NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 à 13:35 +0100, Svante Signell a écrit : Can the Network Manager be controlled/started/configured in console mode when X is not running? If the answer to the above questions is yes, maybe that setting (making Network Manager work also without X) would be the default!

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 13:43 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 à 13:35 +0100, Svante Signell a écrit : Can the Network Manager be controlled/started/configured in console mode when X is not running? If the answer to the above questions is yes, maybe that setting

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
The answer is yes to the three questions; for controlling it’s a bit complicated with the existing CLI tools, but it is very easy to configure connections with ini-like configuration files and start them without X. but wicd has front-ends for curses, cli, gnome, kde -- Salvo Tomaselli

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 23 mars 2012 à 14:16 +0100, Svante Signell a écrit : Regarding configuration of different tools, clicking here and there is becoming more like the M$ world. If any kind of GUI makes you think of Microsoft, there’s not much we can do for you. There you never know where the

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 16:23 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Same problem seems to apply to gconf and its successor(s). Ah yes of course. Because gconftool(1) and gsettings(1) never worked at all. I have tried gconftool before: gconftool Run 'gconftool --help' to see a full list of

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2012-03-23, Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com wrote: The man pages are not very informative either. lol whut? You're arguing for CLI tools and then fail to read our all favourite documentation source? $ gconftool --all-dirs / /system /desktop /schemas /apps Go figure. From

Re: NM without X

2012-03-23 Thread Jon Dowland
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Re: NM without X (general: users vs developers)

2012-03-23 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 22:29 +, Jon Dowland wrote: This is completely off-topic for -devel. Please take it to debian-user if you want to continue. No it is not, this is as important as the systemd/upstart/sysvint\ issue, now being discussed on Debian devel. The general question is: How much

Re: NM without X (general: users vs developers)

2012-03-23 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 22:29 +, Jon Dowland wrote: This is completely off-topic for -devel. Please take it to debian-user if you want to continue. No it is not, this is as important as the