Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-18 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi Charles: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Jonathan Yu a écrit : >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> > >> > we just had a case in the Debian Med packaging team where the upstream >> > author >> > of softw

Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:58:04AM -0400, Jonathan Yu a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > > we just had a case in the Debian Med packaging team where the upstream > > author > > of software licensed under terms similar to the BSD license got upset to see > > th

Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Yu
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Le lundi 10 août 2009 09:58:04, Jonathan Yu a écrit : >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> > Le Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >>

Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-11 Thread Romain Beauxis
Le lundi 10 août 2009 09:58:04, Jonathan Yu a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Le Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > >> > The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many

Re: Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-10 Thread Jonathan Yu
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> >> > The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many developers to put >> > their >> > packaging work under the

Debian packaging license (was: Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines).

2009-08-09 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:33:58AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many developers to put > > their > > packaging work under the GPL, and I have already seen packages whose > > license is

a workflow based on rebasing? (was: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines)

2009-07-22 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Guido Günther [2009.07.22.1523 +0200]: > Sure. I think I do understand what James is talking about. It's > basically a matter of taste if you rebase patch branches or use > topgit - both have their up and downsides. With reference to http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/vcs-pkg-di

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-22 Thread Guido Günther
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 06:48:22AM -0400, David Bremner wrote: [..snip..] > At least with topgit, patch branches are meant to be pushed and > pulled, and use merge rather than rebase for just this reason. This > makes the history ugly, but does facilitate the kind of collaboration > James alluded

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-17 Thread David Bremner
At Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:00:50 +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 07:24:20PM +0100, James Westby wrote: > > Guido Günther wrote: > > > Which isn't a problem on patch-queue branches since you either can > > > recreate them anytime from what's in debian/patches or simply ammend the

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-17 Thread Guido Günther
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 07:24:20PM +0100, James Westby wrote: > Guido Günther wrote: > > Which isn't a problem on patch-queue branches since you either can > > recreate them anytime from what's in debian/patches or simply ammend the > > commit. They're supposed to be rebased frequently anyway. > >

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-16 Thread sean finney
hi raphael, On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:16:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > How do you expect to recognize the real starting point for the fields? > The freetext might contain text that look like field names at the start > of a line... I don't think that requesting fields to be first in the p

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009, sean finney wrote: > > I believe it's important to be able to know where the patch came from. > > I do think that knowing where the patch came from is very important, > and one of the main driving rationales behind this proposal. > > but more than a URL or a revision/commit i

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-08 Thread James Westby
Guido Günther wrote: > Which isn't a problem on patch-queue branches since you either can > recreate them anytime from what's in debian/patches or simply ammend the > commit. They're supposed to be rebased frequently anyway. "Supposed"? That's not true in my opinion. It would tend to be hostile t

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-08 Thread Guido Günther
On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 12:56:26AM +0100, James Westby wrote: > Guido Günther wrote: > >> I am concerned that just allowing to use git-format-patch will result in > >> people not making an effort to markup other metadata in DEP#3 format, > >> like bug numbers or reviewers and leave those as free-fo

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-06 Thread James Westby
Guido Günther wrote: >> I am concerned that just allowing to use git-format-patch will result in >> people not making an effort to markup other metadata in DEP#3 format, >> like bug numbers or reviewers and leave those as free-form in the body. > We can have Forwarded:, Origin:, Received-by: in thi

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-05 Thread Guido Günther
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 02:54:33PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 02:32:57PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > > We can of course convert from and to a DEP#3 compatible format but why > > not use something the rest of world uses for exchanging patches? > > It is not what the res

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 02:32:57PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > We can of course convert from and to a DEP#3 compatible format but why > not use something the rest of world uses for exchanging patches? It is not what the rest of the world uses; it is just what git uses. I am concerned that just

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-05 Thread Guido Günther
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 01:27:16PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:38:47PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > > So 'Description' (Subject), 'Bug' (Closes), Signed-Of-By, Origin > > (Author) are already there, some of them already being used by other > > tools (git-dch). Wouldn't

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 02:38:47PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote: > So 'Description' (Subject), 'Bug' (Closes), Signed-Of-By, Origin > (Author) are already there, some of them already being used by other > tools (git-dch). Wouldn't it make sense to choose (or at least allow > for) a format that's comp

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > Having only the bugnumber should work too, but the URL is then: > https://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=1215086 That can be further shortened to this: http://sf.net/support/tracker.php?aid=1215086 -- bye, pabs http://wik

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-04 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi Charles On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 10:55:13PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 02:58:28AM +0200, gregor herrmann a écrit : > > > > Maybe I'm too lazy but I'd rather use > > Bug: #123456 > > Bug_CPAN: #12345 > > Note that for Sourceforge, it seems that more than one

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-04 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi all, I take the opportunity of this discussion to make a few other questions and comments… Le Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:35:16AM +0200, sean finney a écrit : > > Origin: Some User > > okay, maybe that should be Author, but then why have an additional and > duplicate field "Origin: other, subm

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-03 Thread sean finney
here's a nice big group-reply with an assortment of comments :) overall i think this looks pretty good, though i do have some concerns that will kind of repeat themselves below about there being too much emphasis on something machine friendly instead of human friendly... On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > Description (required) > Why not simply consider all the free-form text the description? that would > make all the current patches with a comment insta DEP3-compliant. Done, but that's a recommendatino for the parser. Note that it's not DEP3-complia

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-21 Thread Raphael Geissert
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> All I see here is that the tools should be able to extract the >> information from the changelog, which often includes a bug number and >> other bits of information. > > I would say the opposite. Once you have created your p

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: > All I see here is that the tools should be able to extract the information > from the changelog, which often includes a bug number and other bits of > information. I would say the opposite. Once you have created your patch you should be able to do ˝dc

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-20 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:44:12PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > * debian/patches/fix_typo.patch: > Fix typo in the main menu: s/setings/settings > I would actually be duplicating the description (the patch name being the > short description, and the changelog entry

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-20 Thread Raphael Geissert
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Have you tried to write the field for your cases? The spec is relatively > light-weight even if it tries to support the more complicated case too. Yes, and the examples I mentioned are/were real cases. > > Description: Fix typo > Origin: vendor > Forwarded: yes The t

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: > I mean, often the patch name already says enough about it, at times patches > are just trivial (a typo fix doesn't need four or five lines to be > described), at times they are forwarded as soon as the new package is > uploaded, at times they are $VCS

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Ben Finney wrote: > Raphael Hertzog writes: > > > Merging all those ideas, I suggest we drop Status/Commit/Patch and use > > the following format: > > > > Origin: : > > I'd still suggest having the extra information optional in the case of > anything but “other”: > >

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Raphael Geissert
Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11782 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> This is a proposal to formalize a set of meta-information >> to be embedded in patches applied to Debian packages. Most >> patch systems allow for a free-from description preceeding >> the content of the patch and the plan is

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog writes: > Merging all those ideas, I suggest we drop Status/Commit/Patch and use > the following format: > > Origin: : I'd still suggest having the extra information optional in the case of anything but “other”: "Origin: upstream" [ ": " ] "Origin: backport" [ ": "

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: In this case I think we should use DEP-3 without discussion every details: we need a larger user base, then we will discuss details for standardization, but not now. I prefer we take the time to think it thoroughly so tha

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-06-19, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > +Scope and application > > +- > > + > > +The usage of this format is highly recommended but as long as it's not > > +endorsed by the Debian policy, it will not be required. It is however > > "

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 13:01 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi a écrit : What is the point of introducing this spec if it is not made mandatory at some point in the future? so, IMHO we need a complete guidelines and start to use it widely. It should not be complete or 100% pr

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 13:01 +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi a écrit : > > What is the point of introducing this spec if it is not made mandatory > > at some point in the future? > > so, IMHO we need a complete guidelines and start to use > it widely. It should not be complete or 100% precise > (so n

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 10:05 +, Sune Vuorela a écrit : >>> +The usage of this format is highly recommended but as long as it's not >>> +endorsed by the Debian policy, it will not be required. It is however >> "And there is no plan to make it required in the future"

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:40:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > > The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many developers to put > > their > > packaging work under the GPL, and I have already seen packages whose > > license is > > other

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 10:05 +, Sune Vuorela a écrit : > > +The usage of this format is highly recommended but as long as it's not > > +endorsed by the Debian policy, it will not be required. It is however > > "And there is no plan to make it required in the future" What is the point of i

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 10:55 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > It’s already better, but for more readability, would it be possible to > > have a registered list of bug tracking aliases? For example: > > Bug-Debian: #12345 > > Bug-Ubuntu: #2356 > > Bug-GNOME: #5671 >

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:40:01 +0200 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > For the avoidance of confusion I would suggest that this be changed to > > Reviewed-by - the normal Linux/git Signed-off-by has a specific meaning > > that needn't include actually doing a code review. > > I started first with "Review

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/06/09 at 11:14 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 11:03 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > > I did not contact them yet. I expect that they will follow the outcome of > > > this DEP otherwise they would have to patch lintian to support the > > > differing field and i

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-06-19, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > +Scope and application > +- > + > +The usage of this format is highly recommended but as long as it's not > +endorsed by the Debian policy, it will not be required. It is however "And there is no plan to make it required in the future"

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > It should be possible. I see one problem here though. Bug-Gnome is really > > "Bug" because it's the upstream bug. While we can have an URL mapping for > > each vendor, it's not possible for the non-qualified entry used for the > > upstream case. >

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Guido Günther
Hi Raphaël, On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging > Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed > in patches that we apply. Please review, share your comments

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:40:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Mark Brown wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > * `Signed-off-by` (optional) > > For the avoidance of confusion I would suggest that this be changed to > > Review

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 10:55 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > > It’s already better, but for more readability, would it be possible to > > have a registered list of bug tracking aliases? For example: > > Bug-Debian: #12345 > > Bug-Ubuntu: #2356 > > Bug-GNOME: #5671 >

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 11:03 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > I did not contact them yet. I expect that they will follow the outcome of > > this DEP otherwise they would have to patch lintian to support the > > differing field and it seems counter-productive. > > That sounds like a pretty b

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/06/09 at 10:49 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > My concern is that Ubuntu already has a policy like this > > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuidelines). I > > would really like ours to be compatible with theirs, so patches can > > freely be copied between Ubuntu and D

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 17 juin 2009 à 12:40 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > >* `Bug-` or `Bug` (optional) > > > > -It contains one or more URLs (space separated) pointing to the related > > bugs > > -(possibly fixed by the patch). The `Bug` fiel

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Paul Wise
2009/6/19 Josselin Mouette : > It’s already better, but for more readability, would it be possible to > have a registered list of bug tracking aliases? For example: >        Bug-Debian: #12345 >        Bug-Ubuntu: #2356 >        Bug-GNOME: #5671 Personally I'd prefer URLs (for all bugs, including

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > distribution, so I don't mind if not all packages are converted, after > > it's up to you to see if new lintian warnings annoy you enough or not to > > live with it. :) > > See my comment above about this. It should be added to the introduction > of t

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 17 juin 2009 à 12:40 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >* `Bug-` or `Bug` (optional) > > -It contains one or more URLs (space separated) pointing to the related > bugs > -(possibly fixed by the patch). The `Bug` field is reserved > -for the bug URL(s) in the upstream b

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/06/09 at 12:40 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I'll try to do some new proposals based on your feedback. But first let > me address the topic of the usefulness of the proposal. While there are > currently no tools making use of this format, I can imagine many > interesti

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-17 Thread Frank Küster
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I'll try to do some new proposals based on your feedback. But first let > me address the topic of the usefulness of the proposal. While there are > currently no tools making use of this format, [...] > In any case, it's a required step IMO if we want

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello everybody, I'll try to do some new proposals based on your feedback. But first let me address the topic of the usefulness of the proposal. While there are currently no tools making use of this format, I can imagine many interesting usage for this information. It starts with the simple stats

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/06/09 at 09:04 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > * `Bug-` or `Bug` (optional) > > > > > > It contains one or more URLs (space separated) pointing to the > > > related bugs > > > (possibly fixed by the patch). The `Bug` field is reserv

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Felipe Sateler wrote: > If the idea is to standarize metainformation, I would suggest standarizing > filenaming scheme too. What I do in some packages is to name the patches as > follows: > > 0xxx-name.patch -> Grabbed from upstream VCS > 1xxx-name.patch -> Interesting for

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > * `Bug-` or `Bug` (optional) > > > > It contains one or more URLs (space separated) pointing to the related > > bugs > > (possibly fixed by the patch). The `Bug` field is reserved > > for the bug URL(s) in the upstream bug tracker. > >

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog writes: > * `Origin` (required) > > This field should document the origin of the patch. It can have the > following standard values: "upstream" (in the case of a patch > cherry-picked > from the upstream VCS), "backport" (in the case of an upstream patch > that

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 05:44:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > * `Debian-Specific` (optional) > > > >Is this patch a debian-specific patch that is not intended to be > >shared with upstream? For example, changes to specify Debian-specific > >application paths, configuration file

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/06/09 at 17:18 +0200, sean finney wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:27:45PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > (possibly fixed by the patch). The `Bug` field is reserved > > > for the bug URL(s) in the upstream bug tracker. > > > > What about using Debian: (like Ubuntu's Patch Tagg

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread sean finney
hi, (yay for group reply) On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > * `Description` (required) > > This obligatory field contains at least a short description on the > first line. Supplementary lines can be used to provide a longer > explanation of the patc

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
Carsten Hey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:05:40AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:31:51PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: >> > If an integration of the information in the patch headers into UDD >> > would be planned which could be used to query patches not applied >> > upstr

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
"Thijs Kinkhorst" writes: >> Possible benefits (partly mentioned in the spec) >> >> - tools can be adapted/crafted to maintain these fields >> - streamline development practice to faciliate team communication >> - (web)tools can analyse and produce statistics.. > > This is still quite abstract: "

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, June 16, 2009 11:23, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > "Thijs Kinkhorst" writes: > > >> Hi Raphaël, >> >> >> On Mon, June 15, 2009 18:12, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> >>> please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging >>> Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-inf

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:23:17AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > "Thijs Kinkhorst" writes: > > above the patch? That works fine for me. Every formalisation has a cost > > and I'm not sure here that it's offset by the (which?) benefits. > Possible benefits (partly mentioned in the spec) > -

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
"Thijs Kinkhorst" writes: > Hi Raphaël, > > On Mon, June 15, 2009 18:12, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging >> Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed >> in patches that we apply. Please review, share y

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Carsten Hey
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:05:40AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:31:51PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > > If an integration of the information in the patch headers into UDD would > > be planned which could be used to query patches not applied upstream or > > similar, I would at

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:31:51PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:15:16PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:10:14PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > > > I currently don't see a relevant benefit in this above just using the > > > changelog entry, which you n

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Raphaël, On Mon, June 15, 2009 18:12, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging > Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed > in patches that we apply. Please review, share your comments and ideas > of enhancem

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-16 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-06-16, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > >> The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many developers to put >> their >> packaging work under the GPL, and I have already seen packages whose license >> is >> otherwise BSD-ish with such pat

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > The dh_make template for debian/copyright induces many developers to put their > packaging work under the GPL, and I have already seen packages whose license > is > otherwise BSD-ish with such patches. If the maintainer suddenly goes MIA an

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Felipe Sateler
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging > Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed > in patches that we apply. Please review, share your comments and ideas of > enhancements. If the idea is to stand

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Jun 15, i2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >Title: Patch Tagging Guidelines >DEP: 3 >State: DRAFT >Date: 2009-06-12 >Drivers: Raphael Hertzog >URL: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3 >Abstract: > Meta-information embedded in patches applied to

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Carsten Hey
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:15:16PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:10:14PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > > > I currently don't see a relevant benefit in this above just using the > > changelog entry, which you need to write anyway. Additional information > > Putting the informa

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-06-15, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging > Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed Wouldn't a better first goal be to have just a freeform text field ? With the current amount of comme

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:10:14PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > I currently don't see a relevant benefit in this above just using the > changelog entry, which you need to write anyway. Additional information Putting the information in the changelog makes it much harder to find when looking at a p

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Carsten Hey
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging > Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed > in patches that we apply. Please review, share your comments and ideas of > enhanceme

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread James Westby
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 21:37 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11782 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > This is a proposal to formalize a set of meta-information > > to be embedded in patches applied to Debian packages. Most > > patch systems allow for a free-from description preceeding > > th

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11782 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > This is a proposal to formalize a set of meta-information > to be embedded in patches applied to Debian packages. Most > patch systems allow for a free-from description preceeding > the content of the patch and the plan is to make use of that > space t

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 15 juin 2009 à 18:12 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > * `Patch` (optional) > > URL pointing to the patch. It can be in a VCS web interface, > a BTS attachment, etc. If the patch is available in the upstream VCS > or BTS, those URLs take precedence. Maintaining this inform

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 15/06/09 at 18:12 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging > Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed > in patches that we apply. Please review, share your comments and ideas of > enhancement

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > * `Signed-off-by` (optional) > > This field can be used to document the fact that the patch has been > reviewed by one or more persons. It should list their names and > emails in the standard format (similar to the e

RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-06-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, please find below a first draft of DEP-3 that I called Patch Tagging Guidelines. The idea is to standardize a set of meta-information to embed in patches that we apply. Please review, share your comments and ideas of enhancements. If (and once) we have consensus that it is good idea to sta