Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-09 Thread Raul Miller
Gregory S. Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might not be legal for someone to give him PGP or explain how crypto works even while he's in the US. No, the regulations prohibit export. If he's in the US, that's not export. As you mention, even if it was a problem, it would be a problem for the

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-09 Thread Carey Evans
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This reminds me of a joke; unfortunately I couldn't track it down in a quick look on altavista and I haven't any more time to look for it. In short, a man attends several days of a trade show and each day tells a security guard that today he will steal

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-06 Thread Kikutani Makoto
Thanks for all. I'll use US-PGP and discard it before leaving the US. Regards. -- Kikutani, Makoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linux related only)

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Gregory S. Stark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kikutani Makoto writes: I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by a person like me is controversial. You heard wrong. Your nationality and residency status is irrelevant.

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Ruud de Rooij
On 1998/10/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kikutani Makoto writes: Yes, my PGP is an international version which was built in Japan, and I brought it in my laptop. The international version infringes the RSA patent and so the owner of the patent (PKP?) could theoretically sue you for using

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 02:18:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) It is a violation of US law to export any kind of pgp from the US. This is true even if you brought it here in the first place. This reminds me of a joke; unfortunately I couldn't track it down in a quick look on altavista

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread john
I wrote: You heard wrong. Your nationality and residency status is irrelevant. Gregory S. Stark writes: It might not be legal for someone to give him PGP or explain how crypto works even while he's in the US. ... In any case it wouldn't be you breaking the law, but the person helping you

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread john
Ruud de Rooij writes: I seem to recall that transfer of cryptographic software to a non-US citizen is already considered export in the US. No. Transfer of cryptographic software to a non-resident alien may expose one to proecution if and only if the alien subsequently exports the software.

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 11:23:52AM -0400, Kikutani Makoto wrote: I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by a person like me is controversial. I posted this qestion to some related Mailing-Lists (such as

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 10:49:26AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you brought it with you (and can PROVE it) there is probably no problem in theory. It doesn't matter where he got it. It is entirely legal for anyone to use or distribute strong crypto in the US. The only restriction

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 09:57:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'. And remember that books are the purest form of evil and should always be burned if they have not been

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 09:57:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'. And remember that books are the purest form of evil and

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-05 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 11:43:29AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: I had to deal with this idiocy back in the eighties when I was building computers which may have qualified as 'munitions'. And remember that books are the purest form of evil and should always be burned if they have not been

PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:47:45AM +0100, James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in Good. I asked this because Japanese developers who are planning to become

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 09:49:44AM -0400, Kikutani Makoto wrote: Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in Good. I asked this because Japanese developers who are planning to become maintainers feel

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 07:57:40AM -0700, Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by a person like me is controversial. I posted this qestion to some related

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Joseph Carter writes: If you brought it with you (and can PROVE it) there is probably no problem in theory. It doesn't matter where he got it. It is entirely legal for anyone to use or distribute strong crypto in the US. The only restriction is on export. He is perfectly safe as long as he

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Kikutani Makoto writes: Yes, my PGP is an international version which was built in Japan, and I brought it in my laptop. The international version infringes the RSA patent and so the owner of the patent (PKP?) could theoretically sue you for using it in the US. All they could get is an