Re: Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-06-29 Thread lkcl
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 1:46 PM Ravi Dwivedi wrote: > Since the below mentioned analysis of Debian's security, and that too > compared to other distros, is not very well-known outside of Debian > project honestly i don't believe it's even widely known *in* the debian project [quite how damn

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread lkcl
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 7:59 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > You are talking about a deterrent though. I think the question is, > what if someone cares more about their political cause than > retaining their uploader access? they get one and only one chance to do something that stupid. > What if

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> they get one and only one chance to do something that stupid. So the answer is that we have no way of preventing a developer from intentionally sabotaging a package in any / as many ways as they choose and the only risk to them is losing their uploader access after the fact? >the response is

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> anyone stupid enough to abuse their position may only do so once, at which point their GPG key is revoked. You are talking about a deterrent though. I think the question is, what if someone cares more about their political cause than retaining their uploader access? What if someone's keys are

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 07:22:40PM +0100, lkcl wrote: > > > i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed > > > trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only > > > distro in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring > > >

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread lkcl
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:28 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > > > i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed > > trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro > > in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring dating > >

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring dating back 20 years that is itself GPG-signed as a package, with a package

Re: Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-19 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> Do you have a publication of that analysis? I was thinking the same > about the organization of Debian for some time but never did analysis > or compared it to other distros. i found it here http://lkcl.net/reports/wot/ it's dated 2017 (not a bad guess, 4 years). please bear in mind, the

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-18 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
> i did the analysis (took 3 weeks) Do you have a publication of that analysis? I was thinking the same about the organization of Debian for some time but never did analysis or compared it to other distros. Also I like to add that reproducible builds are an excellent addition to the mechanisms

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-17 Thread Satvik Sinha
Oh On Mon, 18 Apr 2022, 00:00 Daniel Pocock, wrote: > > On 17/04/2022 19:26, Satvik Sinha wrote: > > Hi,guys and Good Day! So in recent days ,it was observed that many open > > source contributors vandalised their or someone else's project's > > reputation to show agendas of Russia-Ukraine

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-17 Thread lkcl
On 17/04/2022 19:26, Satvik Sinha wrote: > abusing your OS's reputation? i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/04/2022 19:26, Satvik Sinha wrote: > Hi,guys and Good Day! So in recent days ,it was observed that many open > source contributors vandalised their or someone else's  project's > reputation to show agendas of Russia-Ukraine war, Some even vandalised > their project to destroy system in