Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-20 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org wrote: = Flat Repository Format = A flat repository does not use the {{{dists}}} hierarchy of directories, and instead places meta index and indices directly into the archive root (or some part below it) In sources.list

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: How about integrating it with the Policy's chapter 5 (thus enlarging its scope) instead of having it as a separate document ? That would help to underline when a field is used in the same way or differently as in the package control data files. The

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org writes: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 04:06:23PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: FWIW posted on the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat Thanks Michal I have now documented the Contents indices and the diffs as well, mostly (sans the exact format

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Paul Wise p...@debian.org [120519 01:39]: I would like to see the flat-style repository documented too, since some of the derivatives in the Debian derivatives census use it and I would like to lint their apt repositories. I my humble opinion the best documentation for the flat-style format

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-19 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 07:38:59AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Julian Andres Klode wrote: What's the opinion about the flat repository format, where you just have one directory with Release, Packages, Sources, and friends and no sub-directories? Should

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Michal Suchanek
Excerpts from David Kalnischkies's message of Thu May 17 18:21:59 +0200 2012: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote: Excerpts from Ian Jackson's message of Thu May 17 14:53:30 +0200 2012: Michal Suchanek writes (Re: Bug#671503: general: APT

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz writes: Excerpts from Ian Jackson's message of Thu May 17 14:53:30 +0200 2012: Michal Suchanek writes (Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented): Excerpts from Filipus Klutiero's message of Wed May 16 18:44:21 +0200 2012

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Ian Jackson
CC'ing the apt list de...@lists.debian.org. Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented): Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz writes: [ discussions regarding documenting the apt repository format ] I would suggest you

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:02:47PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: CC'ing the apt list de...@lists.debian.org. Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented): Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz writes: [ discussions

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 01:38:40PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:02:47PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: CC'ing the apt list de...@lists.debian.org. Goswin von Brederlow writes (Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 01:38:40PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: I do not think that APT is responsible for the repository format. The repository format is defined by ftpmaster, not by APT. APT has to my knowledge not defined anything new, but only implemented changes to the repository

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Michal Suchanek
FWIW posted on the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat Thanks Michal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 04:06:23PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: FWIW posted on the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat Thanks Michal I have now documented the Contents indices and the diffs as well, mostly (sans the exact format we use for the patches), and Translation

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 04:06:23PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: FWIW posted on the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat What's the opinion about the flat repository format, where you just have one directory with Release, Packages, Sources, and friends and no sub-directories? Should

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 06:45:00PM +0100, Wookey wrote: +++ Julian Andres Klode [2012-05-18 13:38 +0200]: We currently have three independent implementations of the repository format in the archive: APT, cupt, smartpm. I think reprepro is another? Of course, I was just only talking

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Wookey
+++ Julian Andres Klode [2012-05-18 13:38 +0200]: We currently have three independent implementations of the repository format in the archive: APT, cupt, smartpm. I think reprepro is another? /usr/share/doc/reprepro/manual.html contains a 'repository basics' section which includes useful

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 08:12:16PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: The formatting is not consistent but that will have to be changed for docbook anyway. Yes, and it will also be more readable then, than the current wiki version. Also would need some proof-reading. If nothing else somebody

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Michal Suchanek
Excerpts from Julian Andres Klode's message of Fri May 18 18:49:10 +0200 2012: On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 04:06:23PM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote: FWIW posted on the wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat Thanks Michal I have now documented the Contents indices and the

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Julian Andres Klode wrote: What's the opinion about the flat repository format, where you just have one directory with Release, Packages, Sources, and friends and no sub-directories? Should they be documented as well then? We would then have two kind of

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, May 18, 2012 at 06:49:10PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode a écrit : In a few months, I'd like to rework this in DocBook form, and submit it to debian-policy for inclusion into official Policy, as a sub-policy like copyright-format. Dear Julian and everybody, thank you for this

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-17 Thread Michal Suchanek
Excerpts from Filipus Klutiero's message of Wed May 16 18:44:21 +0200 2012: Could you clarify how this differs from #481129? It's 4 years later. Sorry, forgot that I filed the bug already. It's quite some time. Given there is no feedback in 4 years I guess it is futile reporting this.

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Michal Suchanek writes (Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented): Excerpts from Filipus Klutiero's message of Wed May 16 18:44:21 +0200 2012: Could you clarify how this differs from #481129? It's 4 years later. Sorry, forgot that I filed the bug already. It's

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-17 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hello, On 2012-05-17 13:48, Michal Suchanek wrote: Admittedly there is no text in social contract about using Debian-proprietary formats. And a format only defined by apt can read that is definitely Debian-proprietary there is no better term for that. I'd say it's slightly discriminatory

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-17 Thread Michal Suchanek
Excerpts from Ian Jackson's message of Thu May 17 14:53:30 +0200 2012: Michal Suchanek writes (Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented): Excerpts from Filipus Klutiero's message of Wed May 16 18:44:21 +0200 2012: Could you clarify how this differs from #481129

Re: Bug#481129: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote: Excerpts from Ian Jackson's message of Thu May 17 14:53:30 +0200 2012: Michal Suchanek writes (Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented): Excerpts from Filipus Klutiero's message

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-16 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Could you clarify how this differs from #481129? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb3d965.5030...@gmail.com

Processed: Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: reassign 671503 debian-policy Bug #671503 [general] general: APT repository format is not documented Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'debian-policy'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #671503 to the same values previously

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-05 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12836 March 1977, David Kalnischkies wrote: I would personal tend toward ftp-master to be the authority with reference implementation being dak, but they have no public mailinglist and dak isn't used by all derivatives… debian-dak@lists.d.o On 12836 March 1977, Russ Allbery wrote: I

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: I think debian-policy is the right repository for this.  I think it would make the most sense to maintain this via a looser update method than the normal Policy process and to instead just apply any update that ftp-master says is in place,

Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Michal Suchanek
Package: general Severity: important Hello, I wanted to create a repository of my own packages so that I can use the standard Debian tools to install these packages and resolve any dependencies automatically. However, there is no documentation of the format of these repositories. There are

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 04 May 2012 18:49:34 +0200 Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote: Package: general Severity: important I wanted to create a repository of my own packages so that I can use the standard Debian tools to install these packages and resolve any dependencies automatically.

Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Michal Suchanek michal.sucha...@ruk.cuni.cz wrote: This, however, does not apply the apt-ftparchive. It is supposed to create the required files fully automatically. With the provided documentation I was able to make it do exactly nothing, fully automatically.

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
David Kalnischkies kalnischk...@gmail.com writes: Completely ignoring the mail itself and just referring to the title (beside ignoring even the first word in that): repository format is not documented is a valid bug - and it should be documented for the benefit of people who write the

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Vie 04 May 2012 18:13:01 Russ Allbery escribió: [big snip] I think Russ' proposal is quite a nice solution. Kinds regards, Lisandro. -- The volume of a pizza of thickness a and radius z can be described by the following formula: pi zz a Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer