Re: how to deal with screwed up package

2005-11-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: I'm working on new package for FUSE[1]. Sad to come clean, but I screwed previous package(s) up. There are plenty of bugs wrt debconf questions and actions after them. There is also request[2] to simplify or even remove questions at all. Now

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20051214 meeting)

2005-12-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: use nameif. This has been suggested before but AIUI nameif has problems/limitations renaming eth0. Well, you just cant use existing names (this could be fixed, however i am not sure if this is needed) It

Re: Debian Installer team monthly meeting minutes (20051214 meeting)

2005-12-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Dec 19, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some reason we should be unable to provide a smooth upgrade path for users of sarge? Having your network devices scramble themselves on reboot is a Big Deal, whether or not it's in the release

Re: switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?

2005-12-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Steve Greenland wrote: On 20-Dec-05, 09:56 (CST), Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 08:57:08AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: [1] Dark blue on black. Need I say more? The reality is that visibility of color combinations is heavily dependent on

Re: switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?

2005-12-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Gabor Gombas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, if your terminal pretends to be xterm but does not use the color scheme of xterm, how should vim know that? You can't. real console: TERM='linux' xterm: TERM='xterm' gnome-terminal: TERM='xterm'

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:45:29PM -0500, Eric Cooper wrote: I saw today that the python-minimal package in unstable is tagged as Essential (and currently pulls in python2.3). According to policy, this is supposed to happen only after discussion on

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Michael Banck wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 01:28:07PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: I've changed the override to Priority: standard; I can't say I'm remotely impressed by how this has been handled. Could this be stopped, please

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Marco d'Itri wrote: Well, maybe the people who mislabeled the everything is software vote as an editorial change and deceived many other developers should have tought about this. There are two different definitions of the word software: 1. something that can be represented

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Can you explain that? Either the '{' and '}' are one indentation level down or the same indentation level. Hah! Not in GNU. The GNU coding standards want you to indent '{' and '}' x/2 spaces, while the code inside is indented x. So, the result is:

Re: Bug#358003: ITP: ttf-dzongkha -- TrueType fonts for Dzongkha language

2006-03-26 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Lars Wirzenius wrote: su, 2006-03-26 kello 04:11 -0600, Peter Samuelson kirjoitti: OTOH, if you have no idea what language or what country the font pertains to, why would you want that font? It is not inconceivable that one could stumble on a document from Bhutan, and

Re: security in testing

2003-05-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Chris Leishman wrote: On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 10:02 PM, Matt Zimmerman wrote: There is no shortage of opinions about what we should do, but there is unlikely to be any action until an I arises who actually does the work. This has been discussed over and over

Re: console mode(probally off)

2003-06-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: On Monday 02 June 2003 04:09, Luiz Rafael Culik Guimaraes wrote: How to start debian direct on console mode, Eh? I thought Debian always started in console mode unless you both installed xdm (or the gnome/kde equivalent) and enabled it.

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Bill Allombert wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:51:07AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: - drop the i386 support What we have not yet decided is whether we drop i386 support for C++ packages or for all packages. If we choose the former, the mini-i386 will just need to

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Stephen Stafford wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:25:52PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: What about perusing the INT 6 idea, and going all the way up to i686? While I support the removal of 386 support, I absolutely and strenuously object to going to 686. 686 isn't all

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, John Goerzen wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 03:28:02PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Note that my idea was about patching the kernel that so the newer opcodes would be emulated in software. Everything would still work even on a 386, just slower -- and the speed

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: Hmm... I'm not sure about this as the last time I used assembler was in the times of real mode DOS, but there is a yet another option: we can patch the kernel so when an invalid opcode occurs, whatever instruction was at CS:EIP gets emulated

Re: Application files in $HOME

2003-07-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Esteban Manchado Vel?zquez wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Now, if one removes or purges, say, KDE to install an unofficial version... would (s)he loose all his

Re: surfraw ultimatum

2003-07-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Thomas Smith wrote: On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 05:53 PM, I wrote: I strongly believe that this is an overreaction. Christian is willing to work with us to bring the package up to date, so there is no reason not to accept this. I suggest that someone (I could do

Re: [Fwd: False Representation at Google.com]

2003-09-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, 6 Sep 2003, Richard Braakman wrote: On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 05:12:35PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Ava Driscoll wrote: I do not appreciate the following showing up: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg01662.html That email was

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, George Danchev wrote: Why not? It's a package. We modify it as we need to in order to provide functionality and satisfy the needs of our users. I'm perfectly willing to bet that more of our users are interested in a functional ipsec stack than are interested in the

Bug#213361: ITP: kbtin -- A text-based MUD client

2003-09-29 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: kbtin Version : 1.0.5 Upstream Author : Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://kbtin.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Sponsor : Wanted Package : http://kbtin.sf.net/debian

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.09.28.0510 +0200]: For example, the grsecurity patch has had a history of conflicts with various patches in the Debian kernel source. Most of those patches that caused conflicts were in fact essential

Re: nethack popularity contest - number_pad?

2003-10-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Miles Bader wrote: BTW, another point is that the original layout is a fairly unique part of rogue culture, and shipping with it turned off seems a bit like using graphical tiles by default, or having emacs start up in wordpad- compatibility mode -- one can perhaps

Re: nethack popularity contest - number_pad?

2003-10-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Mark Brown wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:15:00AM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: Well, one problem I see with that immediately is that 'k' when number_pad is enabled means kick; if number_pad is off it means go up. Of course, we could disable k for kick and use ^D; but in

Re: Other nethack options

2003-10-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Lukas Geyer wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's trivial to reconfigure it in nethack's option screen, just like any other option. I'm not sure why this one should be special. hjkl is extremely newbie-unfriendly. Arrows require the player to manually turn

Re: Demudi.org

2003-12-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Andrea Glorioso wrote: t == Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: t One of the flavors linked to on t http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-nonprofit/ is www.demudi.org t -- t which is running IIS on Windows 2000! A little update. www.demudi.org now (wait for

Re: Results for Debian Project Leader 2006 Election Statistics

2006-04-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Option 3 Steve McIntyre Option 4 Anthony Towns Take a look at these numbers: Option 3 Reached quorum: 344 47.0531614240744 Option 4 Reached quorum: 339 47.0531614240744 Option 3 passes Majority. 6.491 (344/53) 1 Option 4 passes

Re: System users that receive mail in /var/mail/systemuser?

2006-04-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Noah Meyerhans wrote: Really? I get spam addressed to ftp, cyrus (the Cyrus IMAP system), postfix, apache, daemon, etc etc all the time. Those are very common user names, and (even better for the spammers) their mail is typically aliased to a group of people. They're

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Gabor Gombas wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 11:12:58AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: Result: programs run after ifrename (like ifupdown...) will get the old name. So what? The user deliberately asked for it. Also it seems easy to write an udev rule to replace

Re: Possible conflict with XFree 4.5

2006-04-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Gunnar Wolf wrote: gustavo halperin dijo [Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:40:42PM +0300]: I think that we have a problem when the common library between XFree and /usr/lib are update in /usr/lib. I assume that you're installing XFree86 4.5 by yourself, since it wasn't packaged

Re: Archiving bugs with version info (Was: Re: Closing a bug vs. tagging wontfix)

2006-04-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Otavio Salvador wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about oldstable while it is supported? IMHO, would be good to have a way to check the bugs affecting each release, so in the current interface we might have a link for: Filter bugs affecting: -

Bug#366482: ITP: dnscruft -- feeds Bind a list of domains as useful as doubleclick.com or less

2006-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name : dnscruft Version : 0.20060508-1 * URL : file://home/kilobyte/dnscruft/ Initial packages : http://angband.pl/debian/dnscruft/ Apt : deb[-src] http://angband.pl

Re: PDF files and dh_compress

2006-05-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Frank Küster wrote: Martin Wuertele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about compressing all generated pdf with eg pdftk instead of gzip? That would save on space without troubling potential readers. Most PDF files in Debian are already compressed; at least those which are

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:49:26PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: On the other hand, if we continue that thought process we could end up with all headers and libraries in /usr/share/, which is absurd. Why? This is exactly what's beautiful, especially if EVERYTHING ends up in /usr/share/ at one day,

Re: using /usr/bin/nologin instead of /bin/false in adduser?

2006-05-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 01:17:02PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Out of curiousity, what happens when someone tries to login and /usr is unavailable? If the shell is set to something in /bin, it will still be used. What is the default action when the user's shell is not available?

Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email

2006-05-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:58:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: The point is that they could if the wanted to. And if they did, it would work for _all_ programs, not just particular perl scripts that happen to use some obscure perl

Re: Making init scripts use dash

2006-05-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 10:18:46AM +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: There are anyway users using dash as /bin/sh right now and broken packages are bugged, so switching default should not reveal any new bug The policy says: # If a script requires non-POSIX features from the shell interpreter, the #

Re: Making init scripts use dash

2006-05-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 05:27:23PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: During some tests I've performed, I've found that making the init scripts run with dash as default shell instead of bash makes the boot time a 10% faster (6 seconds in a 60 second boot). This speed-up is not limited to

Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

2006-05-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 12:37:36PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Our Architecture: field is about the arches that Debian itself supports. If the meaning was broad as you describe, would we have to make sure our packages build on MS DOS? I'll agree with Josselin here: Debian is a GNU

Re: Bug#368371: ITP: gp2c -- PARI/GP GP to C compiler

2006-05-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:29:42AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 10:18:19PM +0200, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: IMHO, pari-gp-c or pari-gp2c could be better than 'gp2c' to avoid this namespace pollution, at your option. Good catch, I will consider this option. gp2c

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

2006-05-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:42:03PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 23 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow stated: To me it sounds like you are. You provide a shared object file in a public place so other people can link their binaries against it. What else is a shared library? Does it matter

Re: Red team attacks vs. cracking

2006-05-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 12:20:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Even the guy at 7-Eleven has the big book of north american ID cards with pictures and descriptions of what makes a real one for when they encounter an ID that they've never seen before. Surely Debian can do as well as the guy

Re: Real Life hits: need to give up packages for adoption

2006-05-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 09:29:34PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: * gnulib (easy pickings; need to package new Upstream from CVS, every month or so) I ported quite a lot of C software between IRIX/SunOS/AIX/Linux, so I'll take it. * tcng (some clean-up required) I have some idea about

Re: Red team attacks vs. cracking

2006-05-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:57:18PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 30 May 2006 13:02, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 12:20:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Even the guy at 7-Eleven has the big book of north american ID cards with pictures and descriptions of what makes

Re: LSB init scripts and multiple lines of output

2006-06-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 06:51:54PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: In my ideal world, this is what it would look like: Starting RAID devices ... /dev/md0 has been started with 3 drives. /dev/md1 has been started with 3 drives. /dev/md2 assembled from 2 drives - need all 3 to start it

Re: LSB init scripts and multiple lines of output

2006-06-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 02:36:15AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Adam Borowski wrote: The friend muttered something about Ubuntu being as flaky as Windows, then rebooted and started the installation anew... This is not an Ubuntu mailing list. It's pretty annoying to require all us d-i

Re: Software Patents

2006-06-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 10:24:45PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: One of the terrible effect of software patents is that nobody knows if his program infringe some of them in some country. And, as you said, i think it's impossible to be completely patent-free as things stand now. However,

Re: Hidden files

2006-06-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:02:23AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just as /etc/bashrc is not hidden, whereas ~/.bashrc is, *why* should any *system* files be hidden? IMO dotfiles are a historical artifact which we are stuck with. If we were just starting

Re: SUMMARY -- Generic handling of WORD, EXCEL, FILE MANGER ...

2006-06-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:38:52PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: * Jari Aalto+usenet [Thu, Jun 15 2006, 01:31:49PM]: x-word-processor x-spreadsheet x-file-manager x-archiver x-media-player or x-video-player x-media-editor

Re: Regexp to parse Version: fields

2006-06-21 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 01:56:21PM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: for mentors.debian.net I would like to find a perfect (TM) regular expression to split the Version: line of a control file into: - epoch - upstream version - Debian package revision My current attempt is:

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:17:27AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: If package maintainer wants to build it faster on their own machine, I would imagine that checking for an environment variable (DEB_MAKE_OPTS or something, perhaps?) and using that would be the way to go. By default, build

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 02:06:26AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Adam Borowski wrote: Let's allow maintainers to use make -jX according to their common sense, requiring obeying an env variable to opt out. Why not just have some ENV variable (CONCURRENCY_LEVEL?) which

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:38:51PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:31:54AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On the other hand, making builds significantly faster is not something that you can shake a stick at. Typically make -jX is faster even on uniprocessor, and I

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:38:51PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: I don't think it's good to define an opt-out variable (*_NON_PARALLEL). Think positive! So, it would be better to define DEB_MAKE_PARALLEL, but even better it would be to use something existing: CONCURRENCY_LEVEL as Don

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:22:35PM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 01:37:37PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: The benefits on UP are small (~10%), but except for huge working sets, non-negative. And the maintainer knows if the package handles huge chunks at once

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 03:42:07PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: SMP buildd systems currently run multiple instances of buildd at the same time, rather than expecting a package to specify make -j itself. Having three packages that specify 'make -j 4' on a multiprocessor buildd host that

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 07:50:50PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ke, 2006-06-28 kello 18:43 +0200, Adam Borowski kirjoitti: What do you think about going with Don Armstrong's suggestion ($CONCURRENCY_LEVEL), while handling the default (no env var) my way (decent memory = parallel, little

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:26:15AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still, the buildd admin has no way to estimate how much a sub-process of a package is going to use, the maintainer has at least a rough idea. Since the maintainer's action

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 08:41:33AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:22:48AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: The same can't be said for upstream makefiles though. Many sources don't build with -j option. Right, that's just what I said :p It's the upstream and the

Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-07-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 06:17:20PM -0400, Jason Spiro wrote: * Package name: openwatcom * License : Sybase Open Watcom Public License 1.0 (it is OSI-approved) Oops... it looks like OSI smoked something especially bad this time, I'm afraid. This license looks like someone took his

Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-07-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 01:10:34AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the moment you use openwatcom to compile any work-related piece of software (thus not Personal Use), you need to make the source of openwatcom publicly available for 12 months. What

Re: ITP: openwatcom -- C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient, portable code

2006-07-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 01:36:12AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: use, like, for example, compile a piece of software. You don't need to distribute openwatcom to anyone to fall within this clause. Ok, but it still needs to be modified. Are you

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Additionally, it puzzles me how you think a maintainer will be able to accurately predict how much RAM a certain build is going to use. There are so many variables, that I think anything but 'this is the fastest way to build it

Re: Using the SSL snakeoil certificate

2006-07-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 02:38:30PM +0200, Uwe A. P. Würdinger wrote: James Westby schrieb: An estimate of the pacakages that generate a certificate in postinst (lets hope there are none that include them in the package) I tried: $ grep-available -FDepends openssl -sPackage -n | sort Well

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:23:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 03:04:14PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Additionally, it puzzles me how you think a maintainer will be able to accurately predict how

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:57:54AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: Kevin Bube wrote: What about switching to dvdrtools? I think this project was started to solve the frequently recurring arguments about the licensing and the device adressing scheme cdrtools use. dvdrtools are currently in

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 02:28:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: Updating with pdiffs took one minute nine seconds while downloading a completely new set of list files took eight seconds. Test environment was quite unfair though (an old machine with an 1200 MHz CPU and a single, slow disk on an

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 03:34:59PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Err, AIUI, ruby gems are a way to automatically install extras to a running ruby environment, much in the same way that the CPAN module is used for Perl. I fail to see why this would be completely useless on smaller

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
BCONCURRENCY_LEVEL appropiately; to 1 if you want to disable any parallelism altogether. =head1 SEE ALSO Lmake(1) =head1 AUTHOR Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] =cut #Leaving no output would lead to bare -j, that is, -j INFINITY. sub die_1($) { print 1\n unless -t STDOUT; die concurrenct-helper

Re: Long blurbs repeated in many package descriptions considered harmful

2006-07-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 02:18:19PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: For example, the pike blurb could be summarised with something like: Pike is an interpreted, object-oriented, dynamic programming language with a syntax similar to C. To learn more about pike, see the package pike7.6 or

Re: greylisting on debian.org?

2006-07-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 05:57:45PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Monday 10 July 2006 02:17, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:02:39PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Another problem is with hosts that do not accept a message from an MTA unless that MTA is willing

Bug#377939: ITP: vtgamma -- gamma correction for Linux console

2006-07-11 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: vtgamma Upstream Author : myself * URL : http://angband.pl/viewvc/vtgamma/trunk/ * License : Public Domain Description : gamma correction for Linux console This tool can apply

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: Joerg clearly stands that: 1) Makefiles != scripts or at least it is unclear whether Makefiles may be called scripts: GPL §3 requires the scripts for compilation to be provided but as a first note, it is unclear whether

Re: Getting the buildds to notice new architectures in a package

2006-07-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 10:55:32PM +0200, Ludovic Brenta wrote: I will upload ~20 source packages in the next few weeks, adding support for more architectures to each package. So I'm really looking for a general solution and not one that only applies to asis. Why aren't those packages

Re: ITP: gzrt -- gzip recovery toolkit

2006-07-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 10:11:41AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 13:14 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: I will drop the version from the description and add cpio to the suggests. I added the suggestion to the description because I guess that .tar.gz will be the most

Re: greylisting on debian.org?

2006-07-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:42:22PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: And finally, if we don't care about standards conformance, I have said that a good second-best is to document exactly what our requirements are, rather than burying them in

Bug#378746: ITP: chameleon-cursor-theme -- a modern but not gaudy X11 mouse theme

2006-07-18 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: chameleon-cursor-theme [1] Version : 0.5-1 Upstream Author : Giuseppe Benigno ebengio (at) gmail.com * URL : http://www.{gnome,kde,xfce[2]}-look.org/content/show.php?content=38459

Re: Getting rid of circular dependencies, stage 5

2006-07-26 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:41:37PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Ian Jackson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060726 13:18]: But, for example, foo -Depends- foo-data is not usually an example of a silly dependency. Actually, there is no reason why

Re: RFC: ssl-cert2 design

2006-07-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 10:03:13AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: pe, 2006-07-28 kello 00:03 +0100, James Westby kirjoitti: * Make it easier for package maintainers - One extra dh_ call and maybe one more file in debian/ How badly is this tied to debhelper? Any chance of designing it

Re: Bug#380388: ITP: toga2 -- computer chess engine, calculates chess moves

2006-07-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 01:01:56PM +0200, oliver wrote: At Saturday 29 July 2006 22:15 wrote Henning Makholm: Scripsit Oliver Korff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : computer chess engine, calculates chess moves We seem to have several such engines already. Could the description

Re: release update: freeze, RC Bug count, python, toolchain

2006-08-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:45:46PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Full IPv6 support = There has been some confusion about the Etch release goal about IPv6. Our understanding of that release goal is that all network applications should be able to work with both IPv4 and IPv6.

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:56:01PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: The inetd daemon installed by default: etch: openbsd-inetd | netkit-inetd sarge: netkit-inetd woody: netkit-inetd (netkit-base, split from netbase) potato: (in netbase) slink: (in netbase) Users

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:29:48AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 10, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Some inetds automatically listen on v6, whereas others need it I call them broken. I believe that administrators do not expect that services are exposed to IPv6 connections unless

Re: Status of inetd for etch

2006-08-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 01:34:39AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Aug 11, Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why, for the love of Cthulhu, does netbase depend on inetd in the first place? Let's see: Historical reasons. Now, let's see what depends on *-inetd: Under the current rules

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?- [was: dak now supports ~ in version numbers]

2006-08-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 08:30:45AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Michael Biebl [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.08.11.0012 +0100]: 1.) Wait for a 0.10 release. I think my users wouldn't be happy ;-) Why not continue to current versioning scheme until 0.10 is out to avoid the epoch? Yeah

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?-

2006-08-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 07:17:43AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: . is not special as far as version numbers are concerned. It's not a separator, for instance, and 1. is a valid version number (which is equal to 1.0). Uhm, where does the 0 come from? This is grossly unintuitive, and I would

Re: dpkg doing wrong math (0.09 = 0.9) ?-

2006-08-11 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 09:47:33AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.08.11.0931 +0100]: And another bug: 2a.0 is _lesser_ than 2.0! This works as documented, but is totally against lexicography, expectations and common sense. I'll shoot

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Erast Benson wrote: Let me enlighten you in regards of CDDL benefits. The great thing about CDDL is that it is file based. So, all files which are licensed under CDDL-terms works exactly as GPL does. i.e. any change made by anybody (including propriatery distributors) *must*

Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program

2005-11-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Matthew Garrett wrote: Debian scales fine on non-glibc ports. It doesn't do so well on non-GPL compatible ports. These are very much not the same thing. In fact, Debian and GPL software in general work just fine on non-GPL compatible platforms. I use and distribute (even

Re: per-user temp directories by default?

2005-11-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Lars Wirzenius wrote: I don't think the suggestion was to make TMP=~/tmp, but TMP=/tmp/$USER, where /tmp/$USER is owned by the user in question and is inaccessible to others. It would be a lot better to use TMP=/tmp/users/$USER, as user names are pretty likely to clash

Bug#299771: ITP: ttf-antp -- Antykwa Poltawskiego font family

2005-03-16 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adam Borowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: ttf-antp Version : 0.51 Upstream Author : Bogus³aw Jackowski, Janusz M. Nowacki and Piotr Strzelczyk * URL : http://www.janusz.nowacki.strefa.pl/poltawski-e.html * License

Re: Bug#299771: ITP: ttf-antp -- Antykwa Poltawskiego font family

2005-03-16 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Frank Küster wrote: Miros/law Baran [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The font is included in the tetex-base package, along with other Type1 GUST-sponsored fonts (Antykwa Toru?ska etc.) - I think such a package will be redundant. Well, tetex-base only has the afm and pfb

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 09:57:13AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:07:29PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: Every relevant Linux distribution requires udev, and so do many important features of Debian systems. Anything not compatible with udev is a toy which wastes space

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:14:53PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 20, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: trouble for embedded or limited ones. I don't do embedded personally so I have no idea how udev fares there, but I can tell you that vservers and udev don't go well together

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:03:32PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 20, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: They have their specific needs, and the last time I checked, udev couldn't fulfill them. You need just /dev/{null,zero,full,random,urandom,tty,ptmx} and the links to /proc

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 02:37:44PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 20, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: You keep missing the point. udev matters in the host system, not in each context. Do you mean the original point of this thread, about ifrename (which indeed can't be used

Re: Request for Comments: Standardize enabling/disabling of system services

2009-04-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 05:03:27PM +0200, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: the question: Shall a service started once its installed or not? The current state of affairs is that some packages start after beeing installed, some don't, because they don't have a reasonable default configuration and some

Re: Bug#523794: ITP: php-version-control-svn -- wrapper interface for the Subversion command-line client

2009-04-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:00:57PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Philipp Kern wrote: I also found svn to be not Ctrl-C-able at time. I don't know if that applies to other signals too but if so I can imagine quite some hanging processes on a server. Ack - I know this problem too well.

Re: The wider implications of dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 03:14:15AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Roger Leigh schrieb: If you run a current unstable system, with a default (empty) xorg.conf this disables C-A-Fn and C-A-Bksp to switch to a virtual terminal or kill a dead X server. I noticed that if you C-A-Bksp

Re: Comments on the Changing the default system shell talk

2009-07-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:07:05AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: You think the average user doesn't care about getting 50% faster boot speeds? I don't get why you people keep repeating that it's only about faster boots. All shell scripts receive a speed boost. -- 1KB // Microsoft

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