Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-31 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 09:43:16PM -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:58:23PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > > I think we (DSA) have been reluctant to add new third-party-run services > > under debian.org, and it's not clear to me if that infrastructure would > > be run by

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-28 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 08:56:55PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > This was redir.debian.org. I was very happy with it. I never understood > why we replaced it by something centralized. There were problems with it > and nobody was fixing them, but I think we have never been told exactly > what the

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-28 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi Julien On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:58:23PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > I think we (DSA) have been reluctant to add new third-party-run services > under debian.org, Just being curious: what is your definition of "third-party-run"? As example: deb.debian.org. It uses Fastly, which is shared

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:27:53 +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: >On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:25:18AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> Are the IP ranges of the Cloud Providers registered that badly that >> deb.debian.org wouldn't reliably point to the mirrors inside the >> provider's infrastructure? Or are the

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:58:23PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > I think we (DSA) have been reluctant to add new third-party-run services > under debian.org, and it's not clear to me if that infrastructure would > be run by the cloud team on behalf of debian, or if the cloud team would > control

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 26 January 2022 10:04 +01, Marc Haber: >>> Are the IP ranges of the Cloud Providers registered that badly that >>> deb.debian.org wouldn't reliably point to the mirrors inside the >>> provider's infrastructure? Or are the cloud providers' mirrors >>> differnet from what we expect from a Debian

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 09:47:49PM -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > Hello, > > The cloud team wants to make folks aware of a possible change to the cloud > images. The team plans to register a new domain, debian.cloud, for mirrors > inside of cloud provider infrastructure. For such mirrors,

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:04:47AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > >> >The cloud team wants to make folks aware of a possible change to the cloud > >> >images. The team plans to register a new domain, debian.cloud, for > >> >mirrors > >> >inside of cloud provider infrastructure. For such mirrors,

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 1/26/22 10:04, Marc Haber wrote: On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:38:00 -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:25:18AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 21:47:49 -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: The cloud team wants to make folks aware of a possible change to the cloud

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi Marc On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:25:18AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Are the IP ranges of the Cloud Providers registered that badly that > deb.debian.org wouldn't reliably point to the mirrors inside the > provider's infrastructure? Or are the cloud providers' mirrors > differnet from what we

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Ross (2022.01.26_05:47:49_+) > Our first choice would be a subzone of debian.org. But we are not in DSA, and > haven't been able to get help with this request. So in the interest of making > progress, a new domain is the simplest alternative. FWIW, DSA has the ability to host domains in

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 22:38:00 -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: >On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:25:18AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 21:47:49 -0800, Ross Vandegrift >> wrote: >> >The cloud team wants to make folks aware of a possible change to the cloud >> >images. The team plans to

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-25 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:25:18AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 21:47:49 -0800, Ross Vandegrift > wrote: > >The cloud team wants to make folks aware of a possible change to the cloud > >images. The team plans to register a new domain, debian.cloud, for mirrors > >inside of

Re: Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-25 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 21:47:49 -0800, Ross Vandegrift wrote: >The cloud team wants to make folks aware of a possible change to the cloud >images. The team plans to register a new domain, debian.cloud, for mirrors >inside of cloud provider infrastructure. For such mirrors, sources.list will >look

Cloud team plans for cloud-hosted mirrors

2022-01-25 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hello, The cloud team wants to make folks aware of a possible change to the cloud images. The team plans to register a new domain, debian.cloud, for mirrors inside of cloud provider infrastructure. For such mirrors, sources.list will look like: deb http://.debian.cloud/debian/ bullseye main