Re: Public discussion time for Creative Commons 3.0 license draft coming to a close

2006-10-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Evan,

I will subscribe to the list and support it.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
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Am 2006-10-02 16:49:14, schrieb Evan Prodromou:

 So, for those of you who want to see Creative Commons licenses that meet
 our standard of Freedom, this is the time to act. Please, if you haven't
 already, take a few minutes to send an email message to the Creative
 Commons public review mailing list [6] letting CC know that you support
 a Debian-compatible version of the license. I want a Debian-compatible
 Creative Commons license, signed John Q. Hacker is probably plenty.

 [6] http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/

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Re: Public discussion time for Creative Commons 3.0 license draft coming to a close

2006-10-03 Thread Frank Küster
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, for those of you who want to see Creative Commons licenses that meet
 our standard of Freedom, this is the time to act. Please, if you haven't
 already, take a few minutes to send an email message to the Creative
 Commons public review mailing list [6] letting CC know that you support
 a Debian-compatible version of the license. I want a Debian-compatible
 Creative Commons license, signed John Q. Hacker is probably plenty.

It seems too many have tried this.  I just got this answer:

You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Public discussion time for Creative Commons 3.0 license draft coming to a close

2006-10-02 Thread Evan Prodromou
Hi, everyone. Pardon the wide distribution, but I wanted to make sure I
didn't miss anyone.

As some of you know [1], a workgroup within Debian cooperating with
Creative Commons [2] to make some of their licenses compatible with the
Debian Free Software Guidelines [3] so that CC-licensed works (images,
video, sounds, documentation, help text) can be part of the Debian
operating system. [4]

We reached some good conclusions, which resulted in the current Creative
Commons 3.0 license  but unfortunately some of the people in the
Creative Commons community -- a diverse one, just like Debian's -- have
managed to knock the process off track. [5] The license draft now
available leaves out some key clauses that the workgroup thought
necessary to make the license DFSG-compatible.

The draft has been subject to public review for more than a month now,
and the discussion period is drawing to a close. Creative Commons
general counsel has said that they'll consider public opinion when it
comes to making a final decision about this license.

So, for those of you who want to see Creative Commons licenses that meet
our standard of Freedom, this is the time to act. Please, if you haven't
already, take a few minutes to send an email message to the Creative
Commons public review mailing list [6] letting CC know that you support
a Debian-compatible version of the license. I want a Debian-compatible
Creative Commons license, signed John Q. Hacker is probably plenty.

Complaining to each other 6 months from now won't do any good; the time
to complain is now, when it can make a difference. We've got a narrow
window in which to let CC know that the Free Software guidelines matter.
Please spread the word to other Debian users and supporters as well as
into the rest of the Free Software community.

Thanks for your time,

~Evan

[1] http://evan.prodromou.name/Debian_Creative_Commons_Workgroup_report
[2] http://creativecommons.org/
[3] http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[4] http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary
[5] http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6017
[6] http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/

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Re: Public discussion time for Creative Commons 3.0 license draft coming to a close

2006-10-02 Thread Eric Dorland
* Evan Prodromou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 So, for those of you who want to see Creative Commons licenses that meet
 our standard of Freedom, this is the time to act. Please, if you haven't
 already, take a few minutes to send an email message to the Creative
 Commons public review mailing list [6] letting CC know that you support
 a Debian-compatible version of the license. I want a Debian-compatible
 Creative Commons license, signed John Q. Hacker is probably plenty.

I'd very much like to see this happen, but I feel kind of
uncomfortable sending an AOL to a list I'm not subscribed to and a
discussion I haven't participated in. Maybe some sort of signature
collection would make more sense, then send batches in a single email
to the list. Seems more polite that way. 
 
 Complaining to each other 6 months from now won't do any good; the time
 to complain is now, when it can make a difference. We've got a narrow
 window in which to let CC know that the Free Software guidelines matter.
 Please spread the word to other Debian users and supporters as well as
 into the rest of the Free Software community.
 
 Thanks for your time,
 
 ~Evan
 
 [1] http://evan.prodromou.name/Debian_Creative_Commons_Workgroup_report
 [2] http://creativecommons.org/
 [3] http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
 [4] http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary
 [5] http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6017
 [6] http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/
 



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Re: Public discussion time for Creative Commons 3.0 license draft coming to a close

2006-10-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 06:00:02PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
 Maybe some sort of signature collection would make more sense, then
 send batches in a single email to the list. Seems more polite that
 way. 

Totally agreed, I was going to write exactly the same reply.

Evan: what about setting up a pool, a signature collection, or simply
ask people to write directly to you and then, after 1 month time frame
or so, notify the CC guys of all the subscription you received?

Cheers.

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Re: Public discussion time for Creative Commons 3.0 license draft coming to a close

2006-10-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
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Hi,

first, thanks Evan for your work and the update.

Eric Dorland wrote:
 * Evan Prodromou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 So, for those of you who want to see Creative Commons licenses that meet
 our standard of Freedom, this is the time to act. Please, if you haven't
 already, take a few minutes to send an email message to the Creative
 Commons public review mailing list [6] letting CC know that you support
 a Debian-compatible version of the license. I want a Debian-compatible
 Creative Commons license, signed John Q. Hacker is probably plenty.
 
 I'd very much like to see this happen, but I feel kind of
 uncomfortable sending an AOL to a list I'm not subscribed to and a
 discussion I haven't participated in. Maybe some sort of signature
 collection would make more sense, then send batches in a single email
 to the list. Seems more polite that way. 

If you do, please count me in.

Kind regards

T.
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Re: Public discussion time for Creative Commons 3.0 license draft coming to a close

2006-10-02 Thread Fabian Fagerholm
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 18:00 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
 I'd very much like to see this happen, but I feel kind of
 uncomfortable sending an AOL to a list I'm not subscribed to and a
 discussion I haven't participated in. Maybe some sort of signature
 collection would make more sense, then send batches in a single email
 to the list. Seems more polite that way. 

Could this be a good time to use the unofficial GR-style, devotee-driven
poll that Jeroen has set up ([0], [1])? The CC blog post by Mia Garlick
[2] seems to imply that they are interested in some kind of preliminary
indication of how Debian would handle the new 3.0 CC licenses with or
without the parallel distribution language. So maybe a poll could run
for some time, and the results, including number of participants, could
be communicated to the CC list?

Jeroen, how about setting up such a poll?

Who is on the CC mailing list and could make sure the result would be
communicated there?

[0] http://master.debian.org/~jeroen/polls/
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/12/msg00216.html
[2] http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6017

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