Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
On 11037 March 1977, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: This could be realized by patching helena[1], eg. to produce a RSS like output, so an automated parsing of PackageName and PackageVersion in NEW could be done. I will have a look into that during the weekend. Should be mostly trivial. There are already RSS feeds for NEW. -- bye Joerg Von einem Besucher auf dem LT: Die 3 Microsoft-Leute auf Ihrem Stand müssen sich vorkommen wie 3 Mönche im Puff. pgpfB7RyuZdfq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
Hi, On Sat Jun 02, 2007 at 11:18:00 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11037 March 1977, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: This could be realized by patching helena[1], eg. to produce a RSS like output, so an automated parsing of PackageName and PackageVersion in NEW could be done. I will have a look into that during the weekend. Should be mostly trivial. There are already RSS feeds for NEW. where? it is not linked from new.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:31:48 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: There are already RSS feeds for NEW. where? it is not linked from new.html I know at least: Packages entering NEW: http://people.debian.org/~filippo/NEWrss/new_in.rss Packages leaving NEW: http://people.debian.org/~filippo/NEWrss/new_out.rss gregor -- .''`. http://info.comodo.priv.at/ | gpg key ID: 0x00F3CFE4 : :' : debian: the universal operating system - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' member of https://www.vibe.at/ | how to reply: http://got.to/quote/ `-NP: Element Of Crime: Narzissen Und Kakteen signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
On Friday 01 June 2007 12:35, Ron Johnson wrote: Even though I am not #426867, how do you access the NEW queue? Google for debian new; third hit: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html You cannot access the packages themselves, but it does show which bugs are fixed. pgpQ8mG5NQ35A.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/01/07 04:59, Kari Pahula wrote: I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue already. I'm looking at you, #426867. Even though I am not #426867, how do you access the NEW queue? For appropriate values of access - http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
On 01/06/07 at 12:59 +0300, Kari Pahula wrote: I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue already. I'm looking at you, #426867. Even if I agree that this would be nice, that's unlikely to happen. When filing FTBFS bugs, one has to check several things: (A) Is the bug already reported ? (B) Has the package changed since the rebuild happened ? (C) Has the package's dependancies changed since the rebuild happened ? (D) Recursively, has the package's dependancies' dependancies changed ? The problem is that it already takes time to file those bugs, and that there are a lots of bugs to file. For example, on May 22nd, 515 packages failed to build, and 240 failures have not been analyzed yet, so that's 240 potential RC bugs (of course, some of them might have been reported already by people not using collab-qa for coordination). What would be better ? File less higher quality bugs ? I think that the average level of quality for FTBFS bugs is currently quite good... In your case, the best solution could have been to document the issue by filing a bug yourself on your package, so everyone can easily learn about the problem. It would also have saved the bug reporter some time as well ;) -- | Lucas Nussbaum | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/ | | jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: 1024D/023B3F4F | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
Hi, On Fri Jun 01, 2007 at 12:59:14 +0300, Kari Pahula wrote: I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue already. This could be realized by patching helena[1], eg. to produce a RSS like output, so an automated parsing of PackageName and PackageVersion in NEW could be done. I will have a look into that during the weekend. Should be mostly trivial. Greetings Martin [1] helena (or better, her successor) produces http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:01:07PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: The problem is that it already takes time to file those bugs, and that there are a lots of bugs to file. For example, on May 22nd, 515 packages failed to build, and 240 failures have not been analyzed yet, so that's 240 potential RC bugs (of course, some of them might have been reported already by people not using collab-qa for coordination). Personally, I would rather see erroneously filed FTBFS bugs than bugs missed getting reported. An erroneously filed FTBFS bug can be quickly closed by the maintainer of the package. Especially in the case of mass filings resulting from things like rebuilding the archive or other cases (like the bug reporter not knowing/being able to access the stuff in NEW), I think there should be a bit of leniency. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Filing FTBFS bugs and packages in NEW
On Friday 01 June 2007 05:59:14 am Kari Pahula wrote: I'd like to file a wishlist bug on people who file FTBFS bugs. It would be nice if you checked first whether there's a package pending in NEW or incoming and see if that might resolve the issue already. I'm looking at you, #426867. Thank you. Sorry about that. I usually try to search in NEW and in incoming.debian.org before filing those bugs, but I must have missed it in this case. -- Daniel Schepler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
