Accepted vacation 3.3.3 (source) into unstable

2019-08-24 Thread Ian Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 11:47:49 +0100 Source: vacation Binary: vacation Architecture: source Version: 3.3.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Phil Brooke Changed-By: Ian Jackson Description: vacation - email

Accepted vacation 3.3.2 (source amd64) into unstable

2019-08-19 Thread Phil Brooke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:06:42 +0100 Source: vacation Binary: vacation vacation-dbgsym Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.3.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Phil Brooke Changed-By: Phil Brooke Description

Accepted vacation 3.3.1 (source i386) into unstable

2014-10-22 Thread Phil Brooke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:57:12 +0100 Source: vacation Binary: vacation Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.3.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Phil Brooke p...@debian.org Changed-By: Phil Brooke p...@debian.org

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-15 Thread Bjørn Mork
vacation only return libnet-sieve-script-perl, which is more of a toolbox than an actual sieve enabled MDA. Bjørn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
apt-cache search 5230 and apt-cache search sieve vacation only return libnet-sieve-script-perl, which is more of a toolbox than an actual sieve enabled MDA. Package dovecot-sieve - RFC 5230 is listed as fully supported at upstream Homepage: http://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/ - Jonas

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/14/2014 01:58 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): With mailbot from courier-maildrop, it's easy to do for a .mailfilter file (though it'd be once per recipient, which is IMO enough, I don't You have an interesting definition of easy, Thomas..:-) My

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week to each receiver. Having every end user implement similar behaviour in sieve isn't likely to happen. The world has

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Bjørn Mork
Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week to each receiver. Having every end user implement similar behaviour

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week to each receiver. Having every end user

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
such a replacement (I just don't know) please mention it in the removal bug report. I agree with waldi that the most simple replacement is a Sieve-enabled LDA. Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Marco d'Itri writes (Re: removal of the vacation package): On Jan 12, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: The set of bugs looks tractable to me. Do you have a half-prepared upload somewhere or is the versionn in the archive the most recent ? No, I have really ignored

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 13, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: OK. I will take it. Would you prefer me to do an upload right away to change the Maintainer or can it wait (weeks very likely) until I've had a chance to do some actual work on it ? No hurry. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-13 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Thomas Goirand (z...@debian.org): With mailbot from courier-maildrop, it's easy to do for a .mailfilter file (though it'd be once per recipient, which is IMO enough, I don't You have an interesting definition of easy, Thomas..:-) signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
from the archive. It still seems to have a fair number of loyal users though. I see your points, but I wonder if we do have a decent replacement for it to suggest to our users. A replacement that is better than trying to mimic vacation by hand in procmail, and doing it wrong; arguably doing so

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Marco d'Itri writes (removal of the vacation package): I stopped maintaining it years ago and nobody ever bothered to ask me about it... It does not support MIME and a lot of other things that are required to be a good citizen in today's Internet, so unless somebody has some really

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:00:45AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: but I wonder if we do have a decent replacement for it to suggest to our users. Dovecot LDA supports Sieve and die vacation extension. Not sure if we have other stand-alone replacements. Bastian -- Emotions

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 12, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: It still seems to have a fair number of loyal users though. I see your popcon says 1867 have it installed, but only 222 voted. If we do have such a replacement (I just don't know) please mention it in the removal bug report. I agree with

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Bjørn Mork
it in the removal bug report. I agree with waldi that the most simple replacement is a Sieve-enabled LDA. Is there such a beast with feature parity? vacation has a few nice defaults, like ignoring list mails and only sending one message per week to each receiver. Having every end user implement

Re: removal of the vacation package

2014-01-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: This doesn't look like a MIME bug to me. It looks like vacation truncates multiline subjects. There is absolutely no reason it should try to parse any MIME. Well, if you include the subject in the reply, it would nice if it would undo RFC 2047 encoding

removal of the vacation package

2014-01-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
I stopped maintaining it years ago and nobody ever bothered to ask me about it... It does not support MIME and a lot of other things that are required to be a good citizen in today's Internet, so unless somebody has some really compelling arguments to keep it around and wants to adopt it I

Accepted vacation 3.3.0-0.4 (source amd64)

2011-03-28 Thread Ondřej Surý
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:19:24 +0200 Source: vacation Binary: vacation Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.3.0-0.4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it Changed-By: Ondřej Surý ond...@debian.org

Accepted sork-vacation-h3 3.1-1 (source all)

2009-05-31 Thread Gregory Colpart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:16:28 +0200 Source: sork-vacation-h3 Binary: sork-vacation-h3 Architecture: source all Version: 3.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Horde Maintainers pkg-horde-hack...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Perfect Vacation Almost for Free

2008-04-27 Thread David Etienne
Attention: Everyone who need to getaway Do you need to escape from your daily stress? Do you need a vacation? We have the best deal for you, at an affordable price. Visit the All Inclusive Ressorts of the Oasis Hamaca in Boca Chica, Santo Domingo or The Coral Canoa by Hilton. The Special

Accepted vacation 3.3.0-0.3 (source i386)

2007-10-07 Thread Clint Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:55:42 -0400 Source: vacation Binary: vacation Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.3.0-0.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted sork-vacation-h3 3.0.1-1 (source all)

2007-07-10 Thread evolix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:59:51 +0200 Source: sork-vacation-h3 Binary: sork-vacation-h3 Architecture: source all Version: 3.0.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Horde Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed

Accepted sork-vacation-h3 3.0-1 (source all)

2006-10-16 Thread evolix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2006 12:00:00 +0200 Source: sork-vacation-h3 Binary: sork-vacation-h3 Architecture: source all Version: 3.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Horde Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Gregory

Bug#377556: ITP: sork-vacation-h3 -- autovacation module for Horde Framework

2006-07-09 Thread Gregory Colpart
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gregory Colpart (evolix) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: sork-vacation-h3 Version : 3.0 Upstream Author : The Horde Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.horde.org/vacation/ * License : Apache License 1.1-like

Vacation message from a NM

2006-06-21 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear friends! As I am no DD till now (still awaiting FD approval) I send my vac message here: Packages I am responsible for: texinfo, info cm-super(-x11) texlive-* I am leaving for more or less 5 weeks without any regular internet connection, and not the time to care

Accepted vacation 3.3.0-0.2 (source i386)

2006-05-03 Thread Don Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 20:47:09 -0700 Source: vacation Binary: vacation Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.3.0-0.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted vacation 3.3.0-0.1 (source powerpc)

2006-01-06 Thread Don Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:12:39 -0800 Source: vacation Binary: vacation Architecture: source powerpc Version: 3.3.0-0.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Don Armstrong [EMAIL

Always get the lowest vacation, not a dream

2005-12-19 Thread travellers . dream . hunter
, the lowest price to go to Vegas, Bahamas, Barbados, Caribbean, Europe, France, or wherever? Expedia, Travelocity, Itravel2000, Priceline, Orbitz, Escapenow, Hotel.com. Who is offering the best deal? When are they offering the best deal? I have a fixed vacation schedule, when is the most

Accepted sork-vacation 2.2.2-3 (source all)

2005-11-05 Thread Ola Lundqvist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:25:54 +0100 Source: sork-vacation Binary: sork-vacation Architecture: source all Version: 2.2.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL

Accepted sork-vacation 2.2.2-2 (source all)

2005-10-22 Thread Ola Lundqvist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:01:51 +0200 Source: sork-vacation Binary: sork-vacation Architecture: source all Version: 2.2.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL

Benita Hsueh/Toronto/IBM is on Vacation and Working at IBM Brazil

2005-06-24 Thread Benita Hsueh
I will be out of the office starting 06/18/2005 and will not return until 07/01/2005. I will have limited access to email. If you need immediate assistance, please contact my DB2 Competitive Linux Technology and Enablement backup Melody Ng. For NextWave Issues or questions, please contact Paul

Accepted sork-vacation 2.2.2-1 (all source)

2005-05-01 Thread Ola Lundqvist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 21:16:18 +0200 Source: sork-vacation Binary: sork-vacation Architecture: source all Version: 2.2.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL

Accepted sork-vacation 2.2-1 (all source)

2004-01-07 Thread Ola Lundqvist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:24:05 +0100 Source: sork-vacation Binary: sork-vacation Architecture: source all Version: 2.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ola Lundqvist [EMAIL

[VACATION] .au Sydney 29.9(Today)/30.9

2003-09-29 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, i am in Sydney for Today and Tomorrow - So if any Debian enthusiasts is willing to go out for a Beer or Keysigning ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Heisenberg may have been here. pgpszBaWXKKTM.pgp Description:

vacation mail

2003-08-20 Thread vikasarora0011
mail recived

Accepted vacation 3.3.0 (i386 source)

2003-06-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:18:08 +0200 Source: vacation Binary: vacation Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.3.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Matt Ryan
Emile van Bergen wrote: However, I fail to understand why you want people to refrain from bringing the netiquette under the attention of the people they are receiving email from. Never said they should refrain. I do think that it's a waste of time though. IOW, if everybody just tries to

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 19 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 10:17:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: (I'd quote a proverb about how small things lead to big things, but I can't currently think of any of those in English. :) Look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 20 May 2003 07:14:33 +0100, Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't like school boy rules and I thought I'd tell everyone. Good manners are school boy rules? I suppose I would have liked you better when you were younger, then. manoj -- There ain't nothin' in this

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:14:33AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Emile van Bergen wrote: However, I fail to understand why you want people to refrain from bringing the netiquette under the attention of the people they are receiving email from. Never said they should refrain. I do think

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:14:33AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Emile van Bergen wrote: However, I fail to understand why you want people to refrain from bringing the netiquette under the attention of the people they are receiving email from. Never said they should refrain. I do think that

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-20 Thread Matt Ryan
As opposed to plowing through your idiotic screed about how people shouldn't have high standards, which is clearly not a waste of time since it has important implications for how all developers maintain their packages, right? Seems you couldn't resist helping me by extending the thread? But

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Matt Ryan
Josip Rodin wrote: Well, yeah, sure, but the highway analogy doesn't apply. There isn't a single technical reason why I as a random person need to ever be in any sort of contact with a spammer to keep the system running. There was no mention of spammers in the thread! While they are prone to

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Matt Ryan
Emile van Bergen wrote I also don't understand the phrase today's Internet world. You mean with the hordes running Outlook and shopping on the clickable amazing discoveries / quantum shopping / tell sell channel that's the WWW? Yes. If you have to interact with them to any great extent then its

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 07:14:07PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Josip Rodin wrote: Well, yeah, sure, but the highway analogy doesn't apply. There isn't a single technical reason why I as a random person need to ever be in any sort of contact with a spammer to keep the system running.

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 07:14:07PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Well, yeah, sure, but the highway analogy doesn't apply. There isn't a single technical reason why I as a random person need to ever be in any sort of contact with a spammer to keep the system running. There was no mention of

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 10:17:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: (I'd quote a proverb about how small things lead to big things, but I can't currently think of any of those in English. :) Look after the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-19 Thread Miles Bader
Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sending HTML emails its a general comment on people usage of the Internet. If you can limit yourself to contacts who are technical enough to understand the arguments why you don't like it then you can maintain the pretence that it doesn't exist. Those who

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Emile van Bergen wrote: So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and irrelevant in today's Internet world. Firstly I doubt any of the people who

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emile van Bergen wrote: So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and irrelevant in today's Internet world.

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Emile van Bergen wrote: So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? Society evolves and with it rules change, we need to accept this and see what

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Society evolves and with it rules change, we need to accept this and see what evolves - if it turns out to be bad then limits will have to be applied, but I'm not seeing a complete state of anarchy break out yet... Right now we're

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Josip Rodin wrote: Right now we're getting really damn close to anarchy, when everyone and their dog has the means to entirely obliterate everyone else's mailbox with unwanted whatever-they-have-to-say, and sometimes even obliterate their computer (with viruses). We have the ability to

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Neil McGovern wrote: These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML e-mail in mutt. You are figting a losing battle. If the MUA that someone uses is set-up to send HTML (rich test, whatever) email then you are highly unlikely to get them to change it. Some devices (cable

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Matt Ryan
Andreas Metzler wrote: Hello, Which does not matter at all. This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. having it distributed as RFC is just a convenience, because searching for rcf1855 on google will find perfect hits en masse. Hello, Finding it is not the problem. As I

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: | These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML | e-mail in mutt. Why not? Mutt deals perfectly well with HTML e-mail if you have lynx or w3m installed on your system and have auto_view text/html in

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 19 May 2003 00:25, Matt Ryan wrote: Neil McGovern wrote: These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML e-mail in mutt. You are figting a losing battle. If the MUA that someone uses is set-up to send HTML (rich test, whatever) email then you are highly

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:25:42PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Yes, but then if the majority of clients can send/recive HTML email, who has the compatibility problem? It doesn't matter what the clients are able to do. The majority of readers on this list don't want HTML-postings. Just like they

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:54:08PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: | These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML | e-mail in mutt. Why not? Mutt deals perfectly well with HTML e-mail if you have lynx or

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Metzler wrote: Hello, Which does not matter at all. This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. having it distributed as RFC is just a convenience, because searching for rcf1855 on google will find perfect hits en masse. Hello,

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and irrelevant in today's Internet world. Firstly I doubt any of the people who violate the rules are even aware what an RFC is or what it's for - and if they did they probably wouldn't care.

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 15:30:52 +0100, Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Andreas Metzler wrote: Hello, Which does not matter at all. This memo does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. having it distributed as RFC is just a convenience, because searching for rcf1855 on google will

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 15:25:42 +0100, Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Neil McGovern wrote: These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML e-mail in mutt. You are figting a losing battle. If the MUA that someone uses is set-up to send HTML (rich test, whatever) email

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 10:26:38 +0100, Matt Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Emile van Bergen wrote: So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 18 May 2003 22:54:08 +0800, Cameron Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML e-mail in mutt. Why not? Mutt deals perfectly well with HTML e-mail It

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:25:42PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Neil McGovern wrote: These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML e-mail in mutt. You are figting a losing battle. Unfortunatly, this may be so, but the latest trend I personally have seen is away from HTML

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's very rare for me to have a HTML email that I actually want to read, I probably should configure my mail server to reject them all. I have sendmail rules to do that. I may go back to rejecting multipart/alternative mail as well.

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 07:26:34PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: I disagree. Once I've explained why I don't like HTML e-mail, people normally see 'my side' and switch. And if they still don't see it, the following 'html' might convince them, at least if they use outlook (be careful. It is not

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:28:27PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Right now we're getting really damn close to anarchy, when everyone and their dog has the means to entirely obliterate everyone else's mailbox with unwanted whatever-they-have-to-say, and sometimes even obliterate their computer

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: Emile van Bergen wrote: So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? What I'm saying is that (a lot of) these rules are archaic and

Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-17 Thread Matt Ryan
[He who should not be named wrote] That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents of many messages). Refer to RFC 1855 or any other netiquette document for further information. With

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)]

2003-05-17 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 05:57:31PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: [He who should not be named wrote] That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents of many messages). Refer to RFC 1855 or

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 15 May 2003 07:17, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hello. My spam protection system is unsure about your message. Since you're reading this, your email isn't spam ;-) -- please either sign your emails to me, or send a short confirmation to the address my name-abqux at domain so that and your

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 15 May 2003 05:27, Chad Walstrom wrote: It is a shame that such a simple scuffle on-list has sent you packing. Someone who gives up so easily would never last. Everyone gets flamed on occasion, if you can't deal with it you can't survive on a popular mailing list. The Internet is not

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-15 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I would. If I ever get a message like that, I would be grateful -- It'll allow me to add yet another obnoxious auto-reply to my spam filters. Well, thanks for the feedback. Rest assured you shall never get email from me, or any official posiiton I may

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
Clay Crouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My most humble apologies. It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left. I truly didn't expect to be attacked

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-15 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 15 May 2003 14:37, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Ahem. Your email wouls have to contain a few highly unlikely phrases to be classified as uncertain by me. FWIW, yours ends up as X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-42.6 required=5.0 Sorry, if you are only using that when spamassasin records it as a

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Clay Crouch
*sigh* I hate to start off my return to the Project this way, but I just can't let this one go unanswered. :^( On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:48:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: And please don't be offended by the .sig. That .sig

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: I hate to start off my return to the Project this way, but I just can't let this one go unanswered. :^( Perhaps not, but you could have answered more civilly. A triumphant return, indeed. But, if we must... On Tue, May 13, 2003

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:11:45AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: Can the QA team use an additional 5-20 hours a week of volunteer help from an already-registered Developer? I'm afraid they can't hear you. They have their

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Peter Makholm
Clay Crouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:48:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents of many messages). Pleased to meet

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 13 May 2003 23:27:31 -0500, Clay Crouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hmmm An ettiquette lesson before a welcome back and a work assignemnt, just because you find my anti-spam measures draconian and my filter bypass info in my sig to be annoying. Charming, to be sure Pleased to

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Or do you send one of those obnoxious autoreplies asking people to confirm their messages to you? FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to spam status dubious messages, I wouldn't call them obnoxious. I agree, though, that an auto-bit-bucket, which doesn't _at_least_

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: *plonk* *plonk* Can the QA team use an additional 5-20 hours a week of volunteer help from an already-registered Developer? Could the Project use another Alpha autobuilder? If not The Project always needs more help, but it

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:45:48 +0200, Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Or do you send one of those obnoxious autoreplies asking people to confirm their messages to you? FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to spam status dubious messages, I wouldn't call

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 May 2003 14:27, Clay Crouch wrote: Hmmm An ettiquette lesson before a welcome back and a work assignemnt, just because you find my anti-spam measures draconian and my filter bypass info in my sig to be annoying. When such lessons are needed they should be dealt with first. And

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, My most humble apologies. It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left. I truly didn't expect to be attacked on my first post. I also truly

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:10:08PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left. Eh? Culture? Look, your anti-spam

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Clay Crouch wrote: Folks, My most humble apologies. Doubt that. You haven't changed your ways. It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:10:08PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: I truly didn't expect to be attacked on my first post. I also truly didn't expect to be further lambasted from all quarters for responding to them. IIRC, the debian-devel mailing list has always been a no-nonsense forum. Honestly,

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Chad Walstrom wrote: IIRC, the debian-devel mailing list has always been a no-nonsense forum. Honestly, the anti-spam technique you employ is very simple, but also very draconic, in-flexible, and rude. It is far better to set up some sort of cookie handshake

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Clay Crouch wrote: Five percent failure, eh? Try zero percent, with zero false positives. This may be a stupid question, but how do you KNOW that you have zero false positives (i.e. mail classified as spam which isn't) if you redirect it to /dev/null? -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to spam status dubious messages, I wouldn't call them obnoxious. I am not sure I understand. If such a message is sent to me, I certainly find them obnoxious. That's why I said I. Personal tastes differ, but so do

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 14 May 2003 23:17:07 +0200, Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to spam status dubious messages, I wouldn't call them obnoxious. I am not sure I understand. If such a message is sent to me, I certainly find them

Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, Things have finally settled down, and I once again have some spare time to devote to Debian after a 2-year absence The new sysadmin job is going well. The new child is growing up. The new house is now home. The Everquest Addiction(tm) has faded. Etc. :^) For the time being, I am

Coming back from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, Things have finally settled down, and I once again have some spare time to devote to Debian after a 2-year absence The new sysadmin job is going well. The new child is growing up. The new house is now home. The Everquest Addiction(tm) has faded. Etc. :^) For the time being, I am

Re: Returning from vacation. (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: And please don't be offended by the .sig. That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents of many messages). Refer to RFC 1855 or

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