Re: moving a package from non-US/main to main?

2001-09-02 Thread Gergely Nagy
If the source includes SHA, then it must remain in non-US, together with the binaries (iow: binaries compiled without SHA, from a source which has SHA in it must be in non-us still). At least, that's what I think, but I may be wrong. -- Gergely Nagy \ mhp/|8] pgpJ5XuclYybE.pgp Description

Re: Symlinking /usr/share/doc/package is not allowed

2003-05-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
that... -- Gergely Nagy

Re: forwarding bugs to other packages

2004-10-18 Thread Gergely Nagy
package? That'd result in your buggetting automatically closed when the bug is fixed in the other package, it would probably make filtering easier too, and the bug would normally appear on the bug page of your package, so users would notice it and won't report it again and again. HTH, -- Gergely Nagy

Re: Drop testing

2004-10-23 Thread Gergely Nagy
the problems with testing (mainly testing-security at this point in time) would be MUCH better than dropping testing and freezing unstable before the next release. -- Gergely Nagy

Re: Drop testing

2004-10-24 Thread Gergely Nagy
want to push the same larger update into a frozen unstable, you'd run into the very same problems anyway. -- Gergely Nagy

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
reasons I'm a Debian user. -- Gergely Nagy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: mipsel drop / buildd situation Was: [Fwd: Re: GTK+2.0 2.6.2-3 and buildds running out of space]

2005-03-10 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 16:22 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Gergely, On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:56:10AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: Just to chime in, not saying that maintaining a consistent state between architectures is an easy thing and presents no problems, but Debian is the only

dpatch 2.0.0 uploaded to experimental

2003-11-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
a plus in my book. Please help us testing this release, by giving it a go, and checking if it does not break existing functionality or if there are more features wanted[3]! Cheers, -- Gergely Nagy [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnu-arch/ [2] tla register-archive [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ http

Re: Mass-filling against packages without MD5-sums? (was: debsums for maintainer scripts)

2003-12-01 Thread Gergely Nagy
* Michael Ablassmeier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031201 19:55]: I think, at least Packages like dpkg or gnupg should call dh_md5sums. I was wondering, if it would be usefull to make a mass bug-filling against these Packages. Before, it would be nice to have a List of Packages (maybe sorted by

Re: NMU upload but I'm the maintainer! (was: Fixed in NMU of sparc-utils 1.8-2)

2001-09-09 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hello! Maintainer: Eric Delaunay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Eric delaunay [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ These are not the same, note the case... Cheers, -- Gergely Nagy \ mhp/|8] pgpzmOMLrgPk3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: questions on ITP

2001-09-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
You can either Cc: debian devel, or add a X-Debbugs-Cc: header (works like Cc, but includes the bug# in the subject too). IIRC, it is documented somewhere in the doc-debian package. Cheers, -- Gergely Nagy \ mhp/|8] pgpWqyKFvBmI9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: building a new debian package

2001-09-22 Thread Gergely Nagy
like that.. Cheers, -- Gergely Nagy \ mhp/|8] pgpS3dP2SXClJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [The good, the bad and] The Ugly -- the cosmetic rant

2001-12-23 Thread Gergely Nagy
I can see where a patch.diff might come in. It may not always be the result of a DD not cleaning out the debian/ directory before building. It may even be an essential part of the build process. Yes, but probably with a more suitable name.. (note that I checked the patch.diff itself, and it

Re: maintainer for cervisia is MIA

2002-01-06 Thread Gergely Nagy
I mailed the maintainer of the above package on the eleventh of december and haven't got a reply yet. All the bugs of the package are pretty old, a new version of the proggy is also available upstream, current version is a year old. He is my applicant, and has a new version ready (with a

Re: Debbugs and ACK messages

2002-04-03 Thread Gergely Nagy
Is there anyone out there who actually appreciates the storms of Information received acks that debbugs generates? If not, it is fairly simple to turn them off - we just need to decide to do so. I do. If lists are slow, I get an ACK back quickly, and won't wonder for hours if my mail got

Possible mass filing of bugs, take #2.1

2002-08-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi! Some time ago, I assembled a list of packages which were arch: all, yet used binary-arch to build the package, and another list of packages whose debian/copyright did not have a pointer to the full license. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to file the bugs at that time, so I redid the test now.

Re: Possible mass filing of bugs, take #2.1

2002-08-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
Rather than mass filing bugs, can you write a lintian check for it instead? He filed a bug about Upstream Author(s), I fixed it, and then shaleh and others reverted it :) I think we have better things to be nitpicky about. Besides, lintian tries to only enforce policy. Spelling

Re: Possible mass filing of bugs, take #2.1

2002-08-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 05:56:58PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: Some time ago, I assembled a list of packages which were arch: all, yet used binary-arch to build the package, and another list of packages whose debian/copyright did not have a pointer to the full license. Rather than mass

Bug#157449: lintian: check for missing reference to he perl license terms (Was: Re: Possible mass filing of bugs, take #2.1)

2002-08-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
Package: lintian Version: 1.20.17 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Rather than mass filing bugs, can you write a lintian check for it instead? As promised, here is the check: diff -u -urNad old/copyright-file new/copyright-file --- old/copyright-file 2002-08-20 23:04:54.0 +0200 +++

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread Gergely Nagy
, a Debian or linux-flaming article somewhere on the net, etc), preferably calmly, without having ones blood pressure rise to unhealthy heights. -- Gergely Nagy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: apply to NM? ha!

2005-01-25 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:02 -0600, John Hasler wrote: Gergely Nagy writes: Indeed. Even if all of us start to behave ourselves and avoid nasty flamewars (ha! in your dreams! :P), we still have to deal with the occassional bugreporter of Barbaric Communication School For 1337 People

RFA: dpatch -- patch maintenance system for Debian source packages

2005-03-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
not want to upload a new, probably half-broken dpatch just to orphan it. -- Gergely Nagy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFA: dpatch -- patch maintenance system for Debian source packages

2005-03-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
on alioth like we did for fetchmail? It is already there, and has been from day 1. We didn't use the stuff provided by alioth though... Mostly the arch repo was in use, and nothing else. -- Gergely Nagy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: FTBFS for illegal archs

2005-04-15 Thread Gergely Nagy
does anyone knows a solution to let packages FTBFS on buildd's which architecure are not supported by the software? If the arch is not supported by the package, why is it in the packages Architecture: line to begin with? -- Gergely Nagy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: dependency on base package adduser ?

2005-05-10 Thread Gergely Nagy
as a dependency. Furthermore, as adduser is used in preinst, the package must Pre-Depend on it (according to my reading of Policy 7.2). -- Gergely Nagy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Changes to the weekly WNPP posting

2005-05-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
be much better. I fall into the doesn't read WNPP summaries because they're too friggin' long category, but I'd certainly glance through them, would they be shorter and posted to a list I'm subscribed to most of the time. -- Gergely Nagy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RFC: A new video-related section

2005-05-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:17 +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: El Viernes 27 Mayo 2005 14:09, Pierre Habouzit escribi: multimedia seems more appropriate. most of the video player actually are music player too, and some music player can show video with appropriate plugins (xmms e.g.)

Re: RFC: A new video-related section

2005-05-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 07:38 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 01:26:59PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:17 +0300, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: El Viernes 27 Mayo 2005 14:09, Pierre Habouzit escribi: multimedia seems more appropriate. most

Re: RFC: A new video-related section

2005-05-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:00 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: Gergely Nagy wrote: Then media players are just fine in graphics or sound, depending on which is their main focus (or they could even be in gnome or kde, or whatever). Please see it from a user's point of view. If one wants a media

Re: RFC: A new video-related section

2005-05-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 14:13 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Le Vendredi 27 Mai 2005 14:00, Philipp Kern a crit : Gergely Nagy wrote: Then media players are just fine in graphics or sound, depending on which is their main focus (or they could even be in gnome or kde, or whatever

Bug#626969: ITP: libmongo-client -- Alternate C driver for the MongoDB document-oriented datastore

2011-05-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gergely Nagy alger...@madhouse-project.org * Package name: libmongo-client Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu * URL : https://github.com/algernon/libmongo-client/ * License : Apache 2.0

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes: I have noticed several times package changes like the following (from cairomm entering testing today): * debian/control: - Drop build dependencies on doxygen and graphviz, since upstream now ships the generated documentation Feels

Re: Ok to use upstream doumentation as-is (i.e. not regenerate)?

2011-06-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Benjamin Drung bdr...@debian.org writes: Am Samstag, den 04.06.2011, 14:10 +0200 schrieb Gergely Nagy: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk writes: I have noticed several times package changes like the following (from cairomm entering testing today): * debian/control: - Drop build

Re: Features Missing in Debian's Package Management System

2011-06-13 Thread Gergely Nagy
Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by writes: On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:25:29 +0200 Peter De Wachter pdewa...@gmail.com wrote: You can do something like this using apt pinning. If you assign a negative priority to a package, it will still be listed but apt will refuse to install it. For

Bug#630761: RFP: libczmq -- High-level C binding for ZeroMQ

2011-06-17 Thread Gergely Nagy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libczmq Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Pieter Hintjens p...@imatix.com and others * URL : http://czmq.zeromq.org/ * License : LGPL3+ Programming Lang: C Description : High-level C binding for ZeroMQ

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-18 Thread Gergely Nagy
Federico Di Gregorio f...@debian.org writes: On 18/07/11 12:13, Samuel Thibault wrote: Jon Dowland, le Mon 18 Jul 2011 10:35:30 +0100, a écrit : 1. carry portability patches against systemd locally 2. support multiple init systems 3. drop kfreebsd (and HURD and others) 3 basically means

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-18 Thread Gergely Nagy
What if next year $upstream_of_an_important_package decides that he only cares about amd64 and arm? The rest of the world is obsolete anyway... What about also embeded marked ? Projection says what consumer will use more embeded software than desktop in the next years. Systemd seems pretty

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-18 Thread Gergely Nagy
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: | The main issue I have with dropping kFreeBSD HURD would be (apart from | losing two platforms I use - even if for fun only; I don't want to use a | distribution that doesn't allow me to have as much fun as I do now) that | it leads down the path of

Re: DEP5 Copyright Question

2011-07-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: My sponsor requested me to add debian/copyright entries for files in the generated HTML documentation. The documentation is generated by Sphinx, and Sphinx adds some templates and js libraries which are then covered (at least that's what I believe) by

Re: DEP5 Copyright Question

2011-07-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Sven Hoexter s...@timegate.de writes: The question is what should be achieved with d/copyright? Give just a short overview over the main parts of the package or a complete overview of the complete package contents? My understanding is, that it should be a complete overview of the source

Re: [Lennart Poettering] Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Uoti Urpala uoti.urp...@pp1.inet.fi writes: Whatever its features, if we have to jump through a large heap of hoops to get it to work at all, or to make life for maintainers of daemon packages not a complete nightmare, it's not likely to become the default in Debian any time soon. I think

Re: [Lennart Poettering] Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Gergely Nagy | FYI, there are upstreams who provide initscripts in their source | package. systemd is yet another burden on them that they have to | maintain, and makes their lives miserable. You make it sound like systemd requires you to make

Re: [Lennart Poettering] Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Uoti Urpala uoti.urp...@pp1.inet.fi writes: Gergely Nagy algernon at balabit.hu writes: Uoti Urpala uoti.urpala at pp1.inet.fi writes: Whatever its features, if we have to jump through a large heap of hoops to get it to work at all, or to make life for maintainers of daemon packages

Re: [Lennart Poettering] Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-07-20 Thread Gergely Nagy
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, Gergely Nagy wrote: Thus, upstream has to jump through a large heap of hoops to support systemd properly (and if not going for proper systemd support, making use of its new features, I see no point in writing a service file

RFC: dpatch - past, present and future

2011-08-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi! Some of you may have heard of this ancient beast called 'dpatch'[1], some of you might have noticed that it's been recentishly orphaned[2], and that someone (hi!) intends to pick it up[3]. The past My involvement with dpatch goes back a loong long time, and I feel somewhat

Re: RFC: dpatch - past, present and future

2011-08-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: Hi, On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Gergely Nagy wrote: As for the future: I still believe dpatch is a temporary solution, and that better tools exist now. Therefore, it is my long-term plan to slowly deprecate dpatch, and eventually make it gracefully leave

Re: RFC: dpatch - past, present and future

2011-08-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 22:54, Gergely Nagy alger...@madhouse-project.org wrote: Something like a dpatch2quilt thing. While I haven't verified it yet, I'm fairly sure most dpatches out there actually use the default template, which is trivial to convert

Re: RFC: dpatch - past, present and future

2011-08-17 Thread Gergely Nagy
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:54:30PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: I don't want to make it spew out deprecation warnings, those are too tempting to ignore. Updating the description, filing wishlist bugs with patches, and providing upgrade paths

Re: RFC: dpatch - past, present and future

2011-08-17 Thread Gergely Nagy
Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes: But if your goal is really to get rid of it, you could just as well file wishlist bugs on all packages build-depending on it, usertag them and increase their severity slowly. Wishlist for now, normal in the next release cycle and important/RC in the

Re: dynamic Text in package descriptions

2011-08-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Torsten Werner twer...@debian.org writes: On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Michael Bramer gr...@debian.org wrote: ! Description: Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime !  This package points to the Java runtime, or Java compatible !  runtime recommended for the ${jre:arch} architecture, !  

Re: ifupdown package interfaces include function

2011-08-31 Thread Gergely Nagy
Sébastien Riccio s...@swisscenter.com writes: If i'm right it seems it has been closed and merged in ifupdown-0.7~alpha4. [...] The package version installed on my box is: ifupdown 0.7~alpha5+really0.6.15 Notice the +really0.6.15. Try with the ifupdown from

Re: simple Debian package information in the wiki

2011-08-31 Thread Gergely Nagy
Henri Le Foll li...@lefoll.eu writes: http://wiki.debian.org/Packaging/Minimal (for empty packages) http://wiki.debian.org/Packaging/Trivial (for a pdf file) http://wiki.debian.org/Packaging I am interested to have feed back on it I maintain my view that to learn packaging, the best way to

Bug#640411: RFP: libtest-harness-archive-perl -- Create an archive of TAP test results

2011-09-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libtest-harness-archive-perl Version : 0.14 Upstream Author : Michael Peters mpet...@plusthree.com * URL or Web page : http://search.cpan.org/dist/TAP-Harness-Archive/ * License : Artistic Description : Create an

Re: forwarding bugs upstream - opt-in, delayed, automated

2011-09-13 Thread Gergely Nagy
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes: Steve suggested a feature that might improve the status quo: - enable people to subscribe to bug traffic only if it matches specific tags (the idea being of forwarding upstream only the traffic for confirmed bugs) I'd love this, even with

Re: Two groups of users, one distro in the middle

2011-11-15 Thread Gergely Nagy
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Alex Pennace wrote: Even without that point, the conclusion remains the same: Both projects should endure the rename (unless one concedes), and that shouldn't be viewed in terms of look at what those meanies in Debian are

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com writes: Recently [1], dpatch's maintainer uploaded a new version indicating that dpatch is now deprecated. Following that, he filed a bug [2] so that lintian might warn that dpatch's makefile has been deprecated since 2003, and that dpatch itself

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-28 Thread Gergely Nagy
Alexander Wirt formo...@debian.org writes: Recently [1], dpatch's maintainer uploaded a new version indicating that dpatch is now deprecated. Following that, he filed a bug [2] so that lintian might warn that dpatch's makefile has been deprecated since 2003, and that dpatch itself is now

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-29 Thread Gergely Nagy
Alexander Wirt formo...@debian.org writes: The question is: who decides? I have a bunch of packages and an established workflow that served me well over the last years. I don't want to learn another *censored* system, just because someone said its the new standard or it is better. Thing is,

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-29 Thread Gergely Nagy
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 06:44:04PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Besides it would be great that everyone uploading has a big reminder to switch away from dpatch. Switching to v3 quilt should be easy. There are several features of dpatch that can't be

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-29 Thread Gergely Nagy
Martin Wuertele m...@debian.org writes: * Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net [2011-11-29 10:04]: (...)  - Conditional application of patches.  Some packages have patches that are   only applied on a per-architecture or per-target-distribution basis. (...) All of these can be

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-29 Thread Gergely Nagy
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Gergely Nagy wrote: - Custom patch commands, as already discussed. Yes, we should get rid of them, but that doesn't make it easy to convert them. echo skip-patches debian/source/options And then in a pre-build target

Re: Lintian ERROR saying dpatch is obsolete

2011-11-29 Thread Gergely Nagy
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 09:04:31AM +, Roger Leigh wrote:  - Conditional application of patches.  Some packages have patches that are   only applied on a per-architecture or per-target-distribution basis. All of these can be dealt with

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: So, to sum it up. Before, you would do in debian/rules: sed s/@DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH@/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/ debian/libfoo.install.in debian/libfoo.install Now, you will do in debian/foo.install: #! /bin/sh sed

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com writes: On 08/12/2011 07:12, Gergely Nagy wrote: And by extend, I mean something like: , | #! /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify | /usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/* ` The /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify script would do the sed magic. This would make

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: Arno Töll deb...@toell.net writes: Your own script-fu in debian/rules or external scripts isn't exactly the next best thing to read and learn how a foreign package works and there /are/ use cases where dh_install isn't flexible enough to deal

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 08:14:52AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: I disagree. Look at dpatch. It had executable patches since the beginning, and a standardised script from 2.0 onwards. One problem with executable patches was the fact you couldn't reason about

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le jeudi 08 décembre 2011 à 00:12 +0100, Gergely Nagy a écrit : , | #! /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify | /usr/lib/${DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH}/* ` The /usr/bin/dh_multiarchify script *tad* It would need to be a compiled program, since you can’t

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Kees Cook k...@debian.org writes: - Export DEB_* environment variables to the script. This really feels like the missing piece to me. I'd love this too. I already have a half-baked patch, implementing some generic substitution-foo that could use this (see #651393 for the details). -- |8]

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: override_dh_auto_install: debian/libfoo.my-install-script [..] This new feature stinks of black-box magic that will make people crazy trying to find/fix a prolem in somebody elses package. The thing that make cdbs so bad. I beg to

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: *tad* It would need to be a compiled program, since you can’t use scripts in shebangs. Wrong, you can. On Linux and Hurd, yeah. On kFreeBSD, you can't. But hey, FreeBSD folks learned about basic niceties like tab completion just last

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com writes: See my workaround in the mail you quoted. #! /bin/sh $PATH should work for kFreeBSD and pretty much anything else out there too. An extra /bin/sh never hurt anybody! Except that it forces your interpreter to be written in sh, which Debian doesn't

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com writes: On 09/12/2011 02:10, Gergely Nagy wrote: Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com writes: See my workaround in the mail you quoted. #! /bin/sh $PATH should work for kFreeBSD and pretty much anything else out there too. An extra /bin/sh never hurt

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: Disclaimer: I didn't write any multiarch packaging (yet). The incentive for doing all this seems to be multiarch. Why instead don't we have a mechanism to have variables in debian/*.install instead, or a dh_helper to move things to the multiarch folder

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Kees Cook k...@debian.org writes: Which means I can't use DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH in the config-scripts, unfortunately. Not to worry! dh-subst will be coming in a day or two (+ NEW waiting time), which will allow you to use DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH as you'd expect to. -- |8] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: P.S: Is there any valid lintian clean package in the archive that doesn't use any helper tools at all? That's would be very instructive... dpatch, for example. There are plenty of other examples in the archive. -- |8] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 10:07:12PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: Kees Cook k...@debian.org writes: Which means I can't use DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH in the config-scripts, unfortunately. Not to worry! dh-subst will be coming in a day or two (+ NEW waiting

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: I'll happily use the new dh_install feature instead of whining. You are forgetting that there are more people than just you looking at your package. By using an obviously verry controversial feature you will make everybody else life more

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-08 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: Compared to writing overrides, it's less effort. Compared to just writing the variable and expecting it to work, it's two commands more. I believe that's not much. On the other hand, though, making it obvious that it's a script, and there's

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-09 Thread Gergely Nagy
Gergely Nagy alger...@madhouse-project.org writes: Kees Cook k...@debian.org writes: Which means I can't use DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH in the config-scripts, unfortunately. Not to worry! dh-subst will be coming in a day or two (+ NEW waiting time), which will allow you to use DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-09 Thread Gergely Nagy
Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes: * Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu, 2011-12-09, 16:05: Comments, critique, testing and whatnot is more than welcomed, feel free to shout my head off if you see something remarkably stupid. [1]: https://github.com/algernon/dh-subst As I already told you

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-12 Thread Gergely Nagy
Nicolas Boulenguez nicolas.bouleng...@free.fr writes: 3/ The way debhelper splits its work in small tools does not always fit the separation of human concerns. For example, the following is IMHO more readable that generating/executing a single debian/*.install file in which each line deals

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-12 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: So, in this case, the difference is negligible, both can be trivially understood. However, it gives more flexibility to the maintainer, to do more complex stuff, if so needs be. But, that won't be the common case. Why? Because there's no point

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-12 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: At a glance what does this do? [...] It triggers my slap the maintainer silly button. Other than that, it's dead simple: copy a file from one place to the other (with possibly renaming the file), with the file list following the while loop.

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-13 Thread Gergely Nagy
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes: Gergely Nagy wrote: At the moment, I have something that works like this: , | #! /usr/bin/dh-exec-install | # The next one will simply echo it back to dh_install | source-file /dest-dir/ | | # This one will copy the file itself, following similar

RFC/RFR: dh-exec -- Scripts to help with executable debhelper files

2011-12-14 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hi! As a result of a recent discussion on this list, I started to prepare a package[1] that will hopefully make it easier and more straightforward to use the executable debhelper files introduces in 8.9.12. For now, it can only substitute environment variables, and stuff dpkg-architecture(1)

Re: RFC/RFR: dh-exec -- Scripts to help with executable debhelper files

2011-12-14 Thread Gergely Nagy
Roland Mas lola...@debian.org writes: Gergely Nagy, 2011-12-14 12:04:03 +0100 : Hi! As a result of a recent discussion on this list, I started to prepare a package[1] that will hopefully make it easier and more straightforward to use the executable debhelper files introduces in 8.9.12

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-14 Thread Gergely Nagy
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le vendredi 09 décembre 2011 à 16:05 +0100, Gergely Nagy a écrit : 'lo and behold, I started implementing dh-subst, and while it's fairly rough and underdocumented, there's some usable code out there in my github repo[1]. If it’s a joke, it’s a bad

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-14 Thread Gergely Nagy
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le vendredi 09 décembre 2011 à 11:50 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : I have made hundreds of changes to debhelper that broke buggy packages without using compat levels; that is not what compat levels are for. So, breaking a dozen packages with +x on their

Re: RFC/RFR: dh-exec -- Scripts to help with executable debhelper files

2011-12-15 Thread Gergely Nagy
Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu writes: For now, it can only substitute environment variables, and stuff dpkg-architecture(1) knows about (yes, it will work just fine even when $DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH and similar aren't available in the environment), but there's possibility to add more helpers

Re: RFC/RFR: dh-exec -- Scripts to help with executable debhelper files

2011-12-15 Thread Gergely Nagy
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011 à 18:33 +0100, Gergely Nagy a écrit : , | #! /usr/bin/dh-exec | etc/sample.conf = /etc/my-package/my-package.conf | examples/* /usr/share/doc/my-package/examples ` The syntax itself isn't all that bad

Re: RFC/RFR: dh-exec -- Scripts to help with executable debhelper files

2011-12-15 Thread Gergely Nagy
Vincent Danjean vdanjean...@free.fr writes: Le 15/12/2011 18:33, Gergely Nagy a écrit : , | dh-exec.DEADBEEF/etc/my-package/my-package.conf /etc/my-package | examples/* /usr/share/doc/my-package/examples ` As far as I see, this should cause no ill side-effects, apart from

Re: RFC/RFR: dh-exec -- Scripts to help with executable debhelper files

2011-12-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
Gergely Nagy alger...@madhouse-project.org writes: Vincent Danjean vdanjean...@free.fr writes: Le 15/12/2011 18:33, Gergely Nagy a écrit : , | dh-exec.DEADBEEF/etc/my-package/my-package.conf /etc/my-package | examples/* /usr/share/doc/my-package/examples ` As far as I see

Re: Getting dh_install to do what we need

2011-12-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: My implementation copies the file to the desired destination, which may or may not be a good idea - I'll do some more tests to see which one's less painful and more safe. That breaks -X, --fail-missing, --list-missing, --sourcedir, and --tmpdir

Re: RFC/RFR: dh-exec -- Scripts to help with executable debhelper files

2011-12-16 Thread Gergely Nagy
Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de writes: And for the record, I'm seeking input on the dh-exec implementation here. Keep the anti-executable-debhelper-foo thing in the other thread, please. But that is the actualy problem. The executable-debhelper-foo thing is in many peoples optinion

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-22 Thread Gergely Nagy
Stephan Seitz stse+deb...@fsing.rootsland.net writes: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 03:24:47PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: I have. Not on debian, but on debianish system with dash. And the result was that shellscripts are indeed the bottleneck. We still did convert to I don’t doubt it, but the

Re: Are translations useful?

2012-02-28 Thread Gergely Nagy
David Prévot taf...@debian.org writes: So no, “translators [are not] held in a labor camp”, but undervaluing their work (“because it's fun for them”) seems rude, at least. I would find it rude if someone asserted that what I do for Debian is not something I find fun. I do not see how it's

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Sergio Cipolla secipo...@gmail.com writes: I'm not sure if you're a Debian Maintainer or not (or worse, Debian Developer) but this kind of big mouthing shouldn't be accepted from a DM/DD. I don't see a problem. Someone has a strong opinon, and perhaps the way it came across was a bit harsh,

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: Looking at the front page of http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ today, I don't see a clear statement that it is unofficial. There are a ton of hints, nevertheless. I'd like to think that someone who's adding sources.list entries to his config will

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-05 Thread Gergely Nagy
Florian Reitmeir flor...@reitmeir.org writes: to expect that any third-party package archive is stable enough to survive an debian dist-upgrade is just brave. It can be done, though, and it should be the norm. That it is not so, that's unfortunate, and something we (both the Debian maintainers

Re: Quilt patch for patching things in the debian folder

2012-03-07 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: On 03/07/2012 06:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: Even with such calls, I don't see how to remove a single line from a .install file using dpkg-vendor. (Typically this is necessary when the line in question contains a wildcard but the modified build means

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