Re: Bug#440823: ITP: kelbt -- backtracking LR parser
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:24:18PM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: Which CASCON paper? I don't think you should mention this in the description. The description is meant for a user to decide if he wants to install this package or not. You shouldn't make a user follow So after reading the description and you are still in the dark as to whether you want to install a package, should you file a bug? -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#440823: ITP: kelbt -- backtracking LR parser
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:24:18PM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: Description : backtracking LR parser Kelbt generates backtracking LALR(1) parsers. Standard LALR(1) parser If it is a parser _generator_, mention this in de short description as well. absolutely correct, will update this Which CASCON paper? I don't think you should mention this in the description. The description is meant for a user to decide if he wants to install this package or not. You shouldn't make a user follow references, that is besides the point. I also don't think that the paragraph about the proof of concept is useful. The only useful information is C++. Does Kelbt indeed output C++ code? the reference to the paper is indeed a bit weird, but i think the rest of the paragraph is ok. the information that the tool is capable of handling a complex case like this, and that the code for it is included as an example _is_ interesting. will rephrase the paragraph accordingly. cu robert -- Robert Lemmen http://www.semistable.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#440823: ITP: kelbt -- backtracking LR parser
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robert Lemmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: kelbt Version : 0.12 Upstream Author : Adrian Thurston [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.cs.queensu.ca/~thurston/kelbt/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, C++ Description : backtracking LR parser Kelbt generates backtracking LALR(1) parsers. Standard LALR(1) parser generators emit an error upon encountering a conflict in the parse tables. Kelbt forges onward, generating parsers which handle conflicts by backtracking at runtime. Kelbt is able to generate a parser for any context-free grammar and therefore implements a generalized parsing method. . Kelbt is different from other backtracking LR systems in two ways. First, it elevates backtracking to the level of semantic actions by introducing a class of actions called undo actions. Undo actions are invoked as the backtracker undoes parsing and allow the user to revert any side effects of forward semantic actions. This makes it possible to backtrack over language constructs which must modify global state in preparation for handling context dependencies. . Second, Kelbt enables a user-controlled parsing strategy which approximates that of generalized recursive-descent parsing with ordered choice. This makes it easy for the user to resolve language ambiguities by ordering the grammar productions of a non-terminal according to precedence. It is approximate in the sense that for most grammars the equivalent of an ordered choice parsing strategy is achieved. In cases where productions are parsed out of the order given, there is a simple grammar transformation which remedies the problem. See the CASCON paper for more details. . As a proof of concept, Kelbt has been used to write a partial C++ parser (included) which is composed of strictly a scanner, a name lookup stage and a grammar with standard semantic actions and semantic undo actions. this is a companion to ragel (which is already in debian) and will be a build-dependency of it in the future cu robert -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-1-amd64 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- Robert Lemmen http://www.semistable.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#440823: ITP: kelbt -- backtracking LR parser
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 05:43:15PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote: [...] Description : backtracking LR parser Kelbt generates backtracking LALR(1) parsers. Standard LALR(1) parser If it is a parser _generator_, mention this in de short description as well. generators emit an error upon encountering a conflict in the parse tables. [...] strategy is achieved. In cases where productions are parsed out of the order given, there is a simple grammar transformation which remedies the problem. See the CASCON paper for more details. . As a proof of concept, Kelbt has been used to write a partial C++ parser (included) which is composed of strictly a scanner, a name lookup stage and a grammar with standard semantic actions and semantic undo actions. Which CASCON paper? I don't think you should mention this in the description. The description is meant for a user to decide if he wants to install this package or not. You shouldn't make a user follow references, that is besides the point. I also don't think that the paragraph about the proof of concept is useful. The only useful information is C++. Does Kelbt indeed output C++ code? -- Met vriendelijke groet / with kind regards, Guus Sliepen [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
