On 07/06/2013 02:14 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
On 2013-07-05 17:38, Uoti Urpala wrote:
The reason I replied wasn't so much to comment on the historical
licensing of the kernel (it's old enough to not matter much now
anyway), but to comment on the legal argument that was the core of
Linus's post
On 2013-07-05 17:38, Uoti Urpala wrote:
The reason I replied wasn't so much to comment on the historical
licensing of the kernel (it's old enough to not matter much now
anyway),
but to comment on the legal argument that was the core of Linus's post
you linked to. He claimed that including the c
David Weinehall wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 04:14:57PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
> [snip]
> > a post from Alan Cox explaining this. I don't see why you would post
> > your link again in full quote after that without explaining why you
> > still thought Linus wasn't wrong.
>
> I posted it full
Svante Signell writes:
> On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 16:14 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
>> David Weinehall wrote:
>> > OK, I'll instead quote what Linus wrote in the link I posted:
>>
>> >The "version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
>> >version" language in the GPL copying file is
On 07/05/2013 12:24 PM, David Weinehall wrote:
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 04:14:57PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
[snip]
a post from Alan Cox explaining this. I don't see why you would
post your link again in full quote after that without explaining
why you still thought Linus wasn't wrong.
I pos
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 04:14:57PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
[snip]
> a post from Alan Cox explaining this. I don't see why you would post
> your link again in full quote after that without explaining why you
> still thought Linus wasn't wrong.
I posted it fully because the parent I responded to s
On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 16:31 +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 04:28:13PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 16:14 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
> > Since this discussion took place in 2006, the Linux as a whole would
> > probably be too old to be interst
Hi,
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 04:28:13PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 16:14 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
> Since this discussion took place in 2006, the Linux as a whole would
> probably be too old to be intersting. However, there are big chunks of
> current code having the 'or
On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 16:14 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote:
> David Weinehall wrote:
> > OK, I'll instead quote what Linus wrote in the link I posted:
>
> > The "version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
> > version" language in the GPL copying file is not - and has never
> > b
David Weinehall wrote:
> OK, I'll instead quote what Linus wrote in the link I posted:
> The "version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later
> version" language in the GPL copying file is not - and has never
> been - part of the actual License itself. It's part of the
A
On 07/05/2013 02:07 PM, David Weinehall wrote:
So, that's Linus's stand on whether or not a GPLv3 kernel is feasible.
I hope this totally pointless thread can die now.
Thanks for extracting the relevant parts. I guess I was just way too
tired yesterday to start diving into the posting on LKML :
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 01:08:27AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 07/05/2013 12:58 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> >* David Weinehall , 2013-07-04, 16:36:
> >>http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/25/273
> >
> >http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/30/100
>
> Could you be a bit more elaborate please? I don't th
On 07/05/2013 12:58 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* David Weinehall , 2013-07-04, 16:36:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/25/273
http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/30/100
Could you be a bit more elaborate please? I don't think we should just
spam this list by just sending mails containing URLs only.
If you wan
* David Weinehall , 2013-07-04, 16:36:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/25/273
http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/30/100
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On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 09:17:48PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 15:32 -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> > Svante Signell wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> > > gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution! Meaning th
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:32:00PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> Svante Signell wrote:
> >
> > I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> > gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution! Meaning that gplv2 only code
> > will not be included! For kernels, kFreeBSD
On 07/03/2013 09:17 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
The interesting thing is not when Linus used the GPL license the first
time, it was v2 by then. Of crucial interest is when Linus changed from
v2 or later to v2 only. And looking at the source code, e.g. 3.9.8, a
very lot of files are still v2+, not v
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 15:32 -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> Svante Signell wrote:
> >
> > I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> > gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution! Meaning that gplv2 only code
> > will not be included! For kernels, kFreeBSD and Hur
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 01:16:04AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jul 02, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > You're slipping. Your trolling used to be way more subtle.
> I do not think that Svante has ever been trolling.
My initial thought was WTF but Ben's email seem to make it all clear.
Are you sayi
On Jul 02, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> You're slipping. Your trolling used to be way more subtle.
I do not think that Svante has ever been trolling.
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Svante Signell wrote:
>
> I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution! Meaning that gplv2 only code
> will not be included! For kernels, kFreeBSD and Hurd will remain, and
> Linux will be several years back of course. Anybody
Svante Signell writes:
> Sorry Ben, I'm serious about this. GPLv2 is evil wrt progress, and I
> still would like to know how many years Linux would back until the first
> V2 only statement. Of course you cannot answer this question, but maybe
> somebody else.
It's not just Linux, and the only wa
On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 21:29 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:24:40PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> > gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution! Meaning that gplv2 only code
> > will not
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 02 Jul 2013 22:29:46 +0200, a écrit :
> Svante Signell, le Tue 02 Jul 2013 22:24:40 +0200, a écrit :
> > I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> > gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution!
>
> I don't see why there should be such a need.
Svante Signell, le Tue 02 Jul 2013 22:24:40 +0200, a écrit :
> I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution!
I don't see why there should be such a need. By Debian's standards
GPLv2 is GFDL-compliant.
Samuek
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On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:24:40PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
> gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution! Meaning that gplv2 only code
> will not be included! For kernels, kFreeBSD and Hurd will remain, and
> Linu
Hi,
I've been thinking about this for some time now. There is a need for a
gplv3+-compliant Debian-based distribution! Meaning that gplv2 only code
will not be included! For kernels, kFreeBSD and Hurd will remain, and
Linux will be several years back of course. Anybody has an idea on how
old Linux
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