Re: maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-03 Thread Muammar El Khatib
Hi,

2009/8/1 Leinier Cruz Salfran salfra...@ipigto.rimed.cu:
 I disagree with you on this point .. where is success? in a civilized
 discussion on the proposal and the exchange of ideas .. if we discover
 that there is a problem why we will not publish this list, for example,
 although it is obvious that this is a problem of dependencies and is the
 branch where are shown all recent changes and new packages that have
 probability of failure? .. I think if we want development we can not be
 put obstacles .. that is my humble opinion


I understand your point, but you should be aware of the definition of this
Debian branch:

1) http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Distributions

As you can see, in 1) there says:

sid is subject to massive changes and in-place library updates. This can
result in a very unstable system which contains packages that cannot be
installed due to missing libraries, dependencies that cannot be fulfilled etc.

So, in spite of your correct rationale about this, sid may have problems related
to _minor_ dependencies and this is the case (because of its changing-nature).
This is a common problem when trying to create a base.tgz in pbuilder. Just try
again later.

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Re: maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-03 Thread Leinier Cruz Salfran
Hello Muammar

I understand you also .. The only purpose of my post was to warn the
person concerned had an error in package dependencies that uploaded to
the sid branch in order that he might realize the problem and correct
the package

My intentions have been good at all times.



El lun, 03-08-2009 a las 01:36 -0430, Muammar El Khatib escribió:
 Hi,
 
 2009/8/1 Leinier Cruz Salfran salfra...@ipigto.rimed.cu:
  I disagree with you on this point .. where is success? in a civilized
  discussion on the proposal and the exchange of ideas .. if we discover
  that there is a problem why we will not publish this list, for example,
  although it is obvious that this is a problem of dependencies and is the
  branch where are shown all recent changes and new packages that have
  probability of failure? .. I think if we want development we can not be
  put obstacles .. that is my humble opinion
 
 
 I understand your point, but you should be aware of the definition of this
 Debian branch:
 
 1) http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/
 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Distributions
 
 As you can see, in 1) there says:
 
 sid is subject to massive changes and in-place library updates. This can
 result in a very unstable system which contains packages that cannot be
 installed due to missing libraries, dependencies that cannot be fulfilled 
 etc.
 
 So, in spite of your correct rationale about this, sid may have problems 
 related
 to _minor_ dependencies and this is the case (because of its changing-nature).
 This is a common problem when trying to create a base.tgz in pbuilder. Just 
 try
 again later.
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 Muammar El Khatib.
 Linux user: 403107.
 GPG Key = 127029F1
 http://muammar.me | http://proyectociencia.org
   ,''`.
  : :' :
  `. `'
`-
 
 


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Re: maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-02 Thread Daniel Moerner
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Leinier Cruz Salfran wrote:
 salfrancl:~# pbuilder create --distribution sid
 
 [...]
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7 but it is not installable
 Depends: libept0 (= 0.5.26+b1) but it is not going to be
 installed
 E: Broken packages
  - Aborting with an error
  - unmounting dev/pts filesystem
  - unmounting proc filesystem
  - cleaning the build env 
 - removing directory /var/cache/pbuilder/build//31827 and its
 subdirectories
 

Please see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=539376

Daniel
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Re: maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-02 Thread Frans Pop
Leinier Cruz Salfran wrote:
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7 but it is not installable
 Depends: libept0 (= 0.5.26+b1) but it is not going to be
 installed

This is not a problem with sid, but very simply how sid works. It is 
*normal* that packages are uninstallable sometimes due to uploads of new 
versions of packages they depend on. That's the whole point of having 
sid.

Sure, it can be inconvenient if that lasts a bit longer sometimes, but 
normally the people responsible for solving such issues are well aware of 
them and such mails (or even bug reports like #539376) are not needed.

If you use sid and there are minor dependency issues: tough luck, just be 
patient and try again later!

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-02 Thread Leinier Cruz Salfran
thanks both of you frans and daniel

i must to get involved with reportbug


El dom, 02-08-2009 a las 08:59 +0200, Frans Pop escribió:
 Leinier Cruz Salfran wrote:
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7 but it is not installable
  Depends: libept0 (= 0.5.26+b1) but it is not going to be
  installed
 
 This is not a problem with sid, but very simply how sid works. It is 
 *normal* that packages are uninstallable sometimes due to uploads of new 
 versions of packages they depend on. That's the whole point of having 
 sid.
 
 Sure, it can be inconvenient if that lasts a bit longer sometimes, but 
 normally the people responsible for solving such issues are well aware of 
 them and such mails (or even bug reports like #539376) are not needed.
 

I disagree with you on this point .. where is success? in a civilized
discussion on the proposal and the exchange of ideas .. if we discover
that there is a problem why we will not publish this list, for example,
although it is obvious that this is a problem of dependencies and is the
branch where are shown all recent changes and new packages that have
probability of failure? .. I think if we want development we can not be
put obstacles .. that is my humble opinion


 If you use sid and there are minor dependency issues: tough luck, just be 
 patient and try again later!
 
 Cheers,
 FJP
 
 


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maybe a problem with sid branch

2009-08-01 Thread Leinier Cruz Salfran
salfrancl:~# pbuilder create --distribution sid

[...]

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.9-6-4.7 but it is not installable
Depends: libept0 (= 0.5.26+b1) but it is not going to be
installed
E: Broken packages
 - Aborting with an error
 - unmounting dev/pts filesystem
 - unmounting proc filesystem
 - cleaning the build env 
- removing directory /var/cache/pbuilder/build//31827 and its
subdirectories



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