Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-29 Thread Adeodato Simó
+ Bastian Blank (Sun, 24 May 2009 21:07:49 +0200): I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. As Philipp Kern mentioned, you

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-26 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-05-25, Mazen NEIFER mazen.nei...@supaero.org wrote: You're right, most of them don't. This just means that the stat is not representative, but just a lower bound. I personally have an i486, without popcon. In addition, think about poor countries in Africa or Asia, you will probably

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs: - Intel i486, There is new hardware sold today that is (only) compatible to the 486 SX instruction set. But it runs at 300 MHz. So it would be a pity to loose support for such

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: - VIA C3 before Nehemiah and - National Semiconductor Geode (GXm, GXLV, GX1 and GX2). That affects XO-1 hardware being manufactured now, and C3s are among the viable CPUs for low cost, low dissipation school server style

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Philipp Hübner
Hi, Bastian Blank schrieb: This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs: - Intel i486, - Intel Pentium (MMX), - AMD K5, - AMD K6(-2, -3), Many schools are using LTSP on Debian (Edu) and have this hardware as their thinclients. Would be a shame if all those schools

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sun May 24 19:41, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). [..] Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about: linux-image-2.6-68649518 linux-image-2.6-486

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
J.A. Bezemer cos...@wormhole.robuust.nl writes: On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). [..] Popcon gives us some rough numbers to think about:

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Mon May 25 15:03, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How many use a custom kernel? Oh, I'm sure the numbers aren't very accurate, but I don't think that disproves his point. They're probably not going to be out by a factor of 60...

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon May 25 2009 06:03:40 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And how many people with such low power systems do run popcon? How many use a custom kernel? OTOH, none of the non-cmov i386 systems here run popcon either. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-25 Thread Mazen NEIFER
Le lundi 25 mai 2009 à 15:03 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : J.A. Bezemer cos...@wormhole.robuust.nl writes: On Sun, 24 May 2009, Bastian Blank wrote: Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with

Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. This means that Debian will get uninstallable on the following CPUs: -

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread dann frazier
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 09:07:49PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. This

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Bastian Blank may or may not have written... I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. WRT squeeze, pre- or

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-05-24, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the default machine type setting used by the compiler. IMHO you got to explain why

Re: Raising minimum CPU requirement for i386 kernel

2009-05-24 Thread Otavio Salvador
Hello Bastian, On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: Hi folks I would like to raise the minimum CPU requirement for the shipped Linux kernels in the i386 port to i686 (with cmov). For now I will not propose a change of the default machine type setting used by