Hi all of you...
I've just been reading this (quite old for now) thread. What's the
status of the discussion now ? Has there been some new feeback from
other groups ?
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Yann Hi all of you... I've just been reading this (quite old for
Yann now) thread. What's the status of the discussion now ? Has
Yann there been some new feeback from other groups ?
I just discovered /usr/share/keytables/hypermap.m4.
Tom Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ctrl+PrintScreen (=SysRq) should do a kernel info thing.
Have you heard of the GGI project? One of the things they have is a
SAK (secure attention key), which is guaranteed to kill all processes
running on the current VC. The key they're using at the moment for
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Me too! (I didn't know that such a simple solution is possible :-)
So what about the other keys? I suggest that all character keys, symbols,
etc. should
DF == David Frey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:: Then I have a Print key, Scroll-Lock, and Pause. All
:: three keys don't have an effect in my X configuration--on the
:: console Scroll-Lock starts/stops terminal output, just like
:: C-S and C-Q. Is there any useful meaning for Print
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Frey) wrote on 27.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
AltGr is a special modifier: it is a kind of Hyper key if you want
(with Alt == Meta).
Ah yes, this brings up a point: *Don't* use Alt=(bit 0x80)! This won't
work for most people (anybody that needs more than ASCII).
David Frey:
PS: I was never able to reliably switch the Ctrl/CapsLock key a la Sun.
On May 28, Kai Henningsen wrote
And don't do this as a standard feature, either - CapsLock is bad enough
on its own, but switching it with Ctrl would make a keyboard just about
unusable for me. The way I
Mark == Mark Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mark I think it covers everything; would you mind floating it
Mark before a broader audience though (gnu.emacs.misc perhaps, if
Mark not also comp.protocols.x.something?)
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or should I make a digest and forward to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Christoph == Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christoph Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing
Christoph STANDARD not screw up one more. Emacs can be
Christoph adapted. Please do use
On Mon, May 26 1997 20:40 +0200 Christian Schwarz writes:
Then I have a special ALT key on my german kbd, that's label Alt Gr.
In DOS/Win95 it behaves like pressing Ctrl-Alt together. It's useful to
get some alt-alt keys (for example, I have =, 0, and, } on one
key). I think the behaviour
well, there is a half-baked idea that I've seen go by: in emacs, *if*
the user has done an stty erase ^h (ie. if the ltchars erase entry is ^h)
then treat ^h as backspace, otherwise treat it as help-char...
However, that's not going into debian emacs unless it goes into the
upstream version
Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms!
in xterm, or in rxvt? (This is one of the two or three differences
between the rxvt and xterm termcap entries...)
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Christian == Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christian Perhaps we can make an exception for stupid emacs (yes, I
Christian use it too :-)
Christian I just had a look at the article again and it seams as the
Christian author silently overrides ^H to behave like Backspace :-)
What we want is:
* `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
* `Delete' always deletes to the right.
* `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
We want this to be true for the console, for X, and even if you use
rlogin or telnet to get from one system to another.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: What we want is:
: * `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
: * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
: * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing STANDARD not screw up
Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Consider this another me too.
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Me too! (I didn't know that such a simple solution is possible :-)
So what about the other keys? I suggest that all character keys, symbols,
etc. should produce the character that's printed on the key (this
Hi,
A jihad-buster ;-(. I agree with Ian, lets do it, as Jim
said.
Manoj
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I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Count a MeToo from here :-)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What we want is:
* `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
* `Delete' always deletes to the right.
* `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
We want this to be true for the console, for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: What we want is:
: * `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
: * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
: * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as
Hi,
Christoph == Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christoph Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing
Christoph STANDARD not screw up one more. Emacs can be
Christoph adapted. Please do use existing standards for keyboard
Christoph layouts and character mapping!
I think it covers everything; would you mind floating it before a
broader audience though (gnu.emacs.misc perhaps, if not also
comp.protocols.x.something?)
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Christian == Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christian I just read the excellent article Consisten Keyboard
Christian Configuration by John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal,
Christian issue #38.
I read it too, and tried some of the configuration given there. I
found that
Hi,
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Karl The newest XEmacs, 20.2 (compiled here w/o MULE), works fine for
Karl me, in that the backspace key deletes to the left, and delete
Karl sucks characters from the right, as you would expect after using
Karl a DOS/Windows PC. I used
On 24 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Hi,
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Karl The newest XEmacs, 20.2 (compiled here w/o MULE), works fine for
Karl me, in that the backspace key deletes to the left, and delete
Karl sucks characters from the right, as you would expect
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
See, I think this is buggy. I have been using Emacs for nearly
a decade now, and nobody takes my C-H default away from me (in other
words, people have had exposure to applications like emacs on other
On May 24, Christian Schwarz wrote
I just read the excellent article Consisten Keyboard Configuration by
John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, issue #38.
One of the things I missed in that article was how to get the console and X
to use the same composite definitions.
On my system, I've made the
On Sat, May 24 1997 20:51 +0200 Christian Schwarz writes:
snip
A agree 110%.
Hi folks!
I just read the excellent article Consisten Keyboard Configuration by
John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, issue #38.
It would be nice if we could specify a keyboard configuration in the
Policy Manual.
For example, on my keyboard I can use the up- and down-arrow keys to
scroll in less (on the console and in an Xterm), but the PgUp and PgDn
keys only work in the Xterm--not on the console.
Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms!
xterms are in my experience
Hi folks!
I just read the excellent article Consisten Keyboard Configuration by
John F. Bunch in the Linux Journal, issue #38.
It would be nice if we could specify a keyboard configuration in the
Policy Manual. That is: we define how each key should behave in the Debian
system and configure all
Hi,
But can we get consensus on correct behaviour of keys? (the
classic example is the delete-backspace-Control H controversy [for
example, I personally want my backspace to delete character backwards
*all* the time, and not send C-H, and I don't really care about
delete, which would
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