Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-25 Thread Clifford Beshers
Joey Hess wrote: Marco d'Itri wrote: If we can agree that it's not needed anymore (i.e. mandate by policy that packages need to run depmod on their own) then I will be happy to remove it from the m-i-t init script. A while back Debian would only run depmod on boot if it

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-19 Thread Joey Hess
Marco d'Itri wrote: I think because depmod --quick is supposed to be about as fast as find. YM as fast as test -nt? Doesn't seem to be on a dry cache. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 19, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco d'Itri wrote: I think because depmod --quick is supposed to be about as fast as find. YM as fast as test -nt? Doesn't seem to be on a dry cache. No, I really meant as fast as find. Which other test do you suggest? -- ciao, Marco

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-19 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 07:21:33PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: Continuing on the goal of optimizing boot time, quite a number of seconds (specially in old machines) can be saved by not running depmod at boot time. Currently it is run by these packages' postinst: Wouldn't it be a good

The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Margarita Manterola
Continuing on the goal of optimizing boot time, quite a number of seconds (specially in old machines) can be saved by not running depmod at boot time. Currently it is run by these packages' postinst: * kernel/linux-image-* * module-init-tools * powermgt-base * zaptel * lirc * toshutils *

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 19, Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Continuing on the goal of optimizing boot time, quite a number of seconds (specially in old machines) can be saved by not running depmod at boot time. If we can agree that it's not needed anymore (i.e. mandate by policy that packages need

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 07:21:33PM -0300, Margarita Manterola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Continuing on the goal of optimizing boot time, quite a number of seconds (specially in old machines) can be saved by not running depmod at boot time. (...) It looks like it's quite safe to stop running

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Joey Hess
Marco d'Itri wrote: If we can agree that it's not needed anymore (i.e. mandate by policy that packages need to run depmod on their own) then I will be happy to remove it from the m-i-t init script. A while back Debian would only run depmod on boot if it had not been run before since the last

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 07:21:33PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: Continuing on the goal of optimizing boot time, quite a number of seconds (specially in old machines) can be saved by not running depmod at boot time. Currently it is run by these packages' postinst: * [long list] It

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Joey Hess
Margarita Manterola wrote: Currently it is run by these packages' postinst: * kernel/linux-image-* This takes care to run depmod -F system.map version, which should make the depmod work even though that kernel isn't running yet. * pwc-modules-* * ndiswrapper-modules-* *

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Joey Hess
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: I think one of the issues here is that it depends on what kernel you currently use, and iirc there can be a situation where one does not want to run depmod at installation time, or when that might give wrong results. FWIW, d-i currently runs depmod at image build

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 19, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back Debian would only run depmod on boot if it had not been run before since the last kernel upgrade. Could you refresh my memory about why that optimisation was dropped? I think because depmod --quick is supposed to be about as fast as

Re: The necessity of running depmod at boot time

2006-05-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think one of the issues here is that it depends on what kernel you currently use, and iirc there can be a situation where one does not want to run depmod at installation time, or when that might give wrong results. That used to be the case