should try rebuilding them, and
if you can patch the brokenness, submit the patch to bug 342892.
Phew. Thanks for dropping this note. The package I was working on
suddenly stopped building yesterday and I'd thought I'd lost my mind.
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-level directories, but moving it
under /lib doesn't really make sense. It more surprising and less
consistent to have it under /lib.
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of their mouths
either make fun of Debian, or make fun of me (*snif*).
Now we don't necessarily have to pander to these people, but this
change is the sort of thing that will help the change perception of
Debian for people who think we're a bunch of crazies.
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. Again, I think it would do a good job keeping
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Cheers,
Frans
AFAIK Launchpad is not free software, so it's not going to happen.
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on the user's locale. This package sets Firefox
bidi.browser.ui option to true.
This seems a crazy thing to have an entire package for. Let's see if
we can come up with a better solution.
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, you are still required to
notify the maintainer via BTS before uploading. And of course, you
need to take care of anything you broke by your NMU.
So if they didn't notify you through the BTS and/or the bugs were open
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to /etc/apt/source.list .
This has probably been covered ad nauseum, but where do we stand in
respect to getting mplayer in Debian?
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, they get to set the
direction of the project. No sense bitching about that, just get more
people to vote.
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blessed can turn on the ask for review flag.
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* Martin Michlmayr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
* Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-21 10:34]:
get this in. I can confirm that the patch in our firefox works -
at least firefox starts and loads the Debian homepage. I'll play
some more with it later.
If I recall correctly, only
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: freedroidrpg
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*
, if there's no objections.
PS Many people have sent bug reports over the last few months and I
tried to fix as many as I could remember, but I didn't actually look
through my mail archive. So if I said I would fix your issue and I
didn't, please drop me another note.
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* Grzegorz B. Prokopski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
W li?cie z wto, 20-05-2003, godz. 05:52, Eric Dorland pisze:
Hi Everyone,
From the amount of mail I've gotten I guess people will be
interested. I've uploaded mozilla-firebird_0.6-1 to my personal apt
repository at http
* Brian Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Everyone,
From the amount of mail I've gotten I guess people will be
interested. I've uploaded mozilla-firebird_0.6-1 to my personal apt
repository at http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/. Just add
. Does anybody else experience
this? Any hints on diagnosing?
been there, done that.
there were some files in /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/chrome which were not
world readable. look for suspicious strace output.
Andreas
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* Package name: irqbalance
Version : 0.6
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Description
.
Is there any other reason why we would still need to use automake's
dependency tracking anyway?
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if there was a place to discuss such matters.
Looking forward to any comments opinions,
I'm very much in favor of such a list, but it would be best if Takuo
and other leading mozilla packagers wanted such a thing as well.
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get
it into sarge then I will certainly make a 0.9.3 release to address
it's issues.
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Fedora, what makes you think so?
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a few changes (don't worry, if
anything you should have to remove things). Stay tuned.
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Yes it does, that's where I stole the idea/code from :)
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Will Debian package such?
And what would the advantage be over using mozilla? The gecko engine
is the same, in fact mozilla tends to have a newer gecko engine than
firefox. I mean this could be done, but if it doesn't actually confer
any advantages why bother? And I can't think of any.
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* William Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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And what would the advantage be over using mozilla? The gecko engine
is the same, in fact mozilla tends to have a newer gecko engine than
firefox. I mean this could be done
an rpm for
gtkmozembed-firefox so somebody else at least is doing it
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* William Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 12:08:03PM -0500, Eric Dorland wrote:
* William Ballard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 08:44:05AM +0100, Norbert Tretkowski wrote:
mozilla-dev depends on mozilla-browser, but not mozilla
not acceptable,
[snip]
It is not at all obvious in fact. The bible and the anarchist FAQ have
probably caused more direct damage to the world. Please don't project
your morality on the project.
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of the last 14 days, but also keep one
snapshot per month of the last 12 months. The used network bandwidth can
also be limited to avoid affecting production systems.
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? dh_movefiles has been superseded by dh_install.
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* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
* Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hi,
dh_movefiles internally uses tar to move file contents. I'm not sure why
it doesn't use mv, is it because mv moves the file block-by-block and
thus starts
is reinserted...
o Permissions, how are these handled when the key moves between systems
where my userid might differ?
o Other issues?
It would be very interesting to hear how others manage this...
Kind regards,
David
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/234134
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broken. This one
would be very difficult to handle in most cases... new version could
introduce new bugs, and backports could be really tough.
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in /usr/lib.
I consider rubygem as package similar to wget. I don't expect dpkg -P wget
to remove files i have downloaded when i typed:
wget -O /usr/local/somefile http://some/url
What do you think about that ?
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Thanks very much Jeroen.
Should I file a bug somewhere about this? Clearly I hit a corner case
that dak doesn't handle quite right.
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and adding a dfsg to the version. While the
documentation removal is probably some of the most intrusive
DFSG-izing to date, I don't see why the dfsg in the version number is
somehow worse than in the source package name.
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the package meet the
DFSG.
Sorry, that string in the upstream version does not convey
that to me at all. It makes me think that larsi released a second
version compatible of the DFSG.
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? Ideally, they should go away as
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(that we know of
anyway) and while not signing his key because of this is reasonable, or
even revoking a signature which had been based on this ID, the constant
inflammatory claims of Martin being a 'cracker' and how this could lead
to other 'cracks' is extreme, insulting, and childish.
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maintainers / mentorship; some of the others do need some
work.
* gnupg2
(some clean-up work)
I'd like to take this, as it ties into some of my work packaging
OpenSC quite nicely.
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with dxpc running
on older systems.
That information is a very good candidate for a NEWS.Debian file.
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* Martin Spoehrle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:34:55PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Please test these packages! There was quite a lot of code change in
some of these patches, and the more users we have to test the sooner
we can resolve any problems before
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James R. Van Zandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* Artur R. Czechowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hi Eric,
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 07:11:14PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
automake1.4: This is the old school package, that's been completely
unsupported for a number of years (since 2002). It certainly not used
with any new software and any
* Alexander Sack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 06:25:36PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Martin Spoehrle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:34:55PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Please test these packages! There was quite a lot of code change
* Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in
improving the automake situation in Ubuntu and Debian[0].
[0] Their plan, which mirrors mine, is documented here
* Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 19:37 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested
* James Westby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On (29/06/06 19:37), Eric Dorland wrote:
* Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in
improving the automake
the GPL. I don't really see why that's
relevant...)
Just to point out that as of Firefox/Thunderbird 2 the entire codebase
is triple licensed under the MPL, GPL and LGPL and any objection to
the MPL as far as Mozilla is concerned is fairly academic at this
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Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to point out that as of Firefox/Thunderbird 2 the entire codebase
is triple licensed under the MPL, GPL and LGPL and any objection to
the MPL as far as Mozilla is concerned is fairly academic
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 12:47:32AM -0400, Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to point out that as of Firefox/Thunderbird 2 the entire codebase
, etc files, if they're problematic
license-wise, we'd need to strip them out or get the license fixed.
I'm going to contact Gerv about that.
Fantastic.
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* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 03:58:13PM -0400, Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Some examples and test files are licensed under Mozilla-sample-code.
Uh, is that actually a license?
Yes it is:
BEGIN LICENSE BLOCK
Version: Mozilla-sample
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: jrpg
Version : 20060524-2151
Upstream Author : Tomasz Wegrzanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://www.example.org/
* License : mostly GPL, but will go in non-free because
* Matthew R. Dempsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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* URL : http://www.example.org/
Does this package not have an actual web site?
Sorry, http://www.zabor.org/jrpg/
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a hack to
manage your patches when you could use a real VC tool that does it
better?
Amen to that. (although I use svn)
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Is this one better or worse than pangzero?
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a patch to remove the
documentation cleanly, I'll try to get it all sorted out over the
weekend.
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* Package name: blktool
Version : 4
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blktool is used
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http://lyre.mit.edu/%7Epowell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg
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on the entered string does not, suggests
there is room for improvement in the auto-searching feature...
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. It should be removed from lintian.
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support the most
recent version, which will be different about one month after the sarge
release).
I'm willing to try for firefox, but I'll admit that in some cases it
may be impossible/too much work.
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of the virtual packages mentioned in the policy. I will wait a
few days before doing any more steps in this regard.
Been a while since I've done anything Schemey, but this looks like a
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integrated into their own weltanschauung.)
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* Eric Dorland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always
bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is generally a
bad thing. You should just run automake and/or autoconf on the
unpacked source and ship it in the .diff.gz
* Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:49:22PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Eric Dorland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always
bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which
* Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:26PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always
bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is generally a
bad thing. You should just run
* Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
* Eric Dorland
[Substituting your fixed sentence in the text below]
| I think a build-dependency on automake and autoconf is almost always
| a bad idea. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is
| generally a bad thing. You should just
* Robert Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 03:33 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Because we want to test for buildability. We want to make it possible
to change any part of the program and barring real errors, it should
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 10:30:56AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Robert Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
So either you don't patch the package, or you be willing to require the
relevant auto* be installed.
Or you put the patch
* Philipp Kern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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Eric Dorland wrote:
Yes, they are necessary tools for developers. But nearly ever project
I've ever seen ships the files generated from the auto* tools.
However I feel the use of a build-dependency
to
hijack the abandoned libhtml-mason-perl package.
Any feedback/advise would be appreciated.
I'm pretty interested in this package as well, and I'm willing to
sponsor you.
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to
get a different perspective).
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* Julien BLACHE ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, the Mozilla Foundation is willing to give us permission to use
the marks, but only to Debian specifically. To me, this feels like a
violation (at least in spirit) of DFSG #8. It's now nearly six months
to apply security patches and fix bugs without
changing the name.
We (as in Debian) may have the permission, but that permission does
not flow downstream.
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Eric Dorland wrote:
Sarge is released, so the time is ripe to figure out what I'm going to
do. This issue has been dragging out like 6 months now, so lets hash
it out.
OK.
One
* Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
* Eric Dorland:
1. Completely ignore their Trademark Policy document and let MoFo come
to us if they're not happy with our use of the marks.
This is the policy we have adopted with PHP, Apache and
similarly-licensed software. It's basically
will not accept or exercise rights which
cannot be granted to Debian's users.
Proposed extension? Is this actually been on the table before?
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* Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au) wrote:
Eric Dorland wrote:
Now, the Mozilla Foundation is willing to give us permission to use
the marks, but only to Debian specifically. To me, this feels like a
violation (at least in spirit) of DFSG #8.
Our priorities are our users and free
* Adrian von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 18.21, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is DFSG 4 if not a grudging acceptance of this sort
* Julien BLACHE ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Debian Way (tm) would be to drop mozilla, firefox and thunderbird
from Debian -- there's no reason what works with the FSF can't work
with the MoFo.
Don't be so militant. Firefox is clearly a popular
be fooled into thinking we'll be able to call it
debian-firefox. If we have to rename it will not be able to include
the string firefox anywhere in that name.
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about trademarks, which makes things murkier. But the
principles should still apply. We're being offered a Debian specific
deal. I don't think #8 allows us to do that, even if it is permissible
under #4.
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browser, not without Mozilla itself.
There's still Galeon and a couple of others, based on Gecko. Should be
enough.
Julien, I'm not going to remove Firefox from the distro over this
issue. Let it go, it's not going to happen.
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to derived distributions.
We're losing sight of the key issue here. We *cannot* use their
trademark under their current trademark policy. They are offering us a
deal that is Debian specific to allow use to use the marks. Can we
accept such a deal as a project? Does the DFSG allow us to?
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? I'm interested in second
opinions and how you guys are handling this situation? Did you accept
an arrangement with MoFo?
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* Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
El mar, 14-06-2005 a las 15:35 -0400, Eric Dorland escribió:
We're losing sight of the key issue here. We *cannot* use their
trademark under their current trademark policy. They are offering us a
deal that is Debian specific to allow
or Mozilla Firefox.
BTW, we should remove any gecko based browser too. After all they
depend in MOZILLA-browser. Not only firefox is going to be blamed here.
AFAIK, Mozilla is not trademarked.
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* Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
El mar, 14-06-2005 a las 15:12 -0400, Eric Dorland escribió:
[...]
Let's say we call it mozilla-firefox (assuming we are allowed to in the
first place) and downstream (making some modifications) is not allowed
to call it mozilla
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Jun 15, Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I never claimed the renaming would not be confusing and
painful. Sometimes we have to do painful things because they're the
right thing to do. I think everyone realizes a rename would suck the
big
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 03:05:20PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Adrian von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
As I understand DSFG 8, this covers only the case that the firefox
package
distributed by Debian *as is* must still be usable
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Jun 15, Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's an important part in evaluating the balance between the priorities
of our users and free software...
And where do we strike that balance in this case? I think gaining more
freedom for our
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:10:06AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 03:05:20PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote:
Come on, that can't possibly be the intention. I could craft a license
* issues and we probably
should not begin to invent new ones..:-)
I know this mail will sound a bit rude but some parts of this thread
really made me nervous.
(taking pills now..:-)))
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