Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)"): > I'm not sure yet what the best plan for merged /usr is. I would definitely > like to make sure it's at least possible to continue to use merged > /usr

Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-23 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Holger Levsen : On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:11:24PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: Reminds me of the long /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition in potato times. And we did not even have dh in those days. Sounds good to me! ITYM s#potato#slink, potato, woody, sarge, etch and lenny#

Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 22, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Well, the iptables case is different: those are compat symlinks created > by the package's maintainer scripts, not the /bin -> /usr/bin symlinks > that merged-/usr sets up. Actually iptables is different because it mixes (incorrectly) compatibility symlinks

Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-22 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:11:24PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Reminds me of the long /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc transition in potato > times. And we did not even have dh in those days. Sounds good to me! ITYM s#potato#slink, potato, woody, sarge, etch and lenny# (Started in 1999 and

Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-22 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Ansgar Burchardt : This could also be seen as a slower path to merged-/usr: programs such as `sed` would be in both /bin and /usr/bin and hard-coding either would be fine (as with merged-/usr, but not without). Less static files would be on a read-write root file system (if /usr is a

Re: individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 21:08:14 +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > If we want to support packages such as iptables moving binaries from > /{s,}bin to /usr/{s,}bin To be honest, I'm not sure whether we do want this. We should be careful, at least. Now that we don't support booting without /usr[1],

individual packages moving binaries from /bin to /usr/bin (was: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?)

2018-11-22 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Russ Allbery writes: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: >> Moving files around in such a matter that they are still available in >> the old location (via a symlink) is not a very invasive change, so there >> is only a small risk of problems. > > I think it's fair to note that our past experience in