From: Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the feature of man to index all the
'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current directory,
when it is invoked.
Is this is consequence of your $MANPATH or is it in the man program?
Is $HOME automaticaly
Just a pointer -- CPAN (the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network,
inspired by CTAN [s/Perl/TeX/]) has some tools for monitoring their
mirrors for freshness and accuracy; you can probably find the tools
and reports from any CPAN site or from the perl website... or else ask
on the perl-packrats
well, there is a half-baked idea that I've seen go by: in emacs, *if*
the user has done an stty erase ^h (ie. if the ltchars erase entry is ^h)
then treat ^h as backspace, otherwise treat it as help-char...
However, that's not going into debian emacs unless it goes into the
upstream version
Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms!
in xterm, or in rxvt? (This is one of the two or three differences
between the rxvt and xterm termcap entries...)
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On May 25, Fabrizio Polacco wrote
Hi folks!
Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the feature of man to index all the
'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current directory,
when it is invoked.
How about having it just index $HOME/man by default, and adding a switch to
turn on
On Sun, 25 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote:
The package is in hamm/non-free/binary-i386/devel . I don't know why Guy
put it into devel.
hmmm. is that the libs that are in devel? I must have been thinking more
along the lines of a front end... and xmysql depends on xlib6 or
something like
Hi,
Christian == Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christian Perhaps we can make an exception for stupid emacs (yes, I
Christian use it too :-)
Christian I just had a look at the article again and it seams as the
Christian author silently overrides ^H to behave like Backspace :-)
I seems to recall this might have been discussed before, but I wasn't
sure and couldn't dig up the conversation, so here goes.
I just got around to installing ssh so I could learn about it and
start using it, and I noticed that when I set up one of my machines
with a valid authorized_keys file
I am about to create a package (in fact it's ready) with
alt.sysadmin.recovery man pages (things like lart, sysadmin, etc.)
So, first of all I'd like to check if there are no other people working on
it and if the others think this should be put into Debian.
And another question - I'm not sure if
Hi,
Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games?
manoj
confused
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On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote
Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games?
Check out the manpages at http://www.bofh.net/man/:
lart - Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - use a lart to adjust lusers'
attitudes
sysadmin - responsible for everything imaginable that
You can make ssh accept group writable home dirs by changing a line in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config:
StrictModes yes
needs to be changed to
StrictModes no
I personally prefer to change the home directories to be only writable by
user, but that is because I'm paranoid.
Maybe the install script
On May 25, Christian Schwarz wrote
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Would someone mind if I add the following entry to the list of virtual
package names?
ups-monitorAnything that is capable of controlling an UPS
tclsh any package providing a tclsh
wishany
Hi,
Oh, I see. Well, this stuff is then like a joke book, in
manual page format, and I think that humor should still fit in under
the doc category (If I remember correctly, that is where the
consensus was to place books like the bible or older books whose
copyrights have expired)
Bruce Perens wrote:
From: Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#10039 exposed a problem with the feature of man to index all
the 'man' and 'MAN' subdirectory it finds in the HOME and current
directory, when it is invoked.
Is this is consequence of your $MANPATH or is it in the man
Rob Browning wrote:
Should the default Debian home dir permissions be changed, should
ssh be modified, or what?
IMHO, group-writable home directories are a Bad Thing (TM), anyway.
They break just about any reasonable multi-user setup by default.
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Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can make ssh accept group writable home dirs by changing a line in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config:
StrictModes yes
needs to be changed to
StrictModes no
Unfortunately this also allows world writable home dirs. Group
writable home dirs are usually
On 26 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Oh, I see. Well, this stuff is then like a joke book, in
manual page format, and I think that humor should still fit in under
the doc category (If I remember correctly, that is where the
consensus was to place books like the bible or older books
Does anyone use real time Linux and/or a RS-485 bus under Linux?
Michael
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyway, the whole feature seems strange to me, because usually man
hierarchies are at the same level of binary dirs, not under them.
I agree; remove it completely. If it looked in a more sensible place for the
On May 26, 8:43am, Pete Templin wrote:
Let's be careful with 750...many webservers run equivalent to nobody.
It's not only problem with web servers. It's also problem with .plan,
.forward etc. Users will try to do sth., see it not working, ask admin,
and poor admin will have to answer...
751
On May 26, 1:36pm, Alexander Koch wrote:
But doesn't it belong to /usr/man, if it's in groff format?
Such pearls of wisdom need to be what they're done for... Showing up with
man...
I wrote it once, but it apparently went into wrong place :^)
We're not talking about the location in
I just spent an interesting afternoon trying to upgrade a 1.1 system
to 1.3.
First, /var/lib/dpkg/available was corrupted because of some
incorrect values in the Version - field (somehow they had gotten to
the format of 1:1-2 or similar; bug report submitted). I fixed
these by
Then, there were
Hi,
Alexander == Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Alexander Such pearls of wisdom need to be what they're done
Alexander for... Showing up with man...
Alexander Nobody will die because of that... Hopefully.
Fine, as long as the desciption field is clear that these
``manual
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Carey Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
adduser should
Thomas Koenig wrote:
I just spent an interesting afternoon trying to upgrade a 1.1 system
to 1.3.
First, /var/lib/dpkg/available was corrupted because of some
incorrect values in the Version - field (somehow they had gotten to
the format of 1:1-2 or similar; bug report submitted). I
Not sure this helps, but ...
I ran into a problem with compiling serial.o as a module.
At boot, I configure my serial ports using /boot/0setserial.
Unfortunately, when kerneld reloads serial.o, it
reinitializes the serial ports to a default setting which is
inconsistent with my hardware. Could
Galen Hazelwood wrote:
This is a legitimate version format. You failed to upgrade dpkg
before upgrading everything else. Fellow Debian developers, we
_really_ need to put up warnings that this needs to be done! Otherwise
innocent people will corrupt their systems by upgrading.
Maybe we
Hi,
People will probably have told you this, but the Packages file
was not corrupted, those 1:x.x.xx are critical (these are epochs),
and the problem actually is that the version of dpkg being used is
too old to understand epochs.
Why is this information (about the need to
hy.
AFAIK there is no manual, list or whatever of debian specific things.
so, what about moving all manpages that are debian related to have the
suffix debian ? this way anyone can go and say : ok, i know unix, and
i was using other distributions before. lets see how debian is doing
this and that
Andreas Jellinghaus:
Would someone mind if I add the following entry to the list of virtual
package names?
wish any package providing a wish
these packages might also help.
(tcl and tk cannot be used.)
I don't think wish is the right name. Unless you're familiar with tk (as
On Fri, 23 May 1997, David L. Johnson wrote:
Package: project
Version: 1.3 (?)
I installed, yesterday, what is supposed to become version 1.3. I got
this from ftp.debian.org, downloaded to create a local version on a disk
partition (my connection is via slip, so network installation is
Rob Browning:
I just got around to installing ssh so I could learn about it and
start using it, and I noticed that when I set up one of my machines
with a valid authorized_keys file and try to connect from another
machine, I get refused for RSA authentication, and ssh falls back on
passwords.
'J.H.M.Dassen wrote:'
On May 26, Manoj Srivastava wrote
Would the doc directory be better for man pages? Why games?
Check out the manpages at http://www.bofh.net/man/:
lart - Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool - use a lart to adjust lusers'
attitudes
sysadmin - responsible for
'Carey Evans wrote:'
I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
adduser should make home directories mode 755 (or 750)?
Or 751.
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At 12:33 PM 26/05/97 -0400, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
Not sure this helps, but ...
I ran into a problem with compiling serial.o as a module.
At boot, I configure my serial ports using /boot/0setserial.
Unfortunately, when kerneld reloads serial.o, it
reinitializes the serial ports to a default
Hi,
Do we have any policies regarding additional sytem installed
TeX/LaTeX styles and classes? For example, LaTeX2HTML has a bunch of
style files, which, when used in writing a document, give the author
more control over the rendition of their document into HTML, and it
would be nice
What we want is:
* `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
* `Delete' always deletes to the right.
* `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
We want this to be true for the console, for X, and even if you use
rlogin or telnet to get from one system to another.
On 23 May 1997, Milan Zamazal wrote:
I know nothing about runlevel standards, just my opinions:
Same here.
AK == Alexander Koch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AK: level 1 is without net, 2 is with it all (imo including nfs
AK: and the like) and 3 is xdm, 6 was shutdown or halt or
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: What we want is:
: * `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
: * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
: * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing STANDARD not screw up
Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Consider this another me too.
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Joey Hess wrote:
Andreas Jellinghaus:
Would someone mind if I add the following entry to the list of virtual
package names?
wishany package providing a wish
these packages might also help.
(tcl and tk cannot be used.)
I don't think wish is
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Me too! (I didn't know that such a simple solution is possible :-)
So what about the other keys? I suggest that all character keys, symbols,
etc. should produce the character that's printed on the key (this
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
hy.
AFAIK there is no manual, list or whatever of debian specific things.
so, what about moving all manpages that are debian related to have the
suffix debian ? this way anyone can go and say : ok, i know unix, and
i was using other
Christian Schwarz:
I don't think wish is the right name. Unless you're familiar with tk (as
opposed to just trying to get it installed), you may not know that the tk
interperter is named wish.
True. What about tcl-interpreter and tk-interpreter then?
Even I can understand those :-)
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But I always use dselect, and mysql package just doesnt show up no way
no how in the Packages file =( And I do have it using hamm/ etc.
Nothing but the most current. Could this be another case of the Packages
being out of sync with the actual files? If so, its a sync problem thats
lasted quite
Hi,
A jihad-buster ;-(. I agree with Ian, lets do it, as Jim
said.
Manoj
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Tom Lees wrote:
I'd like something similar to:
1: single user
2: multiuser with minimal networking, probably without offering services
3: full networking (NFS, xfs, anonymous ftp, ...)
4: xdm? (yes, it is common on Slackware and RedHat to start xdm
according to
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On Mon, 26 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
I agree 100% with what Ian says. (Let's do it)
Count a MeToo from here :-)
Nils
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On Mon, 26 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
6: reboot
7-9: do whatever the heck you want with.
BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6)
seems to be the standard in Linux boxen now, but why?
Vadik.
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Hello everybody,
On Sat, May 24 1997 11:40 +0200 Andreas Jellinghaus writes:
there are three tools : cfgtool (lars wirzenius), nod (winfried
truemper), dcfgtool (mine). and someone is working on a _real_ tool (all
three have flaws, and if this way we will get a tool with all good
features).
Why is this information (about the need to upgrade dpkg
*first*) not screaming out all over the web pages and the
installation README's? (pardon me if the information is in the
README's)
Perhaps dselect just needs to always update dpkg before calling
anything else? (dftp does
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps dselect just needs to always update dpkg before calling
anything else? (dftp does this)
In this case it wouldn't help as the Update breaks it.
Guy
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But I always use dselect, and mysql package just doesnt show up no way
no how in the Packages file =( And I do have it using hamm/ etc.
Nothing but the most current. Could this be another case of the Packages
being out of sync with the actual
Which installation method are you using in dselect? In think you have to
specify the directory debian/dists/unstable as base directory and select
distributions main, contrib, and non-free.
This would be nice, but the Packages files seem to be set up for /debian to
be the base directory.
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On May 26, Pete Templin wrote
On 26 May 1997, Carey Evans wrote:
I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
adduser should
On Mon, 26 May 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
On May 26, Pete Templin wrote
I've removed group write permissions from my home dir because of the
programs like qmail and ssh which don't like it. I don't think
anything would break because of removing these permissions, so maybe
Santiago Vila Doncel writes:
I have just installed a fresh system from scratch using the latest boot
floppies. At the end, I had a dangling symlink:
System.map - boot/System.map-
pointing to nowhere. No idea how this happened.
Don't know either. But it's been some time I wonder why
On May 26, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote
hy.
AFAIK there is no manual, list or whatever of debian specific things.
so, what about moving all manpages that are debian related to have the
suffix debian ? this way anyone can go and say : ok, i know unix, and
i was using other distributions before.
From: Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyway, the whole feature seems strange to me, because usually man
hierarchies are at the same level of binary dirs, not under them.
It doesn't make any sense. If it were implemented sensibly it would be
looking at path-element/../man .
I think the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What we want is:
* `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
* `Delete' always deletes to the right.
* `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as before.
We want this to be true for the console, for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
: What we want is:
: * `--' always deletes the character to the left of the cursor.
: * `Delete' always deletes to the right.
: * `Control'+`H' produces help in Emacs, as
On May 26, Sven Rudolph wrote:
Auf dem Linux-Kongress meintest du, dass es fuer Debian sinnvoll
waere, auf XFree86-3.3 zu warten.
Ich habe mal etwas rumgefragt; man scheint von der Idee nicht
besonders begeistert zu sein.
IMHO it would be very pitty not to use XFree86 3.3...
Insbesondere
Hi,
Christoph == Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christoph Emacs is one application. We want to use an existing
Christoph STANDARD not screw up one more. Emacs can be
Christoph adapted. Please do use existing standards for keyboard
Christoph layouts and character mapping!
Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Don't know either. But it's been some time I wonder why this link
isn't updated on boot to point to boot/System.map-`uname -r`, or
suppress the link and issue a warning if the latter is absent. This
would ensure correctness, I think.
That's not necesary
Say I discover a bug (for example in xlockmore) and it's the same bug
that's already been reported (10085). Does it make any sense for me to
report it again, so that the maintainer knows it is effecting more than
one person? It seems that this could be useful both as a way to encourage
the
For the convinience of non-German debian-devel readers I should have
asked my questions in English ...
Translated version follows.
Sven
Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On May 26, Sven Rudolph wrote:
At the Linux Congress you mentioned that it were a good idea
for
Hi,
I would really like to get into using CVS for my package
development tree, but I have been held back by the hassle of
releasing packages. I have no problems testing packages with
./debian/rules binary
and I always used dpkg-buildpackage for the last step, so I have
written a
Sam Ockman:
Say I discover a bug (for example in xlockmore) and it's the same bug
that's already been reported (10085). Does it make any sense for me to
report it again, so that the maintainer knows it is effecting more than
one person? It seems that this could be useful both as a way to
Hi,
If you just send a message to number@bugs.debian.org, the
package maintainer will get a mail message in the mailbox, and
any additional information you supply would go to the same place,
rather than be scattered to the four [why four?] winds.
So I would say, go right ahead
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think wish is the right name. Unless you're familiar with tk (as
opposed to just trying to get it installed), you may not know that the tk
interperter is named wish.
You don't need to. As a user, you install
BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6)
seems to be the standard in Linux boxen now, but why?
AFAIK, it is 6 for reboot since that is what most othe SysV-ish Unixen
use (like Irix and Solaris)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vadim Vygonets) wrote on 26.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
BTW, why does runlevel 6 mean reboot? Can't it be runlevel 9? It (6)
seems to be the standard in Linux boxen now, but why?
It's been standard in runlevel-based Unix for a long time. That's probably
because
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The credit should really go to Lars Wirzenius and Ian Jackson,
since this borrows from their work. If there is enough interest, I
could package this up. (Oh, this is a sh script, and only needs
dpkg-dev, no perl ;-)
Please do so. CVS is a
I think it covers everything; would you mind floating it before a
broader audience though (gnu.emacs.misc perhaps, if not also
comp.protocols.x.something?)
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