Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-06-24 Thread Jo Shields
Dear all, Just to confirm that this offer is still running and still available to Developer Maintainers who apply with a signed mail. Valve have recently supplied us with a fresh batch of game codes, to make sure we don't run out. However, I will no longer be administering it personally as of

Aw: Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-26 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello, (what, am I the only old grump who's not attracted to game playing?) I'm attracted to game playing. But not to offers of software on non-free terms, regardless of price. I suggest to halt thinking about game playing. What about game producing? Tech aspect: To have Debian-based

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:40:50PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Shachar Shemesh dijo [Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:20:07PM +0200]: On 23/01/14 13:45, Richard Hartmann wrote: The risk of any outsider to become a DD for this offer alone is slim to none. You're forgetting the free LWN

Re: Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Steffen Möller wrote: What about game producing? Those who are interested in that might want to contribute to the Debian games blends: http://blends.debian.org/games/tasks/index https://wiki.debian.org/Games/Blends To have Debian-based game development eased

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-26 Thread David Moreno
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:40:50PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: (what, am I the only old grump who's not attracted to game playing?) No, no you're not. What makes you wonder that, Gunnar? :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Jo Shields
On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 21:42 +0100, David Suárez wrote: Hi, El Jueves, 23 de enero de 2014 16:13:56 Jo Shields escribió: * Import debian-maintainers.gpg, debian-nonupload.gpg and debian-keyring.gpg * Wait a long time hope for no thermal cutout * Run gpg --refresh-keys to pick up any new

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 09:10:13AM +, Jo Shields wrote: But A line has to be drawn somewhere, and the remit we have with Valve isn't everyone who ever touched a package. And I think the time you are allowed to play should restricted by DRM to a proportion of the number of uploads you did,

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 24 January 2014 10:56, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 09:10:13AM +, Jo Shields wrote: But A line has to be drawn somewhere, and the remit we have with Valve isn't everyone who ever touched a package. And I think the time you are allowed to play should

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 23/01/14 13:45, Richard Hartmann wrote: The risk of any outsider to become a DD for this offer alone is slim to none. You're forgetting the free LWN subscription. Shachar

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread David Suárez
El Viernes, 24 de enero de 2014 01:07:08 Brett Parker escribió: On 23 Jan 22:13, David Suárez wrote: El Jueves, 23 de enero de 2014 21:55:03 Dominik George escribió: Seriously, I think we should stop begging for more. Valve's (subsidiary's) offer is a very kind move and I'd not abuse

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Shachar Shemesh dijo [Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:20:07PM +0200]: On 23/01/14 13:45, Richard Hartmann wrote: The risk of any outsider to become a DD for this offer alone is slim to none. You're forgetting the free LWN subscription. ...Which is a perk I *do* appreciate and use on an almost

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jo Shields dijo [Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 04:13:56PM +]: My specific process for this has been: * Create a new blank keyring * Install the most recent debian-keyring package from Unstable * Import debian-maintainers.gpg, debian-nonupload.gpg and debian-keyring.gpg * Wait a long time hope

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-24 Thread Ben Finney
Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org writes: (what, am I the only old grump who's not attracted to game playing?) I'm attracted to game playing. But not to offers of software on non-free terms, regardless of price. -- \ “There's no excuse to be bored. Sad, yes. Angry, yes. | `\

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Zlatan Todoric
Can now be a reason for becoming a DD - I want to get free Valve games? :) -- Please while sending me text documents pay attention that they are by ISO standard that is in .odt format (For sending other types of documents please also refer to ISO/Open standars). Its not the COST, its the VALUE!

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Zlatan Todoric wrote: Can now be a reason for becoming a DD - I want to get free Valve games? :) Well, a lot of time ago we had to make sure people wanted to be a DD for a reason other than the @debian.org email address... I don't see how dealing with people who just want

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Russ Allbery contributed: Just want to mention, I'd really appreciate it if jockey and so polkit could become an optional dependency of the steam launcher (Ubuntu) and so I guess steam OS as the Nvidia functionality is not used or needed when I use steam. Despite Nvidia

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Zlatan Todoric zlatan.todo...@gmail.com wrote: Can now be a reason for becoming a DD - I want to get free Valve games? :) The absolute monetary value of the Valve Pack on Steam is €89.99 in Europe; I expect other regions to be about the same. While that can be

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:45:39PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: The absolute monetary value of the Valve Pack on Steam is €89.99 in Europe You're forgetting future, unreleased Valve games too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Pascal Giard
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:45:39PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: The absolute monetary value of the Valve Pack on Steam is €89.99 in Europe You're forgetting future, unreleased Valve games too. Still, pretty sure it

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Mario Lang
Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org writes: Immediately though, they've offered a free subscription to any Debian Developer which provides access to all past and future Valve produced games [1]! I feel singled out. As a blind DD, I can not play any of their games since they are not accessible.

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:23:05PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: I feel singled out. As a blind DD, I can not play any of their games since they are not accessible. :-/ OTOH, thats probably an advantage for me, since I am not risking to waste alot of hours with unproductive work. :-) Valve has

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Ofek Rakesh
Hi, Immediately though, they've offered a free subscription to any Debian Developer which provides access to all past and future Valve produced games [1]! If you're interested, and a DD, simply mail jo.shie...@collabora.co.uk with a mail signed by a key in the Debian keyring, and he'll send you

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:01:28PM +, Ofek Rakesh wrote: Is this meant as Debian keyring as in 1. http://keyring.debian.org/ or 2. /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg but not in  /usr/share/keyrings/debian-maintainers.gpg ? It's the former, I believe. Well, more precicely:

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Jo Shields
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:01:28PM +, Ofek Rakesh wrote: Is this meant as Debian keyring as in 1. http://keyring.debian.org/ or 2. /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg but not in /usr/share/keyrings/debian-maintainers.gpg ? It's the former, I believe. Well, more

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread David Suárez
Hi, El Jueves, 23 de enero de 2014 16:13:56 Jo Shields escribió: * Import debian-maintainers.gpg, debian-nonupload.gpg and debian-keyring.gpg * Wait a long time hope for no thermal cutout * Run gpg --refresh-keys to pick up any new UIDs or signatures * Wait a long time hope for no thermal

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Dominik George
That's belittled out non DM/DD people that are contributing too (and probably at the same level...) ;) Then, obviously, they should apply for DM. Seriously, I think we should stop begging for more. Valve's (subsidiary's) offer is a very kind move and I'd not abuse that community attitude.

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread David Suárez
El Jueves, 23 de enero de 2014 21:55:03 Dominik George escribió: Seriously, I think we should stop begging for more. Valve's (subsidiary's) offer is a very kind move and I'd not abuse that community attitude. Sorry, that's not the point... :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-23 Thread Brett Parker
On 23 Jan 22:13, David Suárez wrote: El Jueves, 23 de enero de 2014 21:55:03 Dominik George escribió: Seriously, I think we should stop begging for more. Valve's (subsidiary's) offer is a very kind move and I'd not abuse that community attitude. Sorry, that's not the point... :) Is the

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-22 Thread ابراهیم محمدی
Hey, this looks more like an anti-Valve trap for DDs aimed to slow down development of Debian as base of Steam OS by steering their time spending from developing Debian to playing Valve games. ... OK, I was joking, or at least _mostly_ joking. ;-) On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Neil McGovern

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-22 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:26:26AM +0330, ?? ?? wrote: Hey, this looks more like an anti-Valve trap for DDs aimed to slow down development of Debian as base of Steam OS by steering their time spending from developing Debian to playing Valve games. ... OK, I was joking, or at

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-22 Thread Russ Allbery
ابراهیم محمدی ebra...@mohammadi.ir writes: Hey, this looks more like an anti-Valve trap for DDs aimed to slow down development of Debian as base of Steam OS by steering their time spending from developing Debian to playing Valve games. ... OK, I was joking, or at least _mostly_ joking. ;-)

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-22 Thread Jackson Doak
yay for dota On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: ابراهیم محمدی ebra...@mohammadi.ir writes: Hey, this looks more like an anti-Valve trap for DDs aimed to slow down development of Debian as base of Steam OS by steering their time spending from developing

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM, ابراهیم محمدی wrote: Hey, this looks more like an anti-Valve trap for DDs aimed to slow down development of Debian as base of Steam OS by steering their time spending from developing Debian to playing Valve games. ... OK, I was joking, or at least _mostly_

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 01:00:10AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:26:26AM +0330, ?? ?? wrote: Hey, this looks more like an anti-Valve trap for DDs aimed to slow down development of Debian as base of Steam OS by steering their time spending from

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

2014-01-22 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
On 23/01/2014 05:03, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 01:00:10AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 03:26:26AM +0330, ?? ?? wrote: Hey, this looks more like an anti-Valve trap for DDs aimed to slow down development of Debian as base of Steam