On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 10:18:44AM -0800, Ken Bloom wrote:
So I dist-upgrade, and it upgrades 12 packages. Your postinst runs before
any of the other 11. The computer reboots immediately in your postinst.
Even worse: One of those other 11 was a kernel-image package, and this
machine uses lilo.
Brian May wrote:
Wouter == Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wouter lsof +L 1
rebooting is the only way to make sure rebooting will work if a reboot
is required for some reason during peak usage, e.g. power failure,
etc...
In some situations it might be better to test rebooting first
Op ma, 24-01-2005 te 16:39 +1100, schreef Brian May:
Wouter == Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wouter lsof +L 1
rebooting is the only way to make sure rebooting will work if a reboot
is required for some reason during peak usage, e.g. power failure,
etc...
In some
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:06:55 +0100, Andreas Barth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I disagree. You should warn the administrator that he has to do that.
Especially just restarting ssh is _very_ wrong IMHO, because it can
easily kill the only access to a remote computer. Take a look how glibc
does it,
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:34:51 -0500, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
If the system is that important to the admin, he will pay attention to such
things. Imagine that you are upgrading ssh for some security update over the
weekend. If your system is in some colo or
Op zo, 23-01-2005 te 10:30 +0100, schreef Marc Haber:
I haven't been asked to re-start any services by glibc updates for
quite some time, and back in the days when glibc asked to restart
services, it always failed.
So, rebooting seems to be the only way to be sure after a library
update.
Wouter == Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wouter lsof +L 1
rebooting is the only way to make sure rebooting will work if a reboot
is required for some reason during peak usage, e.g. power failure,
etc...
In some situations it might be better to test rebooting first at
low-demand
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
Never mind the very idea of using anything Microsoft in such a scenario.
^
You meant Micros~1 ?
:-)
Anurag
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:27:46 +0100, Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Relax, he did not say rm -rf / in postinst.
That would be postrm.
Greetings
Marc
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On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:03:08 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and
start working without requiring any reboots. We've made this work
pretty well for libc and
On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 11:03 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and
start working without requiring any reboots. We've made this work
pretty well for libc and all
* Tino Keitel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 13:02]:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:03:08 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 14:45:52 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes. Debian packages are supposed to be able to be installed and
start working without requiring any
* Andreas Barth [Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:13:51 +0100]:
using old libs. E.g.
lsof | grep dpkg- | awk '{print $1, $8}' | sort +0
helps you to find out which ones.
There is also checkrestart from the debian-goodies package. Seems to
do some more stuff, but don't know how much better it is.
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On Friday 21 January 2005 11:03, Marc Haber wrote:
This prompts a question I have been wanting to ask for ages: When a
security update for, say, libc6, libssl or libz is installed, do I
need to restart services or not? That's one of the question you ask
three people and get five different
Op do, 20-01-2005 te 21:27 +0100, schreef Osamu Aoki:
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 07:35:42PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Op do, 20-01-2005 te 15:09 -0300, schreef Diogo Kollross:
Is there a problem in using something like
shutdown -r now
inside a postinst script of a package?
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Andreas Barth wrote:
Yes. But I prefer verifying that I can login again after each ssh
restart. So, I want to do that _only_ if I explicitly do it. (Others may
disagree.)
I disagree ;-) The way it is done now, punishes lack of attention *IF* a
ssh bug breaks it, with
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, David Schmitt wrote:
On Friday 21 January 2005 11:03, Marc Haber wrote:
This prompts a question I have been wanting to ask for ages: When a
security update for, say, libc6, libssl or libz is installed, do I
need to restart services or not? That's one of the question you
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Andreas Barth wrote:
Yes. But I prefer verifying that I can login again after each ssh
restart. So, I want to do that _only_ if I explicitly do it. (Others may
disagree.)
I disagree ;-) The way it is done now,
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:00:49AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:27:46 +0100, Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Relax, he did not say rm -rf / in postinst.
That would be postrm.
or, prerm, since it hasn't been rm'd yet. postrm would be run after, if
only it still
This reminds me of a horror story at a place I used to work. I was
browsing the 'Net on one of our production servers (this thing served
hundreds of banks around the world). I was looking for some fix or SP
for NT. I came across this site that started installing Flash Player.
It installed it,
[David Sawyer]
Moral of the story: NEVER SHUTDOWN OR REBOOT WITHOUT ASKING.
Another moral might be to always test the stuff you plan to do on a
production server on a test-server first. I fail to see how it is
sensible to browse the net on a production server. And I fail to see
how it is
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:09:46 -0300, Diogo Kollross wrote:
Is there a problem in using something like
shutdown -r now
inside a postinst script of a package?
So I dist-upgrade, and it upgrades 12 packages. Your postinst runs before
any of the other 11. The computer reboots immediately in
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
If the system is that important to the admin, he will pay attention to such
things. Imagine that you are upgrading ssh for some security update over the
weekend. If your system is in some colo or other remote location where you
are unable to access it until Monday
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