
quotes for servers from the local Austrian and Greek Lenovo offices
and turning that into a standard discount that does not require
country-by-country conversations with the local Lenovo offices would
be very helpful.

I'm not sure to be honest - check and see how it compares and choose 
whichever saves you the most money? I don't get any say in what the 
discounts are I'm afraid. If you're talking to sales staff maybe they 
can get you a better deal as they'll have more tools at their disposal?



Many of the Debian membership benefits (link above) also apply to
Debian Maintainers (folks who are not members but can do unsupervised
uploads of particular packages) and Debian contributors in general,
has Lenovo considered including one or both of these groups in the
discount program?



If there is a group missing that it makes sense to add we can look at 
that - let me know. Using the debian.org email as a filter seemed like a 
neat and simple solution when I discussed it with Jonathan originally.
I'd rather avoid having to manage lists of individual email addresses. 
That's a real pain and IMO will only break in the long term.
Open to other suggestions if what we have implemented doesn't work but 
it has to be balanced with the amount of effort involved.


Mark




Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-02 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
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On Wed, 2020-09-02 at 15:30 -0400, Mark Pearson wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > > US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux
> > > Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca
> > 
> > I've tried registering on the US website and it seems to work fine here.
> > I'm
> > not completely sure how explicit the “rebate” is (and with the LABORDAY
> > coupon
> > currently on the “standard” website it's not easy to compare). Anyway I
> > didn't
> > investigate further because I'm from Europe so I'll wait a bit.
> > 
> I'm just curious - it doesn't let you double up on the discounts? (I 
> have no idea if it would or notbut worth a go :P)

To be fair, I did try to add that, but the /Linux website told me the coupon
was expired :)
> 
> > > We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not
> > > available yet I'm afraid.
> > 
> > Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more?
> Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the 
> geo teams to some extent.
> The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first 
> oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing 
> the others down so I'll check with him what the status is.

Ack, thanks!

> > On the X1C configuration I tried, the “Absolute” stuff is there but one
> > can't
> > change it. For the HAP the snippet is not there at all (although I think I
> > remember seeing it once)
> > 
> I've not played with that but I can find out about it. I've got a T14 
> AMD in front of me right now and it I could configure the Absolute 
> Persistence Module (enable/disable/permanently disable).

Yeah I know the end-user / administrator can disable it in the BIOS settings,
but there's apparently a way to do it on the website and I was curious about
it.

> For the ME HAP...I don't see that either. I'll see if I can find out 
> about it.

Obviously that's only on Intel platforms (AMD has the PSP processor but I'm
unsure if there's an equivalent HAP stuff). This one actually *needs* to be
set by the OEM before end of manufacturing (flashing would work on older Intel
platforms but not the more recent ones). Some details can be found here: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine#%22High_Assurance_Platform%22_mode

Regards,
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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-02 Thread Mark Pearson

Hi

On 9/2/2020 2:19 PM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:


US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux
Canada: http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca


I've tried registering on the US website and it seems to work fine here. I'm
not completely sure how explicit the “rebate” is (and with the LABORDAY coupon
currently on the “standard” website it's not easy to compare). Anyway I didn't
investigate further because I'm from Europe so I'll wait a bit.

I'm just curious - it doesn't let you double up on the discounts? (I 
have no idea if it would or notbut worth a go :P)



We're still working on getting other geographies up and running - not
available yet I'm afraid.


Any idea of the timeframe? Weeks, months, more?
Afraid I don't know but I hope it's not months...it will depend on the 
geo teams to some extent.
The US site took us a few weeks to get up but that was the first 
oneso fingers crossed the others are easier. My colleague is chasing 
the others down so I'll check with him what the status is.




We also have our first Linux platform up (X1 Carbon Gen 8 with Fedora).
There should be a number of other platforms coming soon - we're working
on those and I expect them to be out in the next few weeks. If you have
any questions on our Linux platforms please let me know.


Actually I do, although it's not entirely linked to Linux. When configuring an
Intel platform there are two choices which are not always there but would be
interesting I think:

- - Disabling of Absolute bios agent
- - Activation of the High Assurance Platform bit (HAP) in the Intel ME
configuration

On the X1C configuration I tried, the “Absolute” stuff is there but one can't
change it. For the HAP the snippet is not there at all (although I think I
remember seeing it once)

I've not played with that but I can find out about it. I've got a T14 
AMD in front of me right now and it I could configure the Absolute 
Persistence Module (enable/disable/permanently disable).
For the ME HAP...I don't see that either. I'll see if I can find out 
about it.


Mark



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-02 Thread jathan
On 02/09/2020 10:25, Mark Pearson wrote:
> On 9/2/2020 11:01 AM, jathan wrote:
>> On 02/09/2020 08:08, Mark Pearson wrote:
>>> Hi Debian developers,
>>>
>>> Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank
>>> you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available:
>>>
>>> US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada:
>>> http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca
>>>
> 
>>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for the support of Lenovo to Linux and Debian! I have
>> created my account with my debian Email address and when I try to
>> login, I obtain the following message:
>>
>> Sorry! It's not you... it's us. Please send us an email to the
>> address in the right column, and someone will get back with you
>> shortly.
>>
>> Could you help me please?
>>
> I heard the same from someone else. In their case 45 mins later a
> confirmation email from Lenovo showed up and everything worked
> 
> I'll follow up with the portal maintainer and update when I get a proper
> answer
> 
> Mark
I cant enter to my Lenovo account now. The discounts are great! If
anyone open her/his Lenovo Debian account, as Mark says, we need to wait
around 45 minutes and then everything works fine to login. Thank you
very much Mark! It is fantastic to have Lenovo with us,

Best regards
Jathan

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Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-02 Thread Mark Pearson

On 9/2/2020 11:01 AM, jathan wrote:

On 02/09/2020 08:08, Mark Pearson wrote:

Hi Debian developers,

Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank
you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available:

US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada:
http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca






Hi Mark,

Thanks a lot for the support of Lenovo to Linux and Debian! I have 
created my account with my debian Email address and when I try to

login, I obtain the following message:

Sorry! It's not you... it's us. Please send us an email to the
address in the right column, and someone will get back with you
shortly.

Could you help me please?

I heard the same from someone else. In their case 45 mins later a 
confirmation email from Lenovo showed up and everything worked


I'll follow up with the portal maintainer and update when I get a proper 
answer


Mark



Re: [External] Re: Lenovo discount portal update (and a few other things)

2020-09-02 Thread jathan
On 02/09/2020 10:25, Mark Pearson wrote:
> On 9/2/2020 11:01 AM, jathan wrote:
>> On 02/09/2020 08:08, Mark Pearson wrote:
>>> Hi Debian developers,
>>>
>>> Following on from DebConf 2020 (which I thoroughly enjoyed - thank
>>> you!) the Lenovo portal that was announced is now available:
>>>
>>> US: http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/Linux Canada:
>>> http://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/linuxca
>>>
> 
>>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for the support of Lenovo to Linux and Debian! I have
>> created my account with my debian Email address and when I try to
>> login, I obtain the following message:
>>
>> Sorry! It's not you... it's us. Please send us an email to the
>> address in the right column, and someone will get back with you
>> shortly.
>>
>> Could you help me please?
>>
> I heard the same from someone else. In their case 45 mins later a
> confirmation email from Lenovo showed up and everything worked
> 
> I'll follow up with the portal maintainer and update when I get a proper
> answer
> 
> Mark
Thank you for your help Mark!

Regards
Jathan

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