Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Unsubscribe me please On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 5:29 AM Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Felix, Hideki, Jonathan > > You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election > > In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of > Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically > and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other > problems in Debian. > > Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated > with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that > are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers > and interns, past and present. > > This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from > the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No > subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb > misused this position. > > Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in > disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. > > The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that > overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles > amounts to harassment[3]. > > As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than > stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born > out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? > > Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? > > Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? > > Regards, > > Daniel > > 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html > 2. > > https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html > 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/ >
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Hi, First, if there's a culture problem in the project or not, sending messages to people they do not want to receive is not good. Of course you have your opinion, but your such behavior is not acceptable at any communities including outside of Debian. Please stop it. Before talking, you should get counseling for a while since it seems that you have some cognitive troubles now. You'd be better to hear about your opinion and current your mind status from professional 3rd parties, not Debian. (If they say you're very healthy and good, then that's good. Don't you think so?) Without that, we cannot make a constructive conversation. As I said in my platform, "Be calm, stay cool, stay safe" - Hope you stay "cool" a bit with help from professionals, and you would to be able to a "contributor" to floss again. Life is short - to waste our time for fighting. Let's make more values for users. -- Hideki Yamane
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Daniel Pocock dixit: [ nōnsense ] For all those who also got this eMail despite not being directly subscribed to d-devel, apparently, “Software Freedom Institute SA” is Pocock (didn’t someone ask for Init7 to do something about him?) and blocking 195.8.117.0/24 and 2001:67c:1388::/48 in your firewall before your mailserver may be prudent. bye, //mirabilos -- I believe no one can invent an algorithm. One just happens to hit upon it when God enlightens him. Or only God invents algorithms, we merely copy them. If you don't believe in God, just consider God as Nature if you won't deny existence. -- Coywolf Qi Hunt
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Seriously don't know why I'm on this list, I run OpenCV and we're just focused on finding other places in Europe for our Russians and Ukrainians to work. People fight (as we see, there and here) and people maximally accuse -- one doesn't just have a different opinion or lack cultural fit, one embodies the spirt of Satan. And... some people are indeed evil. I don't know what the case is here -- but I like and use Debian. Wish you efficiency and success in sorting this out in a minimally contentious way. Think long term -- we have people who were on a short vacation and are probably never returning home. On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 10:26 AM Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Felix, Hideki, Jonathan, > > The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer > for yourself > > Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing > leader is an abuse of the role of DPL. It is even worse because he is a > candidate. You each have the right to answer for yourself. > > Jonathan is from South Africa. His response admits that he has brought > Apartheid tactics to Debian. Banning people is straight out of the > Apartheid playbook, that is fact: > > https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid > > Regards, > > Daniel > > > On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote: > > Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from > > the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are > > not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists, > > other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly > > not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our > > project members and volunteers. > > > > For anyone else, our public statement remains at: > > > > https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027 > > > > -Jonathan > > > > On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> > >> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan > >> > >> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election > >> > >> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of > >> Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically > >> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other > >> problems in Debian. > >> > >> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated > >> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that > >> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers > >> and interns, past and present. > >> > >> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from > >> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No > >> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb > >> misused this position. > >> > >> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in > >> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. > >> > >> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that > >> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles > >> amounts to harassment[3]. > >> > >> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than > >> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born > >> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? > >> > >> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? > >> > >> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Daniel > >> > >> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html > >> 2. > >> > https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html > >> > >> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/ > > > > -- > Debian Developer > https://danielpocock.com >
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
I have clicked unsubscribe many times. Daniel, you are a deeply disturbed human being. Please stop sending me emails. I hope you find the help you need. Skickat från min iPhone > 19 mars 2022 kl. 18:28 skrev Daniel Pocock : > > > Felix, Hideki, Jonathan, > > The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer > for yourself > > Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing > leader is an abuse of the role of DPL. It is even worse because he is a > candidate. You each have the right to answer for yourself. > > Jonathan is from South Africa. His response admits that he has brought > Apartheid tactics to Debian. Banning people is straight out of the > Apartheid playbook, that is fact: > > https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid > > Regards, > > Daniel > > >> On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote: >> Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from >> the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are >> not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists, >> other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly >> not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our >> project members and volunteers. >> >> For anyone else, our public statement remains at: >> >> https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027 >> >> -Jonathan >> >>> On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> >>> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan >>> >>> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election >>> >>> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of >>> Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically >>> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other >>> problems in Debian. >>> >>> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated >>> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that >>> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers >>> and interns, past and present. >>> >>> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from >>> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No >>> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb >>> misused this position. >>> >>> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in >>> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. >>> >>> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that >>> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles >>> amounts to harassment[3]. >>> >>> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than >>> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born >>> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? >>> >>> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? >>> >>> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html >>> 2. >>> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html >>> >>> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/ >> > > -- > Debian Developer > https://danielpocock.com
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Daniel, I have no idea why you continue to send emails to me but you will take me off this list, you sexual harasser. I'm tired of your harassment of everyone in every FOSS community. Eric On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 4:28 AM Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Felix, Hideki, Jonathan > > You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election > > In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of > Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically > and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other > problems in Debian. > > Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated > with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that > are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers > and interns, past and present. > > This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from > the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No > subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb > misused this position. > > Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in > disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. > > The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that > overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles > amounts to harassment[3]. > > As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than > stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born > out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? > > Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? > > Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? > > Regards, > > Daniel > > 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html > 2. > > https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html > 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/ > -- Eric Schultz, Developer and FOSS Advocate wwahammy.com e...@wwahammy.com @wwahammy Pronouns: He/his/him
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:04:23PM +0100, Dominik George wrote: > I ask to finally ban Pocock from all Debian lists (and other > communication channels). Daniel Pocock has for a long time been banned from all Debian lists and communication channels: he is "[..] banned from participating in the Debian community in any form, including through technical contributions, participating in online spaces, or attending conferences and/or events. He has no right or standing to represent Debian in any capacity, or to represent himself as a Debian Developer or member of the Debian community." [1] The email you received was not sent using Debian lists: if you look at Received headers, you will notice that the list headers were forged, and recipient were spammed directly from Pocock's mail server, as part of his campaign to harass our community, along with many other communities from which he has also been banned. [1] https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027 Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/634F4BD1E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Hi, I am not subscribed to any Debian lists, I do not do Debian development, and I have zero context on any of this. The fact that you're sending this email to people not on the list in a way that's not obvious seems rather suspect and does not appear to be in good faith. Please take your drama elsewhere. Thanks, -Manish On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 2:29 AM Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Felix, Hideki, Jonathan > > You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election > > In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of > Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically > and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other > problems in Debian. > > Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated > with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that > are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers > and interns, past and present. > > This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from > the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No > subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb > misused this position. > > Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in > disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. > > The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that > overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles > amounts to harassment[3]. > > As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than > stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born > out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? > > Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? > > Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? > > Regards, > > Daniel > > 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html > 2. > > https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html > 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/ >
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Hi Dominik On 2022/03/19 20:04, Dominik George wrote: I ask to finally ban Pocock from all Debian lists (and other communication channels). The last statement here is upright racist, and although there has been more than enough reason to get rid of him, this must be the last thing he ever did within the realms of Debian. Please do not tolerate this person any longer. I don't think you got that original mail from the list, it's Daniel sending mails to a large amount of people and forging some headers to make it look like it's coming from debian-devel, and then when people reply-to, they inadvertently send the content to debian-devel themselves. He's already banned from all the Debian lists, this is just a new way he's discovered of being abusive. -Jonathan
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Speaking only for myself - let's keep drama compartmentalized and not bring Debian's into GSoC. Don't take me wrong, I love Debian, but this doesn't help anybody. Carlos On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 10:26 Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Felix, Hideki, Jonathan, > > The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer > for yourself > > Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing > leader is an abuse of the role of DPL. It is even worse because he is a > candidate. You each have the right to answer for yourself. > > Jonathan is from South Africa. His response admits that he has brought > Apartheid tactics to Debian. Banning people is straight out of the > Apartheid playbook, that is fact: > > https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid > > Regards, > > Daniel > > > On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote: > > Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from > > the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are > > not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists, > > other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly > > not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our > > project members and volunteers. > > > > For anyone else, our public statement remains at: > > > > https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027 > > > > -Jonathan > > > > On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> > >> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan > >> > >> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election > >> > >> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of > >> Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically > >> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other > >> problems in Debian. > >> > >> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated > >> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that > >> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers > >> and interns, past and present. > >> > >> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from > >> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No > >> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb > >> misused this position. > >> > >> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in > >> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. > >> > >> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that > >> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles > >> amounts to harassment[3]. > >> > >> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than > >> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born > >> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? > >> > >> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? > >> > >> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Daniel > >> > >> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html > >> 2. > >> > https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html > >> > >> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/ > > > > -- > Debian Developer > https://danielpocock.com >
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Daniel, please refrain from sending any further email to mar...@fsfe.org Thank you
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Felix, Hideki, Jonathan, The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer for yourself Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing leader is an abuse of the role of DPL. It is even worse because he is a candidate. You each have the right to answer for yourself. Jonathan is from South Africa. His response admits that he has brought Apartheid tactics to Debian. Banning people is straight out of the Apartheid playbook, that is fact: https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid Regards, Daniel On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from > the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are > not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists, > other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly > not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our > project members and volunteers. > > For anyone else, our public statement remains at: > > https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027 > > -Jonathan > > On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> >> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan >> >> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election >> >> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of >> Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically >> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other >> problems in Debian. >> >> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated >> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that >> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers >> and interns, past and present. >> >> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from >> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No >> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb >> misused this position. >> >> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in >> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. >> >> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that >> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles >> amounts to harassment[3]. >> >> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than >> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born >> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? >> >> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? >> >> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? >> >> Regards, >> >> Daniel >> >> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html >> 2. >> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html >> >> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/ > -- Debian Developer https://danielpocock.com
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Hi Everyone On 2022/03/19 12:36, Jonathan Carter wrote: ... Apparently I missed some header abuse in the original mail (used to work around being banned from this list and mislead recipients to believing that it arrived via the list). So, yes I fell for it, sorry for bringing some of that noise to the list, and be on the lookout for similar attacks. thanks, -Jonathan
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists, other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our project members and volunteers. For anyone else, our public statement remains at: https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027 -Jonathan On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote: Felix, Hideki, Jonathan You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other problems in Debian. Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers and interns, past and present. This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb misused this position. Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles amounts to harassment[3]. As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? Regards, Daniel 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html 2. https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? I'm not a leader, but I hope these tragedies end على 3/19/2022 2:28 AM، كتب Daniel Pocock: Felix, Hideki, Jonathan You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other problems in Debian. Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers and interns, past and present. This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb misused this position. Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles amounts to harassment[3]. As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? Regards, Daniel 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html 2. https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas
Felix, Hideki, Jonathan You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of Code internships. My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other problems in Debian. Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers and interns, past and present. This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position. No subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb misused this position. Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian. The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles amounts to harassment[3]. As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born out of the leadership post you hope to occupy? Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people? Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian? Regards, Daniel 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html 2. https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/