Debian still has to provide an upgrade path for users upgrading from Sarge.
We cannot blindly break users scripts.
Here, the only way seems to be putting an entry in NEWS.Debian (for
users script, ie things not under our control).
We did something similar with su but we did it earlier in the
Baurzhan Ismagulov wrote:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 02:21:13PM +0200, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
On 6/23/06, Volker Grabsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For instance, some programs with lots of calculations (e.g. mplayer)
are compiled with different processor optimizations (e.g. mplayer-i586).
Such
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:17:27AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
Scripsit Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If package maintainer wants to build it faster on their own machine, I
would imagine that checking for an environment variable (DEB_MAKE_OPTS
or something, perhaps?) and using that
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:17:27AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote:
If package maintainer wants to build it faster on their own machine, I
would imagine that checking for an environment variable (DEB_MAKE_OPTS
or something, perhaps?) and using that would be the way to go. By
default, build
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 07:02:15AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
Debian still has to provide an upgrade path for users upgrading from Sarge.
We cannot blindly break users scripts.
Here, the only way seems to be putting an entry in NEWS.Debian (for
users script, ie things not under our
Meep.
I have done some major work on mdadm in experimental, which is now
at version 2.5.2-1. I still have not received enough success reports
to make me comfortable enough to upload to unstable, so here's
another request for testing (or else etch will ship with 2.4.1).
I am 95% confident that
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Programming Lang: Python
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Adam Borowski wrote:
Let's allow maintainers to use make -jX according to their common
sense, requiring obeying an env variable to opt out.
Why not just have some ENV variable (CONCURRENCY_LEVEL?) which
specifies the maximum -j; the package maintainer is free to choose any
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 02:06:26AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Adam Borowski wrote:
Let's allow maintainers to use make -jX according to their common
sense, requiring obeying an env variable to opt out.
Why not just have some ENV variable (CONCURRENCY_LEVEL?) which
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 10:54:47PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Could you send me a copy of your bookmarks.html file privately?
Eric, was this reproducible?
Unfortunately it was very reproducible :( I'm not sure how to
proceed. Is anyone else using these patches that might be able
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On the other hand, making builds significantly faster is not
something that you can shake a stick at. Typically make -jX is faster
even on uniprocessor, and I don't need to tell you why it's much
faster on SMP.
Well, make -jX is
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 02:06:26AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
Why not just have some ENV variable (CONCURRENCY_LEVEL?) which
specifies the maximum -j; the package maintainer is free to choose any
level equal to or below that.
[...]
This has the disadvantage of not automatically using -j
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:10:45PM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 10:54:47PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Could you send me a copy of your bookmarks.html file privately?
Eric, was this reproducible?
Unfortunately it was very reproducible :( I'm not sure
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:44:50PM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:10:45PM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 10:54:47PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Could you send me a copy of your bookmarks.html file privately?
Eric, was this
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:38:51PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On the other hand, making builds significantly faster is not
something that you can shake a stick at. Typically make -jX is faster
even on uniprocessor, and I
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:46:59 +0200 David Härdeman wrote:
in debian-installer, there is a package - partman-auto-lvm - which
can setup an entire disk to be used for the debian installation with
the use of lvm for most partitions.
Currently it
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:25:20 +0200
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 02:08:57PM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:35:19 +0200
Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. There is snd-pcm-oss.ko, which provides working OSS sound, even if
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:38:51PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
I don't think it's good to define an opt-out variable (*_NON_PARALLEL).
Think positive! So, it would be better to define DEB_MAKE_PARALLEL, but even
better it would be to use something existing: CONCURRENCY_LEVEL as Don
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
Well, make -jX is not everywhere faster on UPs. It depends on other factors
as well. If you specify -j2 and the second make is causing lots of swapping,
you won't gain much if anything at all.
Exactly, just like I said: it
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:22:35PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
The benefits on UP are small (~10%), but except for huge working
sets, non-negative. And the maintainer knows if the package handles
huge chunks at once or not.
Hi again,
I am sorry, but there is a stupid, minor glitch in the
README.experimental file, which may lead to an unbootable system
with initramfs-tools 0.65.
The cause of the problem is the sed call:
sed -i -e 's,^PREREQ=\md\$,PREREQ=\mdadm\$,' \
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:01:31PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 02:06:26AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
This has the disadvantage of not automatically using -j for every
package and requiring maintainer buy in to see results... but
presumably those packages where it
Both sides in this discussion seem to have valid concerns:
FOR making --wildcard the default
- compatibility with upstream
- compatibility with standards
- compatibility with other distributions
- whatever reasons POSIX had for this were probably sensible
- upstream's judgement
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 09:22:45PM +0100, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm one of the small minority of people who have a very negative
opinion about gmail. I realise I'm a bit of a kook on this subject
and I'd ideally I'd like to avoid having an enormous
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:42:07PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
SMP buildd systems currently run multiple instances of buildd at
the same time, rather than expecting a package to specify make -j
itself. Having three packages that specify 'make -j 4' on a
multiprocessor buildd host that
ke, 2006-06-28 kello 18:43 +0200, Adam Borowski kirjoitti:
What do you think about going with Don Armstrong's suggestion
($CONCURRENCY_LEVEL), while handling the default (no env var) my
way (decent memory = parallel, little memory = -j 1) instead of
Ingo's (-j 1 unless explicitely set)?
I'm
Hi,
Thank $DEITY for testers. We discovered another issue when root is
on LVM is on RAID. If that's your setup, please hold off on using
mdadm 2.5 until I managed to fix #375879. Sorry for the
inconvenience, and again, thanks to Alec Berryman for his help. He
also spotted the last issue.
--
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 07:50:50PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
ke, 2006-06-28 kello 18:43 +0200, Adam Borowski kirjoitti:
What do you think about going with Don Armstrong's suggestion
($CONCURRENCY_LEVEL), while handling the default (no env var) my
way (decent memory = parallel, little
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 03:40:49PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
In that case just reverting the Debian change isn't the right way. If
you think that the change is wrong, then you should make upstream fix
it: changing behaviour of tar is one thing, but having different
behaviour of a basic
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On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 09:22:45PM +0100, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm one of the small minority of people who have a very negative
opinion about gmail. I realise I'm a bit of a kook on this subject
and I'd ideally I'd like to avoid having an enormous
On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 13:09 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
But on the other hand, according to the 'be strict in what you send,
liberal in what you accept' mantra, it makes sense for tar to not create
tarfiles which in the past have caused issues for certain programs while
there's a
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:36 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
Here, the only way seems to be putting an entry in NEWS.Debian (for
users script, ie things not under our control).
Good idea, Christian.
In addition, I would suggest we reinstate the previous behaviour, but
display a warning when
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 02:06:26AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Adam Borowski wrote:
Let's allow maintainers to use make -jX according to their common
sense, requiring obeying an env variable to opt out.
Why not just have
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