Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-10-01 Thread Ben Finney
Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu writes: Currently every single maintainer is forced to invent a convincing text to educate upstream. The position of a single maintainer could be drastically strengthened if there would be a widely accepted document (not only in the Debian world) which gives a

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-30 Thread David Goodenough
On Tuesday 29 September 2009, Frank Küster wrote: David Goodenough david.goodeno...@btconnect.com wrote: I am a newcommer to this particular bit of policy, but it occurs to me that the answer is to add links to the original commands to conform to Debian standards while leaving the upstream

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 13:36 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I know that there has already been much of talk about this, but I am am getting more and more uncomfortable removing .pl or .sh extensions from programs when upstream does not. At least in cases where the programs/scripts could be

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread Abou Al Montacir
Le mardi 29 septembre 2009 à 13:21 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Reinhard Tartler siret...@debian.org wrote: Would you consider this a blocker to inclusion into Debian? Upstream may either release very slowly or may just not care about Debian, which would

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 29 2009, Abou Al Montacir wrote: You can also try to make the world look like you want not adapt your eyes to see the world as is, no? We try to fix the world, yes. Systems integrations, and consistent policies, is what make Debian a superior OS. Please note that

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Peter Eisentraut pet...@debian.org writes: At least in cases where the programs/scripts could be considered part of a programming interface, this requirement is approximately equivalent to requiring the exported symbols of libraries to conform to some spelling scheme. While Debian has

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread David Goodenough
On Tuesday 29 September 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: Peter Eisentraut pet...@debian.org writes: At least in cases where the programs/scripts could be considered part of a programming interface, this requirement is approximately equivalent to requiring the exported symbols of libraries to

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-29 Thread Frank Küster
David Goodenough david.goodeno...@btconnect.com wrote: I am a newcommer to this particular bit of policy, but it occurs to me that the answer is to add links to the original commands to conform to Debian standards while leaving the upstream commands intact. That would horribly clutter the

Re: Policy §10.4 as a divergence from usptream (renamings to remove extensions like .pl and .sh).

2009-09-28 Thread Ben Finney
Reinhard Tartler siret...@debian.org writes: Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: So get upstream to change their filenames before packaging them for Debian. Would you consider this a blocker to inclusion into Debian? Upstream may either release very slowly or may just not care about Debian,