Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 29 nov 12, 11:35:44, Ivan Shmakov wrote: What are the estimates? And wouldn't it be better to use some kind of a specialized search engine if searching is deemed “crucial”? I guess that it may render the difference between the formats somewhat irrelevant.

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-11-29 01:28:37 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial for some people: - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use small file systems block sizes... This is a problem with the file system,

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 15:20 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-11-29 01:28:37 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial for some people: - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use small file

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:30:47PM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Do these tools (mairix, notmuch, etc.) also help with real full text search? I just though they'd index some stuff. I can't speak for mairix, etc., but notmuch can handle full text search. To quote from

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-11-29 15:30:47 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 15:20 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Now, I would say that in general, the wasted space is small compared to large attachments. And if you have only text and care about disk space, you should consider a

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:20:34PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-11-29 01:28:37 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial for some people: - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use small

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 04:16:25PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: *cough* btrfs -ocompress=lzo. Small files are packed inline in metadata blocks, and you get compression you wanted. It's nice to see more features from '93 Windows NT implemented for Linux at last. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-11-29 16:16:25 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: *cough* btrfs -ocompress=lzo. Small files are packed inline in metadata blocks, and you get compression you wanted. Using lzo is faster than no compression for most loads, adding negligible cost for incompressible data (especially if not all

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 04:32:33PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-11-29 16:16:25 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: *cough* btrfs -ocompress=lzo. Small files are packed inline in metadata blocks, and you get compression you wanted. Using lzo is faster than no compression for most loads,

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 05:52:06PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: Outside of dpkg, sqlite in non-WAL mode, other databases and virtualbox/ qemu, btrfs is pretty fast. That may be true, but it glosses over how awful performance is on those workloads on btrfs. A single Berkeley DB transaction can

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-28 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 14:32 +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: # With the advent and now widespread adoption of the superior Maildir # format over the past several years, the entire mbox family of # mailbox formats is gradually becoming irrelevant, and of only # historical interest. Just

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-28 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net writes: […] But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial for some people: - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use small file systems block sizes... Only as long as static mbox

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-28 Thread jidanni
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Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-27 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: […] Quoting from that page: # With the advent and now widespread adoption of the superior Maildir # format over the past several years, the entire mbox family of # mailbox formats is gradually becoming irrelevant, and of only # historical