Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-08-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Siggy Brentrup deb...@psycho.i21k.de writes:

 Hi,

 sorry for the late reply, we were celebrating my wife's birthday at
 the seaside until yesterday late in the evenign.

 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 17:53 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
 On Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 18:47:58 +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
 
  Who wrote debmirror?  Without installing I can't find out since
  only maintainers are listed in the PTS.
 
   Look at the copyright file:
 
   e.g.
 
 
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debmirror/debmirror_20070123/debmirror.copyright

 Thanks for this link, imbecile me to overlook that while on the
 debmirror page.

  I'm asking because
  there's a lot of perl code in Debian I wouldn't even think about
  touching due to the author's programming style.
 
   If you only care about the style why not actually download it
  and examine it?

 because a one line answer containg certain names would have saved me
 the hassle to do exactly what you are asking me to do.  In the dark
 ages I used to have to understand their code, it took much more time
 than I usally want to invest; so if I have a choice: no thanks.

 Thanks
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I doubt there is much style left in the code.

MfG
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-08-03 Thread Siggy Brentrup
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:36 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 I doubt there is much style left in the code.
Thanks for this helpful line :)
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-08-03 Thread Frans Pop
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Ok, you've got it unless you find someone else. Probably best to give
 it a few days for others to raise their hand as well.

Looks like I'm stuck with it :-)

I'll first contact Goswin privately for some practical matters and then 
decide on how to maintain the package.

My thanks to the people who offered help with the package. I'll contact 
you once I've gotten some basic things figured out for myself.

Cheers,
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-08-02 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Hi,

sorry for the late reply, we were celebrating my wife's birthday at
the seaside until yesterday late in the evenign.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 17:53 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
 On Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 18:47:58 +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
 
  Who wrote debmirror?  Without installing I can't find out since
  only maintainers are listed in the PTS.
 
   Look at the copyright file:
 
   e.g.
 
 
 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debmirror/debmirror_20070123/debmirror.copyright

Thanks for this link, imbecile me to overlook that while on the
debmirror page.

  I'm asking because
  there's a lot of perl code in Debian I wouldn't even think about
  touching due to the author's programming style.
 
   If you only care about the style why not actually download it
  and examine it?

because a one line answer containg certain names would have saved me
the hassle to do exactly what you are asking me to do.  In the dark
ages I used to have to understand their code, it took much more time
than I usally want to invest; so if I have a choice: no thanks.

Thanks
  Siggy
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Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi,

I'm still looking for a new maintainer of debmirror and I'm
considering orphaning the package now if nobody steps up.

Description: Debian partial mirror script, with ftp and package pool support
 This program downloads and maintains a partial local Debian mirror.
 It can mirror any combination of architectures, distributions and
 sections. Files are transferred by ftp, http, hftp or rsync, and package
 pools are fully supported. It also does locking and updates trace files.

I adopted the package when there was no alternative for mirroring and
I needed it. But since then I have switched to reprepro and haven't
used debmirror in at least 3 years. The last upload was 2007 Jan 23rd.

Bug summary:

* Status
  o 33 Outstanding
  o 7 From other Branch
* Severity
  o 3 Important bugs
  o 17 Normal bugs
  o 4 Minor bugs
  o 16 Wishlist items
* Classification
  o 8 Patch Available
  o 1 Confirmed
  o 24 Unclassified

Popcon stats:

  * 827 installed
  * 225 vote
  * 568 old
  *  34 recent

Debmirror is written in perl so you should have some grasp and love
for the language. I hate perl and it certainly hasn't helped the
package. You should also be using debmirror so you notice day to day
problems and care about fixing them.

MfG
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Frans Pop
I use debmirror (stable version) and am quite happy with it, so I'm 
willing to take it. However, I'm not a perl expert and cannot promise 
super active maintenance. I can try to at least keep it working though.

If anybody else wants to take it, feel free. If someone would like to 
co-maintain, that would be welcome too.

Cheers,
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl writes:

 I use debmirror (stable version) and am quite happy with it, so I'm 
 willing to take it. However, I'm not a perl expert and cannot promise 
 super active maintenance. I can try to at least keep it working though.

 If anybody else wants to take it, feel free. If someone would like to 
 co-maintain, that would be welcome too.

 Cheers,
 FJP

Ok, you've got it unless you find someone else. Probably best to give
it a few days for others to raise their hand as well.

MfG
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Hi Goswin,

on Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:51 +0200, you wrote:

 I'm still looking for a new maintainer of debmirror and I'm
 considering orphaning the package now if nobody steps up.

 Debmirror is written in perl so you should have some grasp and love
 for the language. 

No way.

 I hate perl and it certainly hasn't helped the package. You should
 also be using debmirror so you notice day to day problems and care
 about fixing them.

Who wrote debmirror?  Without installing I can't find out since
only maintainers are listed in the PTS.  I'm asking because
there's a lot of perl code in Debian I wouldn't even think about
touching due to the author's programming style.

Greetings from OL
  Siggy
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 18:47, Siggy Brentrupdeb...@psycho.i21k.de wrote:
 Who wrote debmirror?  Without installing I can't find out since
 only maintainers are listed in the PTS.  I'm asking because

but PTS has a link to the changelog:

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debmirror/current/changelog

and to copyright:

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debmirror/current/copyright

they contain the info you're looking for.

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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 18:47:58 +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:

 Who wrote debmirror?  Without installing I can't find out since
 only maintainers are listed in the PTS.

  Look at the copyright file:

  e.g.


http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debmirror/debmirror_20070123/debmirror.copyright

 I'm asking because
 there's a lot of perl code in Debian I wouldn't even think about
 touching due to the author's programming style.

  If you only care about the style why not actually download it
 and examine it?


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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
GvB I'm still looking for a new maintainer of debmirror and I'm
GvB considering orphaning the package now if nobody steps up.

some time i had a bad connection to internet and tried to use
debmirror and conditions forced me to write a patch for debmirror. but
it wasnt applied with strange formulation: it isn't necessary. Now i
am using my own scripts and not have a wish to see to debmirror
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Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi Frans:

First of all, thanks very much for stepping up and offering to help
maintain this package! :-)

I should mention I've never used debmirror, and thus don't feel that I
would make for a very competent maintainer of it. Nonetheless, I feel
I'd be remiss if I didn't offer to help out, though I don't want to
overcommit myself to too many things.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Frans Popelen...@planet.nl wrote:
 I use debmirror (stable version) and am quite happy with it, so I'm
 willing to take it. However, I'm not a perl expert and cannot promise
 super active maintenance. I can try to at least keep it working though.
Since this is a Perl-based package, and thus something I'm comfortable
working with, I'd be willing to help out with bug fixes, etc. I'll
even help you learn some more Perl (and become a Perl expert)

Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, I've never used it, so I'm hoping
between the two of us (and the rest of the pkg-perl group) we can
continue maintaining the package well, and maybe even add some useful
features to it.

I have not assessed all the alternative options for doing mirroring of
Debian repositories, but I think having many alternative
implementations is ultimately beneficial to the open source ecosystem
(consider KDE and GNOME, who have, in their competition, made lots of
progress)

 If anybody else wants to take it, feel free. If someone would like to
 co-maintain, that would be welcome too.

I'm part of the pkg-perl group, and I would recommend maintaining this
package with the rest of the group. This ensures that we can get
sponsorship easily (rather than going through mentors), and ensures
that there are multiple people who can apply fixes in the future.

What do you think?

Cheers,

Jonathan


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