Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, January 31, 2011 18:09, Christian PERRIER wrote: However, upstream's policy in their stable branches is alway to only fix important bugs (they don't call them this way...but the definition is fairly close to Debian's). So, *in the case of samba*, I can guarantee that the user's (indeed

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Mon, January 31, 2011 18:09, Christian PERRIER wrote: However, upstream's policy in their stable branches is alway to only fix important bugs (they don't call them this way...but the definition is fairly close to Debian's). So, *in the case of

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Thijs Kinkhorst writes (Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze): In the past such things have not been allowed with the argumentation that even though stable may contain bugs, users rely on the behaviour that stable has. They may know about a bug but may have worked around

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-02-01, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: This argument seems very absolutist and would seem to suggest we should never do any stable release updates at all. But a user who wants that level of stability can simply not take the stable release updates, and only apply the

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Ian: On Tuesday 01 February 2011 14:11:44 Ian Jackson wrote: Thijs Kinkhorst writes (Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze): In the past such things have not been allowed with the argumentation that even though stable may contain bugs, users rely on the behaviour that stable

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Olaf van der Spek
2011/2/1 Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net: So, may I propose (if not already done) a document that outlines with enough detail what Debian maintenance policy is and why from an upstream point of view, and then allow for within Stable upgrades for software that has demonstrated to

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-02-01 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Olaf: On Tuesday 01 February 2011 17:18:58 Olaf van der Spek wrote: 2011/2/1 Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net: So, may I propose (if not already done) a document that outlines with enough detail what Debian maintenance policy is and why from an upstream point of view, and

Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-01-31 Thread Max Kellermann
Hi, I'm the upstream maintainer of the Music Player Daemon project, and receive a number of support requests / bug reports from Debian users who use the outdated version 0.15.12 of mpd, currently in testing. These bugs were already fixed in newer maintenance releases. I know that Debian does not

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-01-31 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:25:11 +0100 Max Kellermann m...@duempel.org napsal(a): I'm the upstream maintainer of the Music Player Daemon project, and receive a number of support requests / bug reports from Debian users who use the outdated version 0.15.12 of mpd, currently in testing. These

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-01-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michal Čihař, le Mon 31 Jan 2011 16:01:54 +0100, a écrit : Dne Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:25:11 +0100 Max Kellermann m...@duempel.org napsal(a): I'm the upstream maintainer of the Music Player Daemon project, and receive a number of support requests / bug reports from Debian users who use the

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-01-31 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:25:11 +0100, Max Kellermann wrote: Hi, I'm the upstream maintainer of the Music Player Daemon project, and receive a number of support requests / bug reports from Debian users who use the outdated version 0.15.12 of mpd, currently in testing. These bugs were already

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-01-31 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Max Kellermann (m...@duempel.org): I'm the upstream maintainer of the Music Player Daemon project, and receive a number of support requests / bug reports from Debian users who use the outdated version 0.15.12 of mpd, currently in testing. These bugs were already fixed in newer

Re: Upstream stable branches and Debian freeze

2011-01-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Samuel Thibault Hi, | His question could be rephrased: will the 6.0.x updates be allowed to | pick up new upstream stable fixes releases? While I can't speak for the release team (neither the stable or the «regular» one), I know that postgresql stable releases are generally allowed into new