Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 18:08 +, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Steve Langasek debian.org> writes: > > > But again, as Thomas points out, you can address this use case with much > > less per-package effort. A centralized ten-line shell script would be > > enough to locate all the installed packages on

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

]] Ian Zimmerman | So, out of 273 doc-containing packages on this system, just 70 bothered. | I feel a strong urge to put the commands in a script that will auto-file | a bug against any package in the output of the last command. How do | maintainers feel about that? I've never understood the p

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:08:50PM +, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > PDFs have titles too, and they can't be snarfed in any way I know of. pdftk will dump the info dictionary for PDFs, but if you want something a little less heavyweight, try: lakeview ok % zgrep -a '^/Title' /usr/share/doc/texmf/l

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Steve Langasek debian.org> writes: > But again, as Thomas points out, you can address this use case with much > less per-package effort. A centralized ten-line shell script would be > enough to locate all the installed packages on the system that ship files > under /usr/share/doc not matching th

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 02:08:28PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > OK, so would a debhelper patch implementing this be accepted? Hardly so, as long as the patch is theoretical and discussed on -devel, where not necessarily will get the attention of debhelper maintainer. I suggest following the usua

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Ian Zimmerman writes: > This reduces the list by 10, to 126. (There are more false positives as > noted in the sibling subthread, but currently I don't know what to do > about those). > To reduce the spamminess, the latest output is here: > http://primate.net/~itz/docpkg.txt http://lintian.de

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Stephen Gran: Stephen> adduser Stephen> False positive. Stephen> st...@varinia:~$ dpkg -L adduser | grep -i htm Stephen> /usr/share/doc/adduser/examples/adduser.local.conf.examples/skel.other/index.html Stephen> I'd suggest getting rid of things under examples/ Ok, have_doc() { local pk

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Stefan Fritsch: Stefan> This version produces false positives. I suspect it's because Stefan> you look at all file names and not just those under Stefan> /usr/share/doc Stefan> apache2.2-common Stefan> This does not contain any docs (but it contains html files). The Stefan> docs are in apache2-

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 11:37:07AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Steve> non-desktop systems, I don't think we install a doc-base browser > Steve> by default, and I have never seen a text-mode browser for > Steve> doc-base documentation that I found worth using because browsing > Steve> to /usr/sha

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Thomas Goirand: Thomas> But as it stands, each time I run lintian with the -Ii flags, Thomas> and that it complains about the lack of doc-base registration, I Thomas> feel like it should have been more easy to deal with. I try to Thomas> be a good Debian citizen, so I still do it. But if we had o

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On 08/08/2010 10:53 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Russ> possible/wishlist means that it's an info-level tag. Lintian > Russ> doesn't display info-level tags by default, intentionally, to > Russ> encourage more people to use it who don't want to see things that > Russ> aren't required. > > Russ> I

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Russ> possible/wishlist means that it's an info-level tag. Lintian Russ> doesn't display info-level tags by default, intentionally, to Russ> encourage more people to use it who don't want to see things that Russ> aren't required. Russ> I think wishlist is the correct severity for this. For the

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Ian Zimmerman writes: > If there is already a lintian check for this (as Vincent Bernat writes a > bit down the thread), does that mean the warning gets ignored or > overridden in all these cases? windlord:~> lintian-info -t possible-documentation-but-no-doc-base-registration N: possible-documen

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Ian Zimmerman wrote: > After years and years of waiting for packages to register their > documents with doc-base, and filing individual bugs with some (not all > -- I am not jidani, LOL) of those that didn't register, I am quite > frustrated. Maybe if things were more automated and less painful, t

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Steve Langasek: Steve> non-desktop systems, I don't think we install a doc-base browser Steve> by default, and I have never seen a text-mode browser for Steve> doc-base documentation that I found worth using because browsing Steve> to /usr/share/doc/$package is always quicker. Unless you find a

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

This one time, at band camp, Ian Zimmerman said: > adduser False positive. st...@varinia:~$ dpkg -L adduser | grep -i htm /usr/share/doc/adduser/examples/adduser.local.conf.examples/skel.other/index.html I'd suggest getting rid of things under examples/ Cheers, --

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

OoO Vers la fin de l'après-midi du dimanche 08 août 2010, vers 16:32, Osamu Aoki disait : >> > So, out of 273 doc-containing packages on this system, just 70 bothered. >> > I feel a strong urge to put the commands in a script that will auto-file >> > a bug against any package in the output of

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Hi, On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 10:49:51PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 10:56:23AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > After years and years of waiting for packages to register their > > documents with doc-base, and filing individual bugs with some (not all > > -- I am not jid

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On Sunday 08 August 2010, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Jeremy> Have it generate the list of packages that don't > Jeremy> register with doc-base... If any of them are mine I'll get > Jeremy> them added though I don't know if the updates would make > Jeremy> it into squeeze at this point but at lea

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 10:56:23AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > After years and years of waiting for packages to register their > documents with doc-base, and filing individual bugs with some (not all > -- I am not jidani, LOL) of those that didn't register, I am quite > frustrated: > [41]matic

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Jeremy> Have it generate the list of packages that don't Jeremy> register with doc-base... If any of them are mine I'll get them Jeremy> added though I don't know if the updates would make it into Jeremy> squeeze at this point but at least into squeeze+1. So I did. I took a slightly diff

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Paul Wise: Paul> I personally stopped bothering with doc-base because I can't send Paul> those files upstream and have other distributions also benefit Paul> from them. IMO we should replace (like menu, defoma, etc) doc-base Paul> with a freedesktop.org standard for documentation registration. P

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > So, out of 273 doc-containing packages on this system, just 70 bothered. > I feel a strong urge to put the commands in a script that will auto-file > a bug against any package in the output of the last command.  How do > maintainers feel abou

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

Ian Zimmerman wrote: Hi, > How do maintainers feel about that? Right now, frozen, I guess ;) JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian & GNU/Linux Developer - Public key available on - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169

doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

After years and years of waiting for packages to register their documents with doc-base, and filing individual bugs with some (not all -- I am not jidani, LOL) of those that didn't register, I am quite frustrated: [41]matica:doc$ pwd /usr/share/doc [42]matica:doc$ find -L . -name "*.html" -o -n