Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Sean Whitton writes ("Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version"): > Let me first say exactly what change I'd recommend: > - out-of-date-standards-version should be I: or P: instead of W: > - ancient-standards-version should remain

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Mattia Rizzolo writes ("Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version"): > Currently there are two related tags: > * https://lintian.debian.org/tags/out-of-date-standards-version.html > which is reported when an upload is done and the date of t

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Bill, On Wed, Jan 03 2018, Bill Allombert wrote: > Standards-Version is purely informational. All packages are expected > to comply with the latest policy, and respectively, when policy > changes are proposed, we are careful to check what packages are > impacted and what should be done abou

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:24:46PM +, Sean Whitton wrote: > control: severity -1 normal > > Thanks for summarising exactly when these tags are triggered, Mattia. > > Let me first say exactly what change I'd recommend: > > - out-of-date-standards-version should be I: or P: instead of W: > - a

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Mattia, Thanks for your reply. On Wed, Jan 03 2018, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: >> ISTM that requiring maintainers to check packages against the >> upgrading checklist before they can upload other improvements is an >> example of requiring prerequisite work of volunteers that is not >> needed fo

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Control: forecemerge -1 886210 Control: tag -1 pending the previous merge from Holger failed due to mismatching severities. On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:24:46PM +, Sean Whitton wrote: > Mattia and I are in significant disagreement over this and both feel > quite strongly about the topic (hence

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Sean Whitton
control: severity -1 normal Hello, Thank you for filing this bug, Holger. Mattia and I are in significant disagreement over this and both feel quite strongly about the topic (hence the severity bump -- I think this moderately important for Debian). In this e-mail I want to lay out in full detai

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 05:11:33PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > Or about versions older than N years. Already happens: https://lintian.debian.org/tags/ancient-standards-version.html It currently warns if the Policy version you refer has been released before 27 January 2016. -- regards,

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 12:16:57PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > Same here. IMO warnings about the last two policy versions should only be > > shown in pedantic mode. If a package is 3 versions behind, then this > > should be a normal lintian warning. > > Maybe warn about new minor number, b

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Holger Levsen : Same here. IMO warnings about the last two policy versions should only be shown in pedantic mode. If a package is 3 versions behind, then this should be a normal lintian warning. Maybe warn about new minor number, but not micro number?

Re: Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
Control: found -1 2.5.67 On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 08:54:48AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 05:26:35PM +, Sean Whitton wrote: > > I think that Lintian shouldn't warn about not using the latest > > Standards-Version; perhaps it should warn when you're using a really old >

Bug#886219: lintian should be less pedantic about latest policy version

2018-01-03 Thread Holger Levsen
package: lintian severity: wishlist x-debbugs-cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 05:26:35PM +, Sean Whitton wrote: > I think that Lintian shouldn't warn about not using the latest > Standards-Version; perhaps it should warn when you're using a really old > one. Same her