Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-11-04 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 3 November 2014 21:32, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Ian Jackson [141103 19:13]: >> The point is that the dgit user probably will have done git diff >> before dgit build / push. git diff provides a more convenient diffing >> tool than debdiff, and eyeballing the same thing twice is makework. >

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-11-03 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ian Jackson [141103 19:13]: > The point is that the dgit user probably will have done git diff > before dgit build / push. git diff provides a more convenient diffing > tool than debdiff, and eyeballing the same thing twice is makework. git diff is a nice tool. But it has it limits. Try detect

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-11-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernhard R. Link writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm"): > To do an NMU, one has to generate a debdiff anyway to post it to the > bug report (as the rules for NMUs mandate). Generating it and reading it are two different things. As I say, I intend for dgit to be able to send the debdif

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-11-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > different as with other NMUs? Where is the difference to Thanks, you described this better than I could. bye, //mirabilos -- 15:41⎜ Somebody write a testsuite for helloworld :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-11-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ian Jackson [141030 13:42]: > Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm"): > > – I’d prefer users of even dgit, no matter how good it may be, to > > not rely on that. > > Again, why ? To do an NMU, one has to generate a debdiff anyway to post it to the bu

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-10-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm"): > Ian Jackson dixit: > [ NMU ] > >A dgit user should be able to do this without reading the debdiff: > > This is a dangerous habit to get into Why ? Of course for this NMU approach to be a good one, dgit needs to

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-30 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:36:24AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > This would mean a much more expensive build by default, please don't. > > git-pbuilder uses cowbulder by default (not bare-bone pbuilder), so it > is not as slow as pbuilder. Yes, but it is a lot slower than a plain build on the curr

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-10-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 04:09:03PM -0500, Jose-Luis Rivas a écrit : > On 29/10/14, 07:44pm, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > > > This is a dangerous habit to get into – I’d prefer users of even > > dgit, no matter how good it may be, to not rely on that. This is > > a social issue, not a technical one.

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-10-29 Thread Jose-Luis Rivas
On 29/10/14, 07:44pm, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Ian Jackson dixit: > > [ NMU ] > >A dgit user should be able to do this without reading the debdiff: > > This is a dangerous habit to get into – I’d prefer users of even > dgit, no matter how good it may be, to not rely on that. This is > a social is

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-10-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson dixit: [ NMU ] >A dgit user should be able to do this without reading the debdiff: This is a dangerous habit to get into – I’d prefer users of even dgit, no matter how good it may be, to not rely on that. This is a social issue, not a technical one. bye, //mirabilos -- „Cool, /usr/s

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 29, 2014, at 01:47 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: >I got the impression that sbuild is winning over pbuilder BICBW. Especially now that bug #607228 has been fixed! Cheers, -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:54:41AM -0200, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:32:04PM +0100, Guido Günther wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:06:59PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Dimitri John Ledkov writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: > &g

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:32:04PM +0100, Guido Günther wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:06:59PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Dimitri John Ledkov writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing > > the layout of git packaging repositories)"): > > > dpkg-

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Guido Günther writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)"): > I do wonder if we should switch to using git-pbuilder by default and > rather offer to invoke 'git-pbuilder create' in case we don't find a >

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)"): > On 29/10/14 12:08, Ian Jackson wrote: > > The contents of the default ignore > > list is in dpkg-source, but it is not enabled unless the caller says > &g

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Guido Günther
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:06:59PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Dimitri John Ledkov writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the > layout of git packaging repositories)"): > > dpkg-source removes it, by default, for 3.0 based formats as it's part > > of

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-10-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm"): > On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > > maintainers of other tools. It does seem to me to imply that using > > git-buildpackage to do an NMU is risky, because: > > Yes, it is – anything other than t

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Simon McVittie
On 29/10/14 12:08, Ian Jackson wrote: > The contents of the default ignore > list is in dpkg-source, but it is not enabled unless the caller says > -I. git-buildpackage passes -I. To be completely clear (because I misread it twice in a row), you mean that it is not enabled unless the caller uses

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-10-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > maintainers of other tools. It does seem to me to imply that using > git-buildpackage to do an NMU is risky, because: Yes, it is – anything other than the standard Debian tool (dpkg-buildpackage) is. > If some user of git-buildpackage (without dgit) tri

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Ian Jackson
[resending because my MUA failed to mangle the headers] Dimitri John Ledkov writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)"): > dpkg-source removes it, by default, for 3.0 based formats as it's part > of the default igno

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-29 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 29 October 2014 05:39, Guido Günther wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 07:17:49PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Brian May writes ("Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging >> repositories"): >> > However, with git-dpm, no branch is ever destroyed. Every branch is always >> > merged into the

Re: dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-28 Thread Guido Günther
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 07:17:49PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Brian May writes ("Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging > repositories"): > > However, with git-dpm, no branch is ever destroyed. Every branch is always > > merged into the Debian branch. The Debian branch itself always heads

dgit and git-dpm (was Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories)

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian May writes ("Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories"): > However, with git-dpm, no branch is ever destroyed. Every branch is always > merged into the Debian branch. The Debian branch itself always heads in a > single forward direction and this branch is never rebased. Furt