Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-18 Thread Jules Bean
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 04:10:53PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: It's almost impossible to remember all the little things that might go wrong as well, so encapsulating that knowledge in a regression test suit is definitely the way to go. In which vein, it might be helpful to have test machines

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 07:43:48PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: Oh please!! Unlike some people like you to believe, there exist no revisions other than CD revisions. There are no FTP revisions. FTP changes _much_ more than the CDs due to many security fixes. Huh? Security fixes go in

Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Ben Collins
I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken. Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot, since almost none of the boot1 files are on the image. Now I could blame this on Phil, who created the images, but that wouldn't be right, since he can't

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 06:31:04AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Well, you get the point. I don't want to place blame. I just don't want to see this shit happen again. Here's what I want to see next time (2.2 r1): Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that doesn't crash

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could blame myself, but the fact is the image was not created right (it needs to be done as either root, or under fakeroot, which requires the *entire* process be done in a single session, not multiple fakeroot incantations, which might be the cause

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, a side note, but I think an important one. Ben Collins wrote: We have to remember, vendors are burning these CD's almost as soon as we make them available. WE are costing them money when we fuck up, and it isn't thre fault because they expect these things to work when we make

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have any time at all to check things, or for Phil to double check things with you as to how things should be done

WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
: Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:11 An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that doesn't

WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
: Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:36 An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Betreff: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened Not for me Mit freundlichen Grüßen Annette Schweigardt AOK BD Heidenheim Gesundheitszentrum Daimlerstraße 6 89518

WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
: Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:41 An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Betreff: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened Not for me... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Annette Schweigardt AOK BD Heidenheim Gesundheitszentrum Daimlerstraße 6 89518

Re: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Peter Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not for me... Life is nice isn't it? (And then stop sending this Not for me-answers all the time or something bad could happend) -- Peter

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 04:10:53PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have any time at all to check things, or for Phil

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken. Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot, since almost none of the boot1 files are on the image. I'd hardly call this completely broken. I guess you

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 07:43:48PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken. Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot, since almost none of the boot1 files are

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WTF is the difference? Nothing but a naming scheme. It's still a change, either way you do it, why do you want to nitpick the mechanism? Personally, I'd favour doing something that makes it as clear as possible that it was a CD production SNAFU, and that

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On 17 Aug 2000, Philip Hands wrote: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WTF is the difference? Nothing but a naming scheme. It's still a change, either way you do it, why do you want to nitpick the mechanism? Personally, I'd favour doing something that makes it as clear as possible

Re: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread goswin . brederlow
Peter Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not for me... Life is nice isn't it? (And then stop sending this Not for me-answers all the time or something bad could happend) I would guess thats a mial loop, like an away message. MfG Goswin

Re: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 02:39:26AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not for me... Life is nice isn't it? (And then stop sending this Not for me-answers all the time or something bad could happend) I