Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-30 Thread Paul Wise
On 7/30/07, Filippo Giunchedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to use wdiff to diff package informations? This comes handy > when comparing dependencies for example. You are looking for the debdiff program. Feed it the .debs or .changes. There is also interdiff for the .diff.gz -- by

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-30 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:22:52AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > Full build logs are available at > > http://people.debian.org/~sesse/enriched-chroot/ -- look at the bottom to > > find the differences. Note that these

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 10:22:52AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >kptc (U) >phaseshift (U) >qsstv (U) >ucblogo >verilog The first 4 of these are all extra dependencies on libdnet, which all come from AC_PATH_XTRA in /usr/share/autoconf/

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 17:47 schrieb Russ Allbery: >> So in addition to having a --with-krb5 flag specifying the paths to the >> libraries, I also need to add a --without-* flag for every Kerberos >> implementation that I support which disables probin

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 20/07/07 at 10:22 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > Full build logs are available at > > http://people.debian.org/~sesse/enriched-chroot/ -- look at the bottom to > > find the differences. Note that these builds were ma

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 06:50:03PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > Could it be, that you are now filtering to strict? I could swear, that > when I looked at the list yesterday I saw fillets-ng which had a new lib > according to the log... It seems fillets-ng was never completely built in the se

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 17:47 schrieb Russ Allbery: > So in addition to having a --with-krb5 flag specifying the paths to the > libraries, I also need to add a --without-* flag for every Kerberos > implementation that I support which disables probing for that > implementation? That's kind of lame,

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Steinar H. Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070720 10:22]: [..] > Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >ht Could it be, that you are now filtering to strict? I could swear, that when I looked at the list yesterday I saw fillets-ng which had a new lib according to the log... You still

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I don't know of any Kerberos software, among dozens of packages, that >> works this way. This simply isn't how multiple Kerberos >> implementations have ever been handled; they all just check for Heimda

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ideally everything should use libgssapi2 (or some other mechglue > implementation) and nothing should build directly aginst the > Kerberos-specific GSSAPI implementations. Your statement is true for software that really doesn't care what GSS-API mechanis

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:02:39AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Now, I'm willing to lead the way for Kerberos packages going forward, I > guess, if I can figure out a good way to do that, but I don't know how > that configure logic would even work or what those --with flags would look > like. The

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Michael Biebl
Steinar H. Gunderson schrieb: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:31:57AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>knetworkmanager >>>kpowersave >> These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the >> build fails completely. > > Define "fails compl

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Friday 20 July 2007 00:31, Michael Biebl wrote: > These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the > build fails completely. > unsermake though is scheduled/requested to be removed [1]. > So please, don't file bugs for these two packages or better, wait until > unsermake ha

Re: [updated] Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > Full build logs are available at > http://people.debian.org/~sesse/enriched-chroot/ -- look at the bottom to > find the differences. Note that these builds were made some time ago, so they > might not be 100% up-to-date -- I wi

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:31:57AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>knetworkmanager >>kpowersave > These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the > build fails completely. Define "fails completely". The build creates a .deb, it just

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> If the libraries have different names then there should be >> --with/--without switches possible for configure. > > (I'm also upstream for several of these packages.) > > I don't know of any Kerberos s

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 06:37:55PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Didn't mean to sound accusatory - more surprised. It was strange that > one package is commonly affected and others that also changed versions > were not. Maybe something to do with pattern matching failing when a > version includes

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Michael Biebl schrieb: > Steinar H. Gunderson schrieb: > >> Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>knetworkmanager >>kpowersave > > These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the > build fails completely. > unsermake though is scheduled/requested to be removed [1]. >

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Steinar H. Gunderson schrieb: > Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >knetworkmanager >kpowersave These two are affected because of unsermake being installed and so the build fails completely. unsermake though is scheduled/requested to be removed [1]. So please, don't file bugs for these two

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 06:37:55PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Didn't mean to sound accusatory - more surprised. It was strange that > one package is commonly affected and others that also changed versions > were not. Maybe something to do with pattern matching failing when a > version includes d

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the libraries have different names then there should be > --with/--without switches possible for configure. (I'm also upstream for several of these packages.) I don't know of any Kerberos software, among dozens of packages, that works this wa

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:53:50 +0200 "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:09:49AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > As other have noted, the logs are in error. I've checked the log for > > deb-gview in meld and the only difference in the two Depends line > > i

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>sident > > Hm. I don't know best to fix this. The problem is that there's now a > libgssapi2 package which provides a generic GSSAPI layer but no actual > imp

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:09:49AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > As other have noted, the logs are in error. I've checked the log for > deb-gview in meld and the only difference in the two Depends line is: > zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1) > zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) > > That is NOT a bug!!! Ouch. It seem

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:09:49 +0100 Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:13:26 +0200 > "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In a few days, I'll start filing bugs against packages that build > > unpredictably when extra build-dependencies are present.

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:13:26 +0200 "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a few days, I'll start filing bugs against packages that build > unpredictably when extra build-dependencies are present. (More > precisely, packages where the dependency or file list differ between > a clean

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-18 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 02:13:26AM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > Michael Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >kbibtex Maybe I did not get the point, but to me the diff in the dependencies just reflects the time between the two compared builds: === START OF kbibtex_0.1.5-5_amd64.deb INFORMA

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-18 Thread Russ Allbery
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >sident Hm. I don't know best to fix this. The problem is that there's now a libgssapi2 package which provides a generic GSSAPI layer but no actual implementation. S/Ident supports building against any GS

Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-18 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
(I already wrote this mail once, but have no idea where it went. Apologies if it comes out twice.) In a few days, I'll start filing bugs against packages that build unpredictably when extra build-dependencies are present. (More precisely, packages where the dependency or file list differ between a