Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:51:07PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote: It seems then that our options are as follows. (i) Wait for the Qt maintainers to upload a fix. (ii) Do an NMU for Qt, despite the fact that this bug is not release-critical. (iii) Resort to the technical committee. (iv) Keep the

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 11:51:18PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:51:07PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote: It seems then that our options are as follows. (i) Wait for the Qt maintainers to upload a fix. (ii) Do an NMU for Qt, despite the fact that this bug is not

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:14:52AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: To punt this to the Technical Committee is to stall a solution for potentially a very long time. If you're certain you're right, and you can get the NMU correct, the only people who will complain will be the package

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Ben Burton
I suppose there's always the option of NMUing, and hoping it sticks -- then taking it up with the tech ctte. if it doesn't... This is more or less what I was thinking of. The impression I get is that the Qt maintainers have shifted their stances on this issue from defense to apathy. Though

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Dominique Devriese
Ben Burton writes: Hi ho, it's time for another rant from me regarding the libqt3-compat-headers split. (i) Wait for the Qt maintainers to upload a fix. (ii) Do an NMU for Qt, despite the fact that this bug is not release-critical. (iii) Resort to the technical committee. (iv) Keep

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Ben Burton
I wouldn't do it. Suppose you were the Qt maintainer, and you made a technical choice that some people disagree with You mean a technical choice with a significant negative impact on users that breaks compatibility with upstream and every other linux distribution and that most (not some)

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:14:52AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Bah, the Technical Committee takes months, sometimes over a year, to do something even as seemingly uncontroversial as voting in opposition to whichever solution Branden Robinson proposes. So? This is more than enough time.

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:51:07PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote: It seems then that our options are as follows. (i) Wait for the Qt maintainers to upload a fix. (ii) Do an NMU for Qt, despite the fact that this bug is not release-critical. (iii) Resort to the technical committee. (iv) Keep the

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Ben Burton
Bah, the Technical Committee takes months, sometimes over a year, to do something even as seemingly uncontroversial as voting in opposition to whichever solution Branden Robinson proposes. So? This is more than enough time. This problem is to be fixed in sarge ... Hmm? Are you saying

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Ben Burton
My suggestion: Add a Recommends: libqt3-compat-headers to libqt3-dev. This is indeed what I would add were I to do an NMU, and I would include it in the list of solutions that I see as satisfactory were I to put it to the TC. b.

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Paul Cupis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 13 July 2003 06:32, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 12:14:52AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: To punt this to the Technical Committee is to stall a solution for potentially a very long time. If

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 09:08:03PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote: Bah, the Technical Committee takes months, sometimes over a year, to do something even as seemingly uncontroversial as voting in opposition to whichever solution Branden Robinson proposes. So? This is more than enough time.

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Brian Nelson
Sebastian Rittau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:51:07PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote: It seems then that our options are as follows. (i) Wait for the Qt maintainers to upload a fix. (ii) Do an NMU for Qt, despite the fact that this bug is not release-critical. (iii)

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Evan Prodromou
AT == Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: BB Hmm? Are you saying that sarge is definitively well over a BB year away? AT If he is, he's wrong. Hubris! Famous last words! The pride what cometh before a fall! ~ESP -- Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 11:44:38AM -0400, Evan Prodromou wrote: AT == Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: BB Hmm? Are you saying that sarge is definitively well over a BB year away? AT If he is, he's wrong. Hubris! Famous last words! The pride what cometh before a fall!

Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-12 Thread Ben Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ho, it's time for another rant from me regarding the libqt3-compat-headers split. This time my ex-housemate has been hit by the problem: she's just started working with Qt, and lo and behold she received a missing header compile error. She