Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-25 Thread Pedro Macanas
- Original Message - From: Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Cc: live@lists.debian-unofficial.org; debian-edu@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Package Selection for Debian Live This means that there can be quite a few

RE: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-21 Thread Mathieu JANIN
devel. (excuse me for my poor english if I didn't make it clear) Matt. -Message d'origine- De : John Goerzen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2006 15:38 À : Mathieu JANIN Cc : Debian Development Objet : Re: Package Selection for Debian Live On Thu, Jul 20

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-20 Thread Mathieu JANIN
Hi folks, i could seem idiot, but wouldn't it be nice to have a minimalistic bootstrap CD with everything that is needed to compose your own liveCD (perharps an enhanced version of DFSbuild, with cleaning/compressing feature like localepurge and so ), and only a minimalistic set of what is

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-20 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:01:30PM +0200, Mathieu JANIN wrote: Hi folks, i could seem idiot, but wouldn't it be nice to have a minimalistic bootstrap CD with everything that is needed to compose your own liveCD (perharps an enhanced version of DFSbuild, with cleaning/compressing feature

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-06 Thread Pedro Macanas
- Original Message - From: John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Cc: live@lists.debian-unofficial.org; debian-edu@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Package Selection for Debian Live On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:51:18PM

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-06 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:51:18PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common desktop-environments on it

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-06 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 06 July 2006 14:24, Andrew Vaughan wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:51:18PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones, each of which

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-06 Thread Ottavio Caruso
Just checking: are you already aware of Debian From Scratch (DFS), which already does this? http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/ At nearly 1/2 gigabyte you can hardly call DFS a recovery cd... Ottavio Caruso -- No individual replies, please!

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-06 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 08:06:56AM -0700, Ottavio Caruso wrote: Just checking: are you already aware of Debian From Scratch (DFS), which already does this? http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/ At nearly 1/2 gigabyte you can hardly call DFS a recovery cd... Why not? But also,

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Well, I think, we first should think about, what aim this CD or DVD should be. Which people we want to reach ? In the time, where are so many other live-cds, like Knoppix, kanotix, Grml, DSL and so on, it is very difficult to create an all-in-wonder--stuff. So my thougts are these: People,

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Well, I think, we first should think about, what aim this CD or DVD should be. Which people we want to reach ? In the time, where are so many other live-cds, like Knoppix, kanotix, Grml, DSL and so on, it is very difficult to create an all-in-wonder--stuff. So my thougts are these: People,

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:51:18PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] Hi all, at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones,

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:41:26PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: John Goerzen wrote: Just checking: are you already aware of Debian From Scratch (DFS), which already does this? http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/ yep. How do you expect your project to be different? I'm just

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:58:41PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: John Goerzen wrote: How do you expect your project to be different? I'm just interested in avoiding duplicate effort if possible. wrt/ the package selection/lists, we're heading for a desktop one (more or less what knoppix

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Baumann
John Goerzen wrote: Just checking: are you already aware of Debian From Scratch (DFS), which already does this? http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/ yep. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet:

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Baumann
John Goerzen wrote: How do you expect your project to be different? I'm just interested in avoiding duplicate effort if possible. wrt/ the package selection/lists, we're heading for a desktop one (more or less what knoppix is; but with both gnome and kde on it), and some smaller, different

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Baumann
John Goerzen wrote: Not trying to force you into any one solution or anything, but I'd hate for you to have to go to the effort to re-engineer a live CD build system if what's out there already would work for you. Sure.. I appreciate much that you share your experiences, I and Marco will

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] Hi all, at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones, each of which contains one

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Daniel Baumann] I'm open for your suggestions... It would be great if the packages used by Debian Edu would be included on the live CD. Our latest package lists are available from URL:http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debian-edu/trunk/src/debian-edu/tasks/?rev=0sc=0 I guess the standalone and

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-03 Thread Marco Amadori
Alle 09:48, sabato 3 giugno 2006, Goswin von Brederlow ha scritto: It might be helpfull if you could post a link to the image and source for people to try it out. http://live.debian.net/-Main Project Site http://live.debian.net/debian-cd/- Isos to download and try out svn co

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-03 Thread daniele favara
On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] Hi all, at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones, each of which

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:51:18PM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] Hi all, at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-03 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nico Golde wrote: Would be useful if you could provide the package lists for the two images so we can see whats already included and send you patches. The small one contains the standard system only, means, packages which have Priority:

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-02 Thread Mirco Bauer
On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 21:51 +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] * and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common desktop-environments on it (gnome, kde, xfce). I would like to see mono + mono apps (banshee,

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-02 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gnome: gnome-desktop-environment gdm-themes gnome-cups-manager gnome-themes-extras rhythmbox synaptic gnome-screensaver gdm x-window-system-core I would like: gnome-fifth-toe firefox xchat gnome-devel meld And some (less important to me)

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-06-02 Thread Daniel Baumann
Margarita Manterola wrote: If there's a wiki-page or similar thing with the complete list of packages (and the amount of free-space), that would be interesting to have in order to make more suggestions. will do that, i first thought it would be a good idea to put it into a wiki. i'll prepare a

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-31 Thread Pedro Macanas
- Original Message - From: Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Cc: live@lists.debian-unofficial.org; debian-edu@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Package Selection for Debian Live [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-31 Thread Daniel Baumann
Pedro Macanas wrote: There is no XFCE version (see http://live.debian.net/wiki/Download ). Previously there was a XFCE version. There will be one as soon as Xfce is installable in sid again. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-30 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-30 22:19]: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones, each of which

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-30 Thread Michael Fisher
Is it posible to have a minimum size image with a WM that can stay below 125MB? This would be a great size for USB versions and versions running under Qemu or VMWare. Just a thought. desNotes On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-30 Thread Török Edvin
On 5/30/06, Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] Hi all, at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones, each of which

Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-30 Thread Daniel Baumann
[ crosspost to live, -devel and -edu; replies please to -devel ] Hi all, at the moment, we have two types of Live CD images: * the small one which contains only packages of standard priority, * and three larger ones, each of which contains one of the common desktop-environments on it

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-30 Thread Daniel Baumann
Nico Golde wrote: Would be useful if you could provide the package lists for the two images so we can see whats already included and send you patches. The small one contains the standard system only, means, packages which have Priority: standard and nothing more. That's about 80MB (the image

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-30 Thread Daniel Baumann
Michael Fisher wrote: Is it posible to have a minimum size image with a WM that can stay below 125MB? This would be a great size for USB versions and versions running under Qemu or VMWare. Just a thought. Yes, but those mini-images are separate thing we do anyway (or provide an easy possiblity

Re: Package Selection for Debian Live

2006-05-30 Thread Daniel Baumann
Eric Cooper wrote: I suggest that you provide the same packages that Knoppix does (as long as they're free), since Knoppix has been out there with a real user community for several years now. No need to reinvent the wheel. True, but knoppix is i386/amd64 only. Debian Live works on i386/amd64