Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-17 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Jun 16, 1998 at 11:49:25PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I found out there is no resolv.conf (duh I know..that gets created by a script when I configure the network...which obviously never happens) I also found out that I hafta do a chroot . bash --login once to get it to

Re: removal of dhcp-beta?

1998-06-17 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 10:55:26AM -0400, Brian White wrote: There is a bug against dhcp-client-beta that is causing it to be removed from Hamm. Should all dhcp-beta packages be removed or is omitting just this one okay? I need to know asap. Thanks. dhcp-client-beta is seriously broken,

Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-18 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 01:23:42AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could copy /etc/resolv.conf and other config files out of the server's etc directory. Most of that should be correct (though you'll have to do something special for 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' obviously). yes

Re: JED anyone?

1998-06-23 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 05:20:09PM +0200, Milan Zamazal wrote: `jed' is an orphaned package. I'm considering to take its maintanence, since I've found JED is a small and quick start editor, good for quick editing of configuration files, etc. (I've wiped out all vis from my disk, and ae+ed do

Re: Gothenburg - Vancouver

1998-06-24 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 05:06:06PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Wildly off topic ... isn't The Wave cable modem access? Hmmm... You really got me there... I have been lead to beleve it's xDSL, but I'm not sure... Anyone? It's cable modem, and it's REALLY fast (about 400kbits/sec, full

netselect - choosing the best FTP server automatically

1998-06-25 Thread Avery Pennarun
Hi all, A while ago on debian-devel I proposed an algorithm that would allow APT to choose the best possible server for each user from a large list automatically. It could also be used for other tasks, eg. choosing a good SQUID neighbour or IRC server. So, I wrote a program that gathers the

Re: Isn't cc the default compiler?

1998-06-25 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 10:24:02AM +0200, Brederlow wrote: I compiled a lot of packages on my system and often I see that programms don't use cc as their compiler. Thus they don't use /etc/alternatives/cc. Unless somebody tells me a good reason for not using cc I will open bugs against any

Re: in.tftpd: Missing a critical feature

1998-06-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 06:38:56PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: Package: netstd Version: 3.07-1 The bug number for this report hasn't shown up in the web pages yet, so I'm removing bugs.debian.org from the cc: list in this response. You might want to forward it into the bug report. Sun's

Re: netselect - choosing the best FTP server automatically

1998-06-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 09:18:24PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Avery Pennarun wrote: [netselect http://www.worldvisions.ca/~apenwarr/netselect-0.1.tar.gz] This is pretty good, but it seems to loose much meaning for me with several equal servers, ftp1.us.debian.org

Re: Canada to remain mostly free

1998-10-03 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 10:35:54AM -0400, Greg Stark wrote: Manley announced new crypto policies, and though the speech is low on detail, despite being particularly long-winded, it seems Canada may remain in the free world. Very cool. It looks like they've really listened to the industry's

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:11:10PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:05:17PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: No, this would hold the release for at least two more months. Joey, that's exaggerated by a lot. But I agree with your reasoning- I agree with Joey completely,

Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!

1998-10-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 02:34:28PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Quoting Avery Pennarun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Slink is a badly-needed cleanup release. Don't hold it back for any package. I still think that calling slink a badly needed cleanup implies that hamm is horribly broken. I

Re: Bug#27697: auto-include-dependency failure case

1998-10-13 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:47:14PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: What I have been doing of late is generating the .d file when the .o file is built. Nothing depends on the .d file but if it exists it is included. This makes the .o file depend on all included files and the .c file

Re: latest sysklogd broken?

1998-10-16 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:12:52AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: What do you mean by break? If you restart syslogd you have to restart some other programs as well (squid, teergrube, inn, named come to my mind.) Can you explain this? This doesn't sound very normal to me. Sure.

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-16 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 06:48:24PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Enrique Zanardi wrote: Are we going to include apt in the base system? Its package ordering feature (and a few others) obsoletes the other methods, but currently apt doesn't work with mountable media. A multi-cdrom-apt

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-16 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 11:39:28AM -0700, David Welton wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: What would you like to see on the first CD? Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? Some Perl/Python type person ought to be able to

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-19 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 06:18:09AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: How do we determine what's important, and what's optional ? Some people already mentioned that we need to distinguish between certain packgages. I propose: [...] I think we should play a simple game of numbers, and I think

Re: 1FA: problem still in hamm disks

1998-10-19 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 09:49:54AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Quoting Tom Lees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): While I'm at it, *PLEASE* drop the dependency of lilo on mbr. I don't want a new mbr eg if I want to install LILO to use on a floppy ONLY (I use GRUB on my HD). Change it to Recommends. mbr

Re: Netscape packages and lesstif

1998-10-19 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 06:34:40AM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote: The dmotif netscape packages seem to depend on lesstif, does this mean you can run them with just lesstif? Or is that in addition to requiring real Motif libraries? I'm surprised (but happily so) since i thought lesstif aimed

Re: make mutt the `standard' mail reader

1999-01-19 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 05:38:32PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 08:57:07PM -0500, Avery Pennarun wrote: The de-facto standard Internet tab size has always been 8 characters. Always? The 1982 standard for ARPANETĀ¹ email (RFC 822) explicitly states in Section

Re: Bug#27050 (fdutils): A cause for security concern?

1999-01-19 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 04:43:37PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 02:29:44PM -0700, Anthony Fok wrote: As the Slink deep freeze and release are impending, I would like to ask your advice: Should I follow the suggestion given by the bug reporter Thomas Roessler? If so,

Re: Bug#27050 (fdutils): A cause for security concern?

1999-01-20 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 08:56:11PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Avery Pennarun wrote: When the docs for a setuid program warn you not to trust its security then be afraid, be very afraid. It shouldn't be automatically setuid in Debian until _some_ security-conscious person has audited

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-23 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 03:18:51PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: Still, it is advisable to install the renamed versions of these packages as soon as is convenient, in the event that their contents do change in the future. This would just postpone the problem until there is a real

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-23 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 12:03:55PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Avery Pennarun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it's such a widespread problem, we can assume that Debian 2.2's version of APT will support package renaming in some way. That means we can actually put off solving this problem

Re: Debian logo its license

1999-01-24 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 07:48:00PM -0600, Stephen Crowley wrote: On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 04:21:37PM -0800, Chris Waters wrote: Debian is a free project to distribute a free OS. It should have a free logo. FREE THE LOGO!! FREE THE LOGO!! :-) And what if some anti-debian people get

Re: filters: Licence problems

1999-01-25 Thread Avery Pennarun
My answer to exercise 1: since you have quoted text, rule (2) says you must not comply with rule (6), but rule (3) says you must comply with all even rules (including, presumably, 6). This seems to imply that no message containing quotations would be allowed. I'm not sure if that's only true

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 02:18:56PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: You have yet to explain what will BREAK if people continue to use the old font packages. Not in the future, RIGHT NOW. Oh, you have yet to explain why a clock bomb is *not* a bad

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 09:11:47PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and another,

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 04:40:35PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: But is that specific problem Debian/slink related..? That is, does it work correctly with potato? No, it does not work correctly with potato either. It seems to be a

Re: Intent to package xfntbase, xfnt75, etc.

1999-01-28 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 08:43:30PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: * There should be some better way. Fine. Which one? Is there a way to have a dpkg --set-selections call lurk in the background until the current dpkg process ends, like update-menus does now? That would be a far

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-28 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 08:13:30PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't think so small. Some of us run quite big machines on Debian; my workstation/server at work has ~300MB of swap configured from ~25GB of disk. 128 MB of swap is _not_

Re: Call for mascot! :-) -- flying pigs

1999-01-28 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 01:35:24PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: I mean, how often do you see an Octopus flying across the sky? I can honestly say that I'm more likely to see an octopus fly across the sky than a dragon. I don't think so - Octopi can't fly! (Unless they flap their arms

PGP signers in Waterloo or Montreal?

1997-12-10 Thread Avery Pennarun
Hi all, sorry to bother you all with this. In order to register as a debian developer I need to do one of several things; the most convenient one is to get my PGP key signed by an existing developer. If any registered developers are near Waterloo, Ontario or Montreal, Quebec I would appreciate

Re: news gateways

1997-12-14 Thread Avery Pennarun
On 14 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does this mean we shouldn't include the list addresses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in our web pages? If so, I guess I have to fix some pages... I don't have a problem with the list addresses being in the WWW pages.

WvDial 0.1 available as a Debian package

1997-12-14 Thread Avery Pennarun
it? === The WvDial 0.1 release is available both as source code and as a Debian package. You can get either or both from our web page: http://www.worldvisions.ca/wvdial/ Credits === WvDial and its supporting libraries were written by Dave Coombs and Avery Pennarun of Worldvisions

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-15 Thread Avery Pennarun
This would be helpful for my new wvdial package as well -- from a user interface standpoint, I would like to have a way for pppd to call me back once we're properly connected. Avery On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Adam P. Harris wrote: Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, but I

Re: Debian Administration tool

1997-12-16 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Brian Bassett wrote: I recently switched to Debian from RedHat 4.2 and the one thing that I think that Debian could really use is an administration tool. Thus, I've decided to try and write such a tool. I've set up a webpage (http://www.butterfly.ml.org/debadmin/) and

Re: options for menu packages

1997-12-17 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Adrian Bridgett wrote: /usr/X11R6/bin/pppload -i 2 -p 10 [...] /usr/X11R6/bin/pppload $(tail -n +2 /etc/pppload) [...] /usr/X11R6/bin/pppload \ $(grep -v ^\# \ $(if [ -r ~/.pppload ]; then \ echo ~/.pppload; \ else \ echo

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-08 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Apr 07, 1998 at 07:18:33AM -0400, Gregory S. Stark wrote: Anyway, I remember a Slackware trick to set the default prompt for many different shells. Could not we do the same? Am I the only one who thinks the only correct prompts would be '$ ' and '# '? I hope so. I know prompts

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Steve Greenland wrote: BTW, in Debian, fclose says it returns an error, and does not mention corrupting memory. ERRORS EBADF The argument stream is not an open stream. The fclose function may also fail and set errno for any of the

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-12 Thread Avery Pennarun
The point here is that it's _documented_ to return EBADF if the stream pointer is not an open stream, and that's not what happens. This is difficult to enforce in practice, and is not necessary for ISO compliance -- so let's fix the man page. Nope, you're reading that backwards. It

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-12 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: The point here is that it's _documented_ to return EBADF if the stream pointer is not an open stream, and that's not what happens. This is difficult to enforce in practice, and is not necessary for ISO compliance -- so let's fix the man page.

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-13 Thread Avery Pennarun
On 12 Apr 1998, Gregory S. Stark wrote: Yes, it would be quite difficult to do efficently. There's no good way to tell that the pointer you're passing is _really_ a FILE* pointer. Once it's closed, the pointer's value is meaningless. One cheap solution which will usually work is to put

Re: bzip2 for source packages?

1998-04-19 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 05:20:39PM +0200, Sven Rudolph wrote: IMHO the pristine property is more importent than the compression ratio. If a choice between pristine gzipped and re-compressed bzip2ed has to be made, I'd vote for the pristine way. Could someone explain to me why it's so

Re: Licensing, was elvis package

1998-04-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 09:52:32AM +0300, Shaya Potter wrote: Probably because it's allowed, doesn't the FSF distribute emacs linked or with the ability to link out of the box against Motif? linked or with the ability to be linked -- perhaps that's the critical difference. I don't think FSF

Re: Licensing, was elvis package

1998-04-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 09:06:56AM -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote: Linking with Motif of GPL'd software only allowed on operating systems which get shipped with Motif as an essential part of it (like Solaris). Which means that linking with Motif on Linux is not allowed. (I asked RMS directly

Re: base-files etc.

1998-04-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:46:58PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Ok, trying to be conservative, I have changed the default prompt for root from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' to '\h:\w\$ ' in base-files_1.9. I would really like to see something like '\h:\w\$ ' (or '\w\$ ' at least) in

bash prompt strings again (was Re: base-files etc.)

1998-04-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 03:34:01PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Avery Pennarun wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:46:58PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Ok, trying to be conservative, I have changed the default prompt for root from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' to '\h:\w

Re: bash prompt strings again (was Re: base-files etc.)

1998-04-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 12:11:55PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Avery Pennarun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: environment variables, I know. Maybe the right thing to do is modify bash itself to _default_ to the right prompt. bash$ is just useless, after all. Excellent idea. Just try to keep

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-20 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 01:20:10PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp - determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL. We should do this in slink. That way

Re: binary-CD exceeds 650 MB -- any solution?

1998-04-21 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 12:01:32AM -0700, Guy Maor wrote: The sizes are: 62997 contrib/binary-i386 326744 main/binary-i386 65237 non-free/binary-i386 31849 main/disks-i386 86526 contrib/source 690239 main/source 148075 non-free/source Since the official CD doesn't include

Re: Boot Dependancies - a weird wacky wonderful new idea

1998-06-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Wed, Jun 10, 1998 at 07:57:18PM -0700, Robert Woodcock wrote: Parallelized booting. What this means is we run multiple bootup scripts simultaneously. It's a *lot* faster on mid-to-higher-end machines, even with just one CPU - it'd be wickedly fast with SMP. Hey wait a second that won't

Re: Bootint big kernels

1998-06-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Thu, Jun 11, 1998 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: The problem is that the Debian installation kernel tries to be all things to all people. As there are machines that boot from SCSI drives, it was necessary to have all the scsi controlers built in to the kernel, hense its large