Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Ben Finney
Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org writes: Just drop that blender thing and announce this loudly enough, preferrably by coordinating with other distro maintainers. That will eventually trigger a fork from people who have a more collaborative way of thinking. This coordination would

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org: Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): 4) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.blender.devel/19895 Patch to add support for system-wide FTGL. I kind of get flamed for thinking about using something else than what blender provides. And

Approaching non-integratable software, was: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Reinhard Tartler
[ moving discussion to -project. Please follow up on -devel if you are contributing to the technical discussion and -project for the project wide parts ] Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: It's been a while and I'm now really wondering what to do with Blender. So that everyone can

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org [2009.08.02.2130 +0200]: Before going deeper into it, I have to say I've been trying to resist the urge of going public with it, and coping with my duties as much as I could. But it's just too much now. Members of the French Cabal (which of course

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Maximiliano Curia
Hola martin f krafft! El 03/08/2009 a las 10:48 escribiste: Without doubt, upstream should be the place where cross-distro integration happens. However, if upstream is not interested, then the idea of vcs-pkg is to have a repo used by all distros, which is suitable for everyone. It doesn't

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Cyril Brulebois
o, so people noticed this discussion and brought it up on #blendercoders, where I just had a tiny chat. It looks like they agreed that the ffmpeg situation is quite unfortunate (that's the most problematic external embedded library we both could think of), but there are some technical stuff that

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org [2009.08.03.1529 +0200]: distrodev.org seems to have died sometime around 2007, do you know if there is any replacement for this? No, but maybe we can revive it? Would you write to the domain owner? -- .''`. martin f. krafft madd...@d.o

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:07 PM, martin f krafftmadd...@debian.org wrote: No, but maybe we can revive it? Would you write to the domain owner? It is now a spam site so that may be costly or impossible. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): So: what should I do? I'm thinking about orphaning the package as a first step, and if nobody takes care of it as much as it is needed, just remove it from the distribution. Packaging would still be available in a git repository, so if someone

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Maximiliano Curia
Hola Cyril Brulebois! El 01/08/2009 a las 22:40 escribiste: So: what should I do? I'm thinking about orphaning the package as a first step, and if nobody takes care of it as much as it is needed, just remove it from the distribution. Packaging would still be available in a git repository, so

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Cyril Brulebois
(I hope a single reply will also address Paul's and Christian's questions.) Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org (02/08/2009): Hola Cyril Brulebois! Hola! (KiBi or Cyril would be sufficient. ;)) Given the points you listed before, its understandable if you prefer to dedicate your time to any

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): 4) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.blender.devel/19895 Patch to add support for system-wide FTGL. I kind of get flamed for thinking about using something else than what blender provides. And who cares about shared libraries anyway, they

What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-01 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi folks. It's been a while and I'm now really wondering what to do with Blender. So that everyone can understand, I'm going to try and sum up what I'm facing. Please note it's not intended to be a rant, rather a summary of what I've to deal with. * Upstream doesn't really care about being

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Cyril Bruleboisk...@debian.org wrote: It's been a while and I'm now really wondering what to do with Blender. So that everyone can understand, I'm going to try and sum up what I'm facing. Please note it's not intended to be a rant, rather a summary of what