Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-20 Thread Esteban Enrique
Unsubscribe me please

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 5:29 AM Daniel Pocock  wrote:

>
> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
>
> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
>
> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
> problems in Debian.
>
> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
> and interns, past and present.
>
> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
> misused this position.
>
> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
>
> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
> amounts to harassment[3].
>
> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
>
> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
>
> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
> 2.
>
> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
>


Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-20 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi,

 First, if there's a culture problem in the project or not, sending messages
 to people they do not want to receive is not good. Of course you have your
 opinion, but your such behavior is not acceptable at any communities including
 outside of Debian. Please stop it.


 Before talking, you should get counseling for a while since it seems that
 you have some cognitive troubles now. You'd be better to hear about your
 opinion and current your mind status from professional 3rd parties, not Debian.
 (If they say you're very healthy and good, then that's good. Don't you think 
so?)

 Without that, we cannot make a constructive conversation.
 
 As I said in my platform, "Be calm, stay cool, stay safe" - Hope you stay 
"cool"
 a bit with help from professionals, and you would to be able to a "contributor"
 to floss again.


 Life is short - to waste our time for fighting. Let's make more values for 
users.


-- 
Hideki Yamane 



Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Daniel Pocock dixit:
[ nōnsense ]

For all those who also got this eMail despite not being directly
subscribed to d-devel, apparently, “Software Freedom Institute SA”
is Pocock (didn’t someone ask for Init7 to do something about him?)
and blocking 195.8.117.0/24 and 2001:67c:1388::/48 in your firewall
before your mailserver may be prudent.

bye,
//mirabilos
-- 
I believe no one can invent an algorithm. One just happens to hit upon it
when God enlightens him. Or only God invents algorithms, we merely copy them.
If you don't believe in God, just consider God as Nature if you won't deny
existence.  -- Coywolf Qi Hunt



Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Gary Bradski
Seriously don't know why I'm on this list, I run OpenCV and we're just
focused on finding other places in Europe for our Russians and Ukrainians
to work. People fight (as we see, there and here) and people maximally
accuse -- one doesn't just have a different opinion or lack cultural fit,
one embodies the spirt of Satan. And... some people are indeed evil. I
don't know what the case is here -- but I like and use Debian. Wish you
efficiency and success in sorting this out in a minimally contentious way.
Think long term -- we have people who were on a short vacation and are
probably never returning home.

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 10:26 AM Daniel Pocock  wrote:

>
> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan,
>
> The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer
> for yourself
>
> Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing
> leader is an abuse of the role of DPL.  It is even worse because he is a
> candidate.  You each have the right to answer for yourself.
>
> Jonathan is from South Africa.  His response admits that he has brought
> Apartheid tactics to Debian.  Banning people is straight out of the
> Apartheid playbook, that is fact:
>
> https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> > Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from
> > the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are
> > not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists,
> > other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly
> > not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our
> > project members and volunteers.
> >
> > For anyone else, our public statement remains at:
> >
> > https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027
> >
> > -Jonathan
> >
> > On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >>
> >> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
> >>
> >> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
> >>
> >> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
> >> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
> >> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
> >> problems in Debian.
> >>
> >> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
> >> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
> >> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
> >> and interns, past and present.
> >>
> >> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
> >> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
> >> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
> >> misused this position.
> >>
> >> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
> >> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
> >>
> >> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
> >> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
> >> amounts to harassment[3].
> >>
> >> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
> >> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
> >> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
> >>
> >> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
> >>
> >> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
> >> 2.
> >>
> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
> >>
> >> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
> >
>
> --
> Debian Developer
> https://danielpocock.com
>


Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Steven R. Baker
I have clicked unsubscribe many times. 

Daniel, you are a deeply disturbed human being. Please stop sending me emails.

I hope you find the help you need.

Skickat från min iPhone

> 19 mars 2022 kl. 18:28 skrev Daniel Pocock :
> 
> 
> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan,
> 
> The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer
> for yourself
> 
> Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing
> leader is an abuse of the role of DPL.  It is even worse because he is a
> candidate.  You each have the right to answer for yourself.
> 
> Jonathan is from South Africa.  His response admits that he has brought
> Apartheid tactics to Debian.  Banning people is straight out of the
> Apartheid playbook, that is fact:
> 
> https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
>> On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>> Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from
>> the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are
>> not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists,
>> other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly
>> not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our
>> project members and volunteers.
>> 
>> For anyone else, our public statement remains at:
>> 
>> https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027
>> 
>> -Jonathan
>> 
>>> On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>> 
>>> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
>>> 
>>> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
>>> 
>>> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
>>> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
>>> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
>>> problems in Debian.
>>> 
>>> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
>>> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
>>> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
>>> and interns, past and present.
>>> 
>>> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
>>> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
>>> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
>>> misused this position.
>>> 
>>> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
>>> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
>>> 
>>> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
>>> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
>>> amounts to harassment[3].
>>> 
>>> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
>>> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
>>> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
>>> 
>>> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
>>> 
>>> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
>>> 2.
>>> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
>>> 
>>> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Debian Developer
> https://danielpocock.com



Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Eric Schultz
Daniel,

I have no idea why you continue to send emails to me but you will take me
off this list, you sexual harasser. I'm tired of your harassment of
everyone in every FOSS community.

Eric

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 4:28 AM Daniel Pocock  wrote:

>
> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
>
> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
>
> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
> problems in Debian.
>
> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
> and interns, past and present.
>
> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
> misused this position.
>
> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
>
> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
> amounts to harassment[3].
>
> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
>
> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
>
> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
> 2.
>
> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
>


-- 
Eric Schultz, Developer and FOSS Advocate
wwahammy.com
e...@wwahammy.com
@wwahammy
Pronouns: He/his/him


Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 07:04:23PM +0100, Dominik George wrote:

> I ask to finally ban Pocock from all Debian lists (and other
> communication channels).

Daniel Pocock has for a long time been banned from all Debian lists and
communication channels: he is "[..] banned from participating in the
Debian community in any form, including through technical contributions,
participating in online spaces, or attending conferences and/or events.
He has no right or standing to represent Debian in any capacity, or to
represent himself as a Debian Developer or member of the Debian
community." [1]

The email you received was not sent using Debian lists: if you look at
Received headers, you will notice that the list headers were forged, and
recipient were spammed directly from Pocock's mail server, as part of
his campaign to harass our community, along with many other communities
from which he has also been banned.


[1] https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027

Enrico

-- 
GPG key: 4096R/634F4BD1E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini 



Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Manish Goregaokar
Hi,

I am not subscribed to any Debian lists, I do not do Debian development,
and I have zero context on any of this. The fact that you're sending this
email to people not on the list in a way that's not obvious seems rather
suspect and does not appear to be in good faith.

Please take your drama elsewhere.

Thanks,
-Manish


On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 2:29 AM Daniel Pocock  wrote:

>
> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
>
> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
>
> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
> problems in Debian.
>
> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
> and interns, past and present.
>
> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
> misused this position.
>
> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
>
> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
> amounts to harassment[3].
>
> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
>
> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
>
> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
> 2.
>
> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
>


Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Jonathan Carter

Hi Dominik

On 2022/03/19 20:04, Dominik George wrote:

I ask to finally ban Pocock from all Debian lists (and other communication 
channels).

The last statement here is upright racist, and although there has been more 
than enough reason to get rid of him, this must be the last thing he ever did 
within the realms of Debian.

Please do not tolerate this person any longer.


I don't think you got that original mail from the list, it's Daniel 
sending mails to a large amount of people and forging some headers to 
make it look like it's coming from debian-devel, and then when people 
reply-to, they inadvertently send the content to debian-devel themselves.


He's already banned from all the Debian lists, this is just a new way 
he's discovered of being abusive.


-Jonathan



Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Carlos Fernandez
Speaking only for myself - let's keep drama compartmentalized and not bring
Debian's into GSoC.

Don't take me wrong, I love Debian, but this doesn't help anybody.

Carlos

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 10:26 Daniel Pocock  wrote:

>
> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan,
>
> The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer
> for yourself
>
> Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing
> leader is an abuse of the role of DPL.  It is even worse because he is a
> candidate.  You each have the right to answer for yourself.
>
> Jonathan is from South Africa.  His response admits that he has brought
> Apartheid tactics to Debian.  Banning people is straight out of the
> Apartheid playbook, that is fact:
>
> https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> > Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from
> > the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are
> > not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists,
> > other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly
> > not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our
> > project members and volunteers.
> >
> > For anyone else, our public statement remains at:
> >
> > https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027
> >
> > -Jonathan
> >
> > On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >>
> >> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
> >>
> >> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
> >>
> >> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
> >> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
> >> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
> >> problems in Debian.
> >>
> >> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
> >> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
> >> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
> >> and interns, past and present.
> >>
> >> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
> >> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
> >> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
> >> misused this position.
> >>
> >> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
> >> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
> >>
> >> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
> >> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
> >> amounts to harassment[3].
> >>
> >> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
> >> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
> >> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
> >>
> >> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
> >>
> >> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
> >> 2.
> >>
> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
> >>
> >> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
> >
>
> --
> Debian Developer
> https://danielpocock.com
>


Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread mararm
Daniel,

please refrain from sending any further email to mar...@fsfe.org

Thank you





Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


Felix, Hideki, Jonathan,

The message was sent to you all as candidates and you can each answer
for yourself

Jonathan Carter's attempt to obstruct it in his capacity as outgoing
leader is an abuse of the role of DPL.  It is even worse because he is a
candidate.  You each have the right to answer for yourself.

Jonathan is from South Africa.  His response admits that he has brought
Apartheid tactics to Debian.  Banning people is straight out of the
Apartheid playbook, that is fact:

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/list-people-banned-under-apartheid

Regards,

Daniel


On 19/03/2022 11:36, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from
> the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are
> not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists,
> other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly
> not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our
> project members and volunteers.
> 
> For anyone else, our public statement remains at:
> 
> https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>> Felix, Hideki, Jonathan
>>
>> You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election
>>
>> In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
>> Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
>> and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
>> problems in Debian.
>>
>> Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
>> with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
>> are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
>> and interns, past and present.
>>
>> This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
>> the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
>> subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
>> misused this position.
>>
>> Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
>> disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.
>>
>> The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
>> overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
>> amounts to harassment[3].
>>
>> As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
>> stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
>> out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?
>>
>> Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?
>>
>> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> 1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
>> 2.
>> https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
>>
>> 3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/
> 

-- 
Debian Developer
https://danielpocock.com


Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Jonathan Carter

Hi Everyone

On 2022/03/19 12:36, Jonathan Carter wrote:
...

Apparently I missed some header abuse in the original mail (used to work 
around being banned from this list and mislead recipients to believing 
that it arrived via the list).


So, yes I fell for it, sorry for bringing some of that noise to the 
list, and be on the lookout for similar attacks.


thanks,

-Jonathan



Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Jonathan Carter
Daniel, you have been kicked out and consequently banned entirely from 
the project due to your behaviour and continued poor behaviour. You are 
not welcome or allowed in Debian, which includes our mailing lists, 
other communication channels or in-person events. And we will certainly 
not apologise to you for the harassment that you have caused to our 
project members and volunteers.


For anyone else, our public statement remains at:

https://www.debian.org/News/2021/2027

-Jonathan

On 2022/03/19 11:28, Daniel Pocock wrote:


Felix, Hideki, Jonathan

You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election

In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
problems in Debian.

Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
and interns, past and present.

This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
misused this position.

Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.

The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
amounts to harassment[3].

As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?

Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?

Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?

Regards,

Daniel

1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
2.
https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/




Re: Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread alimiracle

> Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?
I'm not a leader, but I hope these tragedies end

على 3/19/2022 ‫2:28 AM، كتب Daniel Pocock:

Felix, Hideki, Jonathan

You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election

In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
problems in Debian.

Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
and interns, past and present.

This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
misused this position.

Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.

The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
amounts to harassment[3].

As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?

Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?

Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?

Regards,

Daniel

1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
2.
https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/




Open Letter to Debian election candidates about Debian vendettas

2022-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock


Felix, Hideki, Jonathan

You all nominated as candidates in the Debian election

In August 2018 I publicly resigned from mentoring the Google Summer of
Code internships.  My resignation email[1] was written diplomatically
and did not contain any hints about the intern relationships and other
problems in Debian.

Over four years since my polite resignation, rogue volunteers associated
with Debian have been making attacks through emails and web sites that
are causing harm to reputations, families, careers of both volunteers
and interns, past and present.

This culture of attacks was cultivated by a series of emails sent from
the leadership role in 2018 when Chris Lamb occupied that position.  No
subsequent leader has shown any remorse or contrition for the way Lamb
misused this position.

Other volunteers, for example, Dr Norbert Preining, have resigned[2] in
disgust at the same culture crisis in Debian.

The recent legal verdict against Red Hat, Inc has explicitly stated that
overbearing and controlling tendencies of people in leadership roles
amounts to harassment[3].

As a leader, can you identify anything that is more important than
stopping, retracting and apologizing for these vendettas that were born
out of the leadership post you hope to occupy?

Will you publicly denounce the culture of denouncing people?

Does anybody else support an end to hostilities in Debian?

Regards,

Daniel

1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html
2.
https://itwire.com/open-source/debian-developer-demoted,-quits-after-two-decades-with-project.html
3. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/red_hat_fedotra/