Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 00:47 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Thanks for this excellent example of the behavior I described. With “down to Windows level” you must think you have hit the trigger of the ultimate bazooka to shut people up, don’t you? Well Josselin,... I'm not generally against new

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 12:38 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: This is untrue. Any *physically logged on* user can connect to any network. For a desktop system this is clearly a reasonable default Well the are people that may disagree here. Of course this is dependent on personal views. Anyway what

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:03:29PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Similar (security) problems are (possibly) brought by techniques like Avahi... There's not much revealed by it that's not visible from a port scan. (Ok, the hostname probably.) And the mDNS data stream is only accessible

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 19 août 2012 à 19:26 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer a écrit : 1) In parts it has some security issues. - At least the default setting seems to be that any user can connect to any network. This is untrue. Any *physically logged on* user can connect to any network. For a desktop

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:38:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: It seems the desired scenario for NM is that /e/n/i is empty Yes. This is actually what happens on usual setups (one interface, DHCP without any special options) upon NM installation. Well, until some weeks ago I never had a

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 20 août 2012 à 21:35 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : These people are the disease. They are toxic to the community and tend Why, thank you. I think that these people are a disease who are always trying to drag down Linux to Windows level Thanks for this excellent example of the

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/21/2012 06:47 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: For some pieces of the system, “down to Windows level” would be quite an improvement. Are you suggesting that we replace the start menu by a Sokoban game? Sorry, couldn't resist... :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to