Re: python 2.3

2006-12-28 Thread Steve Langasek
, lingering versions of python like 2.1 and 2.2, but from a release POV I never had strong feelings about getting rid of python 2.3, which was the current version in sarge. Indeed, it would be nice to have overlap in the supported versions between one release and the next, though this doesn't

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 29 December 2006 03:10, Steve Langasek wrote: It was? I don't remember this... I certainly wanted to make sure etch didn't release with ancient, lingering versions of python like 2.1 and 2.2, but from a release POV I never had strong feelings about getting rid of python 2.3, which

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 02:22 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: To conclude, the support of multiple python versions is not meant at all as an excuse for lazy debian maintainers

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: To conclude, the support of multiple python versions is not meant at all as an excuse for lazy debian maintainers depending on python for not following upstream python development.

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Matthias Klose
Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 19:51 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:17:03AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: The python team has apparently decreed that python 2.3 will not be in etch. This forces every package to use the new version. Surely

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:38:05AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: An explicitely stated goal of the release team was to reduce the number of supported python versions for the next stable release. We did include three python versions for sarge (2.[123]). Actually, four: 2.4 is also in sarge

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: To conclude, the support of multiple python versions is not meant at all as an excuse for lazy debian maintainers depending on python for not following upstream python development. Are you calling me lazy for not fixing a bug that you

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: An explicitely stated goal of the release team was to reduce the number of supported python versions for the next stable release. We did include three python versions for sarge (2.[123]). To reduce that count we do have to drop 2.3

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony Towns
are right, you cannot upgrade to python (2.3) without also upgrading to wxgtk-python (2.3) or de-installing wxgtk-python (2.2). Sure you can. dpkg --force-depends -i python_*.deb will do it for you. If you want something bad enough, and don't mind breaking things, anything's possible. Cheers, aj

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-21 Thread David Weinehall
upgrading wxgtk-python may break stuff. actually, if the dependencies are right, you cannot upgrade to python (2.3) without also upgrading to wxgtk-python (2.3) or de-installing wxgtk-python (2.2). Sure you can. dpkg --force-depends -i python_*.deb will do it for you. If you want something

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 11:22:43AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: | On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:33:26AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: | Now, I could do the dependency on python (= 2.2), python (2.3) thing. | But what would that gain me or users? I see no benefit there, other than | people

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:44:22PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: The negative effect for the users is that you can't upgrade python while wxgtk-python is installed so you can't try out the latest-and-greatest python in the meantime. This is the issue at hand. Sure you can: $

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-20 Thread Donovan Baarda
. This is the issue at hand. Sure you can: $ sudo apt-get install python2.3 The dependency stuff merely notes that upgrading python without also upgrading wxgtk-python may break stuff. actually, if the dependencies are right, you cannot upgrade to python (2.3) without also upgrading

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Joey Hess
Josip Rodin wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P Actually I'm more reminded of the perl* packages and the complete mess that followed. And I keep expecting to see the same set of problems affect python. -- see

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Matthias Klose
Joey Hess writes: Josip Rodin wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P Actually I'm more reminded of the perl* packages and the complete mess that followed. And I keep expecting to see the same set of problems

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 02:04:52AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Joey Hess writes: Josip Rodin wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P Actually I'm more reminded of the perl* packages and the complete

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:47:48AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: There is an alternative... only support one version of python... and be stuck at python 2.1 until everything uses it, or lose things like zope etc. Alternatively the python developers could try to keep backwards compatibility :-|

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-07 Thread Domenico Andreoli
, but if Debian can go to Python 2.3 within days of it being released without breaking anything else, I'd say thats pretty damn impressive. ... -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok --[ http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gpgkey.asc ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A 8936 4FEE 0677 9033 A20E BC50

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:31:53PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Last weekend, python 2.3 was released. With the next python2.3 upload, python2.3 becomes the default python version. Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-06 Thread Domenico Andreoli
hmmm.. just curious... why? On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:18:53AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:31:53PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: Last weekend, python 2.3 was released. With the next python2.3 upload, python2.3 becomes the default python version. Am I the only one

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-06 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:18:53AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: hmmm.. just curious... why? The short of it: he's

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 09:33:26AM -0500, Chad Walstrom wrote: Am I the only one who has a disgusting reminiscence of netscape*.* packages every time python* is mentioned? :P hmmm.. just curious... why? The short of it: he's joking. Note the smiley. Even though package names that

Re: python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-06 Thread Donovan Baarda
was going to post nice job everyone... the Python Policy looks like it is working. There are still a few niggly things, but if Debian can go to Python 2.3 within days of it being released without breaking anything else, I'd say thats pretty damn impressive. I'd be curious to know how other distro's

python 2.2 - python 2.3 transition

2003-08-05 Thread Matthias Klose
Last weekend, python 2.3 was released. For an overview see http://python.org/2.3/highlights.html With the next python2.3 upload, python2.3 becomes the default python version. Some packages become uninstallable until they are converted to the new version. In this time you should not update