]] Charles Plessy
| It kills the fun, sometimes degrades our relations with Upstream, and
| I have not yet seen a user thanking us for doing this.
I have upstreams that have thanked me repeatedly for being, more or
less, a PITA when it comes to reviewing licences and making sure that
they are
Le Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 02:55:41PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
]] Charles Plessy
| It kills the fun, sometimes degrades our relations with Upstream, and
| I have not yet seen a user thanking us for doing this.
I have upstreams that have thanked me repeatedly for being, more or
less,
On Fri,22.Jan.10, 10:11:45, Ben Finney wrote:
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
sometimes degrades our relations with Upstream, and I have not yet
seen a user thanking us for doing this.
I've often expressly, and in public, thanked the specific people who put
forth efforts to
Le Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 06:14:15PM -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
reading your message made me worry that the ftp team were moving the
line for archive acceptance without discussion, when reading the bug log
shows that they're simply trying to determine on which side of the existing
line
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:38:42AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Le Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 06:14:15PM -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
reading your message made me worry that the ftp team were moving the
line for archive acceptance without discussion, when reading the bug log
shows that
Le Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:43:37AM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
It depends on the precise nature of the data. It is quite easy to
produce Rdata files which are not the prefered form for modification.
For example, the following temp.Rdata would not be the prefered form
for modification:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Charles Plessy wrote:
It is technically true, but I think that we are drifting. To my
knowledge, there is no such .Rdata file in R packages.
I haven't checked the archive exhaustively, so I don't know. It's
certainly possible to generate, though.
The current subject of
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
Once again, I would like to remind how disproportionate is the time
that we have to spend for this kind of issues (.Rdata files, PDF
files, documenting copyrights of source files we do not use,
repackaging to remove windows executables, …) in order to
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
I've often expressly, and in public, thanked the specific people who put
forth efforts to ensure free software in the Debian operating system. I
encourage anyone else to do this too; it's a good way to increase the
Le Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:10:25AM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
That may be what you're discussing, but I'm talking about why it's
unreasonable to expect the ftpmasters to know what a relatively
specialized package's on-disk data format looks like, and in which
cases it is a non-lossy
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:07:29AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
This is also what I rant about. They do not know and asked, that is good. I
spent the time to provide detailed answers and they are ignored, that's bad.
Before the rejection there was no issue about the .Rdata files, and now they
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:56:00AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
an intermediate format
(be it text, or binary like .odt or .xls) and require the addition of
I can't speak for the Debian ftpmaster team, but I would think the usual
guideline applies: We should seek the preferred form of the work
Charles Plessy a écrit :
Dear all,
I would like to ask on this list a question I asked to the FTP team last
December, and for which I have not received answer yet.
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written, modified and
exported using free software acceptable for
2010/1/20 Jean-Christophe Dubacq jcduba...@free.fr:
Charles Plessy a écrit :
Dear all,
I would like to ask on this list a question I asked to the FTP team last
December, and for which I have not received answer yet.
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written, modified and
Le Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 09:54:44AM +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit :
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:56:00AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
an intermediate format
(be it text, or binary like .odt or .xls) and require the addition of
I can't speak for the Debian ftpmaster team, but I would think the
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:07:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Perhaps it would be a reasonable compromise if README.Source would
mention a short command line which converts the data into text form?
this time, I disagree with you: all the above is a lot of work that I am not
willing to
Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 11:22 +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:07:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
this time, I disagree with you: all the above is a lot of work that I am not
willing to do. A user of the R software is able to do this conversion by
himself, so I
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:02:48PM +0100, Manuel Prinz wrote:
Well, my compromise suggestion was intended to be a fallback if
ftpmaster insists on the rejection.
I do not expect them to, as they have been very open to reasonable
arguments in the past. (At least that is my experience.)
I
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote:
Adding HOWTOs
to README.Source is IMHO not worth the overhead it produces on the
maintainer's side. Every R user knows (well, should know) how to deal
with those files.
Yes, but you can not assume that ftpmaster is an R
Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 15:42 +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille:
Yes, but you can not assume that ftpmaster is an R *user*
Of course I can't but I do not see why ftpmasters should care how to
extract data from these files. The only relevant information to them is
that the data is the preferred
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
Charles Plessy a écrit :
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written,
modified and exported using free software acceptable for Debian,
or shall we contact the upstream author to check if he used an
intermediate format (be
Manuel Prinz man...@debian.org writes:
Speaking as an R user, Rdata is definitely the preferred form of
modification. You load it into R, edit it, save it, done.
So +1 for preferred form of modification.
Specifically, “preferred form of the work for making modifications to
it”.
I'm glad
Dear all,
I would like to ask on this list a question I asked to the FTP team last
December, and for which I have not received answer yet.
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written, modified and
exported using free software acceptable for Debian, or shall we contact the
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
Is tabular data in a binary format that can be read, written, modified
and exported using free software acceptable for Debian, or shall we
contact the upstream author to check if he used an intermediate format
(be it text, or binary like .odt or .xls)
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