Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-16 Thread alberto fuentes
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > To add on to what Lars said, users still often use the same home directory > on multiple systems (via NFS, AFS, etc.) and expect, when running the same > application on different systems, for programs to find their configuration > files in the

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-16 Thread Thomas Koch
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 06:52:41 AM Paul Wise wrote: > Good point. I've added a section on user home directories to the UG, > pointing out the XDG spec and the libraries that support it. > > https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide#User_home_directories added a link to https://wiki.debian.org/X

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > GLib has a nice set of functions for this, see > https://developer.gnome.org/glib/stable/glib-Miscellaneous-Utility-Functions.html#g-get-user-cache-dir Thanks for the pointer and to Jon Dowland for adding a link to the page. -- b

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-13 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 12/10/13 00:52, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > >> I think that this would be more suitable for the Upstream Guide >> (https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide). The Debian Policy focuses on how to >> integrate works in Debian, so if being XDG-compliant

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I think that this would be more suitable for the Upstream Guide > (https://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide). The Debian Policy focuses on how to > integrate works in Debian, so if being XDG-compliant or not does not make a > difference, then

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Russ Allbery
debian-de...@liska.ath.cx (Olе Streicher) writes: > Lars Wirzenius writes: >> Having Debian versions of the programs differ in this from everyone >> else would create a lot of confusion, and needlessly cause everyone >> more support burden than is needed. > Isn't that the same case with the FHS?

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 09:04:57PM +0200, Olе Streicher a écrit : > > I don't mean it as a strong requirement (yet); but couldn't this be > included in the policy as recommendation and/or goal? Hi Olе, I think that this would be more suitable for the Upstream Guide (https://wiki.debian.org/Upstr

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 09:04:57PM +0200, Olе Streicher wrote: > Lars Wirzenius writes: > > Having Debian versions of the programs differ in this from everyone > > else would create a lot of confusion, and needlessly cause everyone > > more support burden than is needed. > > Isn't that the same c

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Olе Streicher
Lars Wirzenius writes: > Having Debian versions of the programs differ in this from everyone > else would create a lot of confusion, and needlessly cause everyone > more support burden than is needed. Isn't that the same case with the FHS? To bring an example here from my ongoing packaging proje

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Wookey
+++ Lars Wirzenius [2013-10-11 18:48 +0100]: > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 07:17:32PM +0200, Olе Streicher wrote: > > What are the status, the pros and cons here? Is there an attempt to get > > the XDG somehow into the Debian policy? > > There is no active Debian effort to make all our packages to con

Re: Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 07:17:32PM +0200, Olе Streicher wrote: > What are the status, the pros and cons here? Is there an attempt to get > the XDG somehow into the Debian policy? There is no active Debian effort to make all our packages to conform to the XDG directory spec. It is my understanding

Debian XDG basedir compliance

2013-10-11 Thread Olе Streicher
Hi, for one of my packages (astropy), I am currently in discussion with upstream on whether the XDG rules shoule be applied [1]. I am arguing there that for a new software, it would be better to follow this standard. The XDG basedir specification [2] basically defines where user specific configur