Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 01:53:32PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Building GTK programs without installing > systemd-sysv?"): > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 01:47:47PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > You want dbus-x11 instead of

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?"): > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 01:47:47PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > You want dbus-x11 instead of dbus-user-session then, I think. > > For this and related issues, I wonder if it w

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-15 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 20:51:36 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I discovered that using the second alternative for *conf > worked: put this into /etc/apt/preferences: > > Package: dconf-gsettings-backend > Pin: version * > Pin-Priority: -1 > > This will cause gconf-gsettings-backend to be used

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi Simon, I ran into the same problem… in a chroot. Due to some bug, systemd-sysv just did not want to install under cowbuilder for some time. I discovered that using the second alternative for *conf worked: put this into /etc/apt/preferences: Package: dconf-gsettings-backend Pin: version *

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Philipp Kern
On 8/14/2019 2:24 PM, Simon Richter wrote: > The long term question remains though -- I dimly remember that we once had > the same discussion about a library pulling in rpcbind, and that made a lot > of people very unhappy at the time. As Holger said: Then use a chroot. With policy-rc.d you can

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 02:24:26PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > The long term question remains though -- I dimly remember that we once had > the same discussion about a library pulling in rpcbind, and that made a lot > of people very unhappy at the time. There was also

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 01:47:47PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > You want dbus-x11 instead of dbus-user-session then, I think. Ah, that works, and aptitude is able to resolve that automatically (but apt gets confused). So the immediate solution works for me and I'll file a bug against apt.

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 01:47:47PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 8/14/2019 12:40 PM, Simon Richter wrote: > > I have a few users who do test builds of kicad on my server, so I'd like to > > provide the necessary build dependencies, but since a few days, the > > dependency chain > > > >

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Philipp Kern
On 8/14/2019 12:40 PM, Simon Richter wrote: > I have a few users who do test builds of kicad on my server, so I'd like to > provide the necessary build dependencies, but since a few days, the > dependency chain > > libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-dev > libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 > libgtk-3-0 >

Re: Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:40:24PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > And in the long run: would it make sense to require that packages that are > build dependencies of something can be installed without starting any > service? why not build in your favorite container? -- cheers, Holger

Building GTK programs without installing systemd-sysv?

2019-08-14 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, I have a few users who do test builds of kicad on my server, so I'd like to provide the necessary build dependencies, but since a few days, the dependency chain libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-dev libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-common