Re: Bug#345977: ITP: polld -- Polling demon

2006-01-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Nathan Poznick wrote: Thus spake Roger Leigh: What is the problem this is trying to solve? If the partition table is being changed, the tool that changed it should issue a BLKRRPART ioctl, like fdisk does for example (see linux/fs.h). I have a USB card reader which has 5 different slots

documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, I about packaging a library that ships an API reference in docbook SGML and provides manual build targets for PDF, PS and HTML. Is there any preference on which type should be included in the -dev package? I would prefer PDF: * one file only * easy to print * many viewers available I

Re: documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 12:36 schrieb Daniel Leidert: Am Freitag, den 10.02.2006, 12:09 +0100 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: I about packaging a library that ships an API reference in docbook SGML and provides manual build targets for PDF, PS and HTML. Is there any preference on which type

Re: documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 13:36 schrieb Neil Roeth: On Feb 10, Hendrik Sattler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, I about packaging a library that ships an API reference in docbook SGML and provides manual build targets for PDF, PS and HTML. Is there any preference on which type

Re: documentation types

2006-02-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 13:54 schrieb Lars Wirzenius: This has been discussed a long time ago and there is a policy decided. From the Policy Manual:         12.4 Preferred documentation formats                 The unification of Debian documentation is being carried out via        

Re: documentation types

2006-02-16 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 10:04 schrieb Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:54:09PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: Thus the thing to do is to provide HTML. I disagree, the thing to do is to provide HTML *and* an easy to print format, that is PS or PDF. It would

Re: documentation types

2006-02-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 00:57 schrieb Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña: It would be great to have a new debhelper package that creates the previously chosen documentation formats from the provided SGML file on installation. Debhelper? You are aware that debhelper is used on package

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 23:08 schrieb Arthur de Jong: On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: Come on, please stop arguing with random, unsuited comparisons, and use common sense : what's the purpose of ndiswrapper without non-free drivers to use it on? We've always put things of

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2006 23:43 schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le samedi 18 février 2006 à 23:37 +0100, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : Maybe Debian should take one or two steps back to the point where it only requires source for something that can actually be compiled with something in Debian

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 20. Februar 2006 11:11 schrieb Jérôme Warnier: [..] Ndiswrapper probably is better compared to such drivers than to wine or dosemu. I'm sorry, but Wine and Dosemu can run free softwares (respectively for Windows and DOS), so they are not unuseful without proprietary softwares.

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2006 12:52 schrieb Anthony Towns: Anyway, despite it's acronym, I'd put Wine under the same heading as emulators. Wine reads a different binary format than elf and also provides the libs in the other format. Is the linux kernel on sparc an emulator if it can run

Re: How to identify distro, lsb-release is broken

2006-02-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 10:16 schrieb Stephen Birch: Miles Bader([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2006-02-23 17:41: Stephen Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to find a way of identifying the name of an installed distrobution. This mechanism should be able to differentiate To what end?

Re: Problem regarding modules.dep

2006-02-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 14:34 schrieb conn itnel: I am a student and according to my academic project requirement.. I need to cross compile the kernel on P4 (PC HOST) for i386 (TARGET). Now the PC Host and Target contains the same debian 3.1r1 sarge. I successfully crosscompile

Re: Is there some guideline saying that native packages should be avoided?

2006-02-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag, 28. Februar 2006 21:26 schrieb Henning Makholm: Further, providing an .orig.tar.gz without the debian/ directory helps prevent confusion for users on non-Debian systems. So the same reason for not including a .spec file (for creating RPM packages). On the other side, some user may

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 01:28 schrieb Miriam Ruiz:  bcpp indents C/C++ source programs, replacing tabs with spaces or the  reverse. Yet another program that does this wrong? Indentation levels should be represented by tabs and alignment (like multi-line function arguments) should be done by

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 08:05 schrieb Miles Bader: Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: represented by tabs and alignment (like multi-line function arguments) should be done by spaces. Gains: shows fine in _every_ editor, no need to set tab-width. Losses: doesn't work well with many

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 10:59 schrieb Miles Bader: If you attempted to view such code using an application which uses the standard tab size of 8 -- e.g., more or less in a terminal -- blocks would end up being indented by _16 spaces per block level_, which is (pardon my french) pretty fucking

Re: Bug#355488: ITP: bcpp -- C(++) beautifier

2006-03-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 6. März 2006 11:39 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: 8bit tab width s/8bit/8 spaces/ me is confused HS pgpWd6uTc4ZU0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 03:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm one of the people who actually helped design the GNU Makefile and configure standards, and --host does not signal that you're cross-compiling. What signals that you are cross-compiling

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 20:17 schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: Or do you want to do this to avoid an ifeq..endif block in debian/rules files that are currently required to detect if --host should be issued to configure ? Personally just because I don't like the currently different

Re: white listing spam en/on debian devel

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 19:51 schrieb Jason Clinton: Por favor, quiero que paré mandando mensajes para confirmação a los gentes que estan mandando a la lista. - Hi, Please, I would appreciate it if you would stop stop

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 22:26 schrieb Peter Kourzanov: ship with symbolic links, e.g. gcc - gcc-4.0 - i686-linux-gcc-4.0   Which it already does:-) The other direction but your are right :) I looked for i686-linux-gcc when in fact it is i486-linux-gcc. HS -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 23:32 schrieb Steve Langasek: Um, the native target for Debian systems is i486-linux-gnu, not i686-linux-gnu -- the symlink i486-linux-gnu-gcc-4.0 *does* exist. If you're using anything other than i486-linux-gnu as your host string for a Debian package, then aside

libopenobex library transition

2006-03-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
. Are there any other problems with this plan? Hendrik Sattler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libopenobex library transition

2006-03-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 23. März 2006 06:36 schrieb Steve Langasek: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 04:55:39PM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Sadly, they changed the soname again. So instead of directly uploading the new upstream version, I would like to wait for the following bugs to be resolved, first

Re: What library to use for manipulation iCal data from C

2006-04-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 5. April 2006 22:13 schrieb Søren Boll Overgaard: The longer version: I am currently working with the upstream of calcurse[1] on adding support for the iCal calendaring data format to the program. I assumed that someone else had already written a library which would simplify my

Re: Bug#364422: libopenobex1-dev: pkg-config should provide correct include-path

2006-04-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
/usr/include. kdebluetooth that checked obex.h at that path and if not present added an openobex/ to that patch and checked again. However, pkg-config is too smart and does not output and -I/usr/include. What are your opinions about this? Sincerly Hendrik Sattler pgpxiMPcYLtSp.pgp Description

Debian Policy version

2006-05-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, In the PTS I see: The package should be updated to follow the last version of Debian Policy (Standards-Version 3.7.2 instead of 3.6.2.0). However, version 3.7.2.0 is neither in unstable nor at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ Both only have version 3.7.1.0. How comes that the PTS

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 19:22 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: Because the only _solution_ with current userspace is to kill the kernels hotplug design and go back to synchronous handling. Another solution might be to dynamically attach to udev events. This is how in-kernel async device

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 21:53 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 19:22 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: Because the only _solution_ with current userspace is to kill the kernels hotplug design and go back to synchronous

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-19 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 03:14 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 21:53 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow: But how do you detect when there is no device to be found to call the function? That's of absolutely no interest because

Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

2006-05-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag, 20. Mai 2006 12:01 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: [Erast Benson] And thanks to upstream folks, 90% of OSS software is platform independent and just works. Just to get the facts straight here. I compile and port free software regularly to Linux, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, Tru64 Unix,

Re: Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2006 00:00 schrieb Steve Langasek: and -dev package names should track *API* changes To be more precise: incompatible API changes. If the current API is simply extended by some new function, the -dev package keeps its numbered name. HS pgpwQExhAEWsj.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Uploading packages built against testing? (was: openssl will block bacula into etch?)

2006-05-29 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006 10:27 schrieb Frank Küster: Would it be acceptable to build bacula (or any other package with that problem) in an etch environment, or on sid with manually installed libssl from etch, and upload that to unstable?  After checking that it works in unstable, of course.

Re: Uploading packages built against testing?

2006-05-29 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006 21:16 schrieb Thomas Viehmann: Hendrik Sattler wrote: No, but you could manually set all stuff in Depends to the needed versions. That would also work for the buildds, I guess. And break at the next opportunity (binNMU, recompile, update in a hurry...). If he knows

Re: adding ddccontrol to debian

2006-05-31 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 04:20 schrieb Luc Verhaegen: Imho there should be an X implementation of this: * driver side should be possible entirely from within the ddc module: the ddc module could probe and initialise the ddci slave address for the driver when handed the I2C bus for ddc and

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 02:15 schrieb Axel Beckert: + The dropping of the 2.4 kernel line: This will drop AFAIK support   for e.g. active ISDN cards. The other way round: active cards are still supported as before, at least the AVM B1 cards and all others that already support CAPI. What

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-06-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 15:21 schrieb Axel Beckert: I have a laptop with a GD 7543 chip. And I won't throw away a working laptop just because its graphics card isn't supported and can't be exchanged either. What about using the vesa of fbdev drivers? Maybe slow but working. HS

Re: GCC 4.1 now the default GCC version for etch

2006-06-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 7. Juni 2006 10:28 schrieb Martin Michlmayr: Hendrik Sattler   obexftp 0.19-4 Those can be ignored for now, as they are double casts: uint32_t - char* - int Not nice but won't harm, I guess (or do we have 16bit architectures?). And not related to GCC-4.1 at all. HS

Re: A clean way to introduce delay between scripts in /etc/init.d?

2006-06-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 12. Juni 2006 22:17 schrieb Joey Hess: LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: What is a clean way to introduce a delay between the scripts in /etc/init.d ? I saw a problem that /etc/rc2.d/S27bind9 started before /etc/rc2.d/S25ifplugd actually completed all the tasks ... The best

Re: Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc.

2006-06-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2006 00:53 schrieb Jari Aalto+mail.linux: * Tue 2006-06-13 Josselin Mouette joss AT debian.org * Message-Id: 1150231486.17236.21.camel AT utena.localnet Le lundi 12 juin 2006 à 20:44 +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : I think you're not very clear in what you're asking, so

Re: Netatalk and SSL

2006-06-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2006 00:56 schrieb Tollef Fog Heen: Is this allowed?  If not, why not?  Would it be allowed if the package stanza for libfoo read: Package: libfoo Depends: libbar-ssl | libbar, libc6 Is this actually supported by the linker? If yes, why do we care about transitive

Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

2006-07-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 28 Juli 2006 20:42 schrieb Katrina Jackson: For example, why not have the package updater installed for those who specifically want to install the desktop environment? You still only see you way of using computers. In environments with an administrator, e.g. a pool room, you

Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools

2006-07-31 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 31 Juli 2006 17:08 schrieb Frank Küster: Goswin von Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: Do you know of a good example of a tool that has successfully shaped Debian development

huge wnpp bug report page

2006-08-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, I tried to take a look at the wnpp bug page but neither Konqueror nor Firefox were able to handle it on my system. 3182462 bytes for the HTML code of a single web page is a bit much, isn't it? So I was just wondering if it is really necessary to show 3500 resolved issues by default? They

Re: huge wnpp bug report page

2006-08-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 04 August 2006 13:49 schrieb Ben Armstrong: Hendrik Sattler wrote: I hope that something can be done about this to make the BTS web pages more usable. Are you perhaps not aware of the much smaller indices into the BTS here? http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ Indeed, didn't know

Re: huge wnpp bug report page

2006-08-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, Am Freitag 04 August 2006 13:39 schrieb Adam D. Barratt: I tried to take a look at the wnpp bug page but neither Konqueror nor Firefox were able to handle it on my system. Really? Galeon handles it fine, as does Firefox (the latter on win32). Really. Firefox gets very slow,

Re: A new debhelper program required?

2006-08-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, Am Samstag 05 August 2006 22:36 schrieb Shachar Shemesh: [...] and I ended up manually creating the symbolic link from /usr/lib/thunderbird/extensions/{guid} to /usr/share/lib/thunderbird/extensions/{guid}. [...] 1. Should I have solved the problem differently? Perhaps creating a dual

Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 08 August 2006 09:28 schrieb Alejandro Rios P.: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alejandro Rios P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: libming-fonts-openoffice Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : OpenOffice.org dev@openoffice.org * URL :

Re: Bug#381992: ITP: libming-fonts-openoffice -- Fonts for use with the Ming Library for SWF Creation

2006-08-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 08 August 2006 14:47 schrieb Stuart Anderson: Yes, the packages I have prepared are built as part of the rest of the ming package. The ming source package Build-depends on the package that contains the TTF fonts that will be converted into a libming font package. Upstream ming (and

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hamish Moffatt wrote: Ubuntu has transitioned it in their 'universe' to tqsllib1c2. However none of the exported headers contain the magic :: sign of C++, so I suspect it's unnecessary. (A recompile to link against libstdc++6 should be sufficient, without a name change). Is a non-present ::

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Marco d'Itri wrote: udev (0.070-3) unstable; urgency=low * hotplug and coldplug support has been merged in the udev package, which will load all the drivers needed as the beginning of the boot process and handle hotplug events later. The hotplug package has been disabled

Re: gpl vs openssl again

2005-10-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
sean finney wrote: in the long run, i think it would be preferable to have this package have support for gnutls as an alternative to openssl. however, i don't even know where to start on this. does anyone here have some notes or links handy where i could start for porting the few ssl-using

Re: Transition time: KDE, JACK, arts, sablotron, unixodbc, net-snmp, php, ...

2005-10-31 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Aurelien Jarno wrote: source packages that need to be updated! As a result, the release team asks that the maintainers refrain from uploads of these packages for any reason without coordination with the release team, until this transition completes; uncoordinated uploads will most likely lead

Re: Bug#524896: general: Home directory pollution

2009-04-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 18:21:01 schrieb Roger Leigh: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 05:59:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Mon, Apr 20 2009, Roger Leigh wrote: I was horrified to discover in the last few weeks that Emacs now also defaults to ~/Documents when you start it up, making you

Re: Possible mass bug filing: non-doc packages recommending doc packages

2009-05-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org: I rarely write TeX but I write a lot of docbook and expect to be able to convert that to PDF when necessary - without needing to care about how that happens or how to write TeX myself. Well, you might as well use the FO output and use fop to convert

Re: Bug#528061: ITP: obexd -- OBEX client and server

2009-05-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 10 Mai 2009 17:36:25 schrieb Filippo Giunchedi: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Filippo Giunchedi fili...@debian.org * Package name: obexd Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : Marcel Holtmann mar...@holtmann.org * URL : http://www.bluez.org/ *

Re: Bug#528061: ITP: obexd -- OBEX client and server

2009-05-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Filippo Giunchedi fili...@debian.org: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 09:15:19PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: The obexd is an attempt to unify all current OBEX based servers for No, it isn't. It's another implementation. Implementation of OBEX client and server as a D-Bus service

Re: Bug#533872: ITP: sdop -- Simple DocBook Processor

2009-06-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 21 Juni 2009 10:05:34 schrieb Andreas Metzler: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: sdop Version : 0.52 Upstream Author : Philip Hazel * License : GPLv2+ Programming Lang: C Description : Simple DocBook Processor SDoP (Simple

Re: Bug#533872: ITP: sdop -- Simple DocBook Processor

2009-06-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 21 Juni 2009 20:32:07 schrieb Andreas Metzler: On 2009-06-21 Hendrik Sattler p...@hendrik-sattler.de wrote: Am Sonntag 21 Juni 2009 10:05:34 schrieb Andreas Metzler: * Package name: sdop Version : 0.52 Upstream Author : Philip Hazel * License

Re: Switching the default /bin/sh to dash

2009-06-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 25 Juni 2009 05:21:45 schrieb Raphael Geissert: I just noticed I forgot to say something: What won't change: * Bash will still be used as the default interactive shells for users * the sh symlink won't be modified on existing installations So that it will be even more strange

Re: Bug#537588: RFP: gtk-kde4 -- theme engine using Qt 4 for GTK+2.x

2009-07-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 19 Juli 2009 17:59:55 schrieb Resul Cetin: Package name: gtk-kde4 Version: 0.9b Upstream Author: Yulian Konchunas mu...@gala.net URL: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/gtk-kde4?content=74689 License: GPL2+ Description: theme engine using Qt 4 for

Re: Re: Introduction to multiarch: What maintainers must do

2009-07-30 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von sthiba...@debian.org: My first thought was Err. Won't moving all the shared libs into a different location kinda screw things up? And then I looked, and found | == /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu.conf == Yes, but however pkg-config won't yet find things in

Re: What to do with (packages like) Blender?

2009-08-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Christian Perrier bubu...@debian.org: Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): 4) http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.blender.devel/19895 Patch to add support for system-wide FTGL. I kind of get flamed for thinking about using something else than what blender provides. And

Re: Where should DLL files go?

2009-08-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 19:06:22 schrieb Steve Langasek: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 09:48:56PM +0100, Sam Morris wrote: Although on Debian, the same shared library files (libfoo.so) are used by both compilers to link against, and ld-linux (what is that thing called? The loader? The linker?)

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 04 September 2009 16:36:52 schrieb Michael Biebl: devkit-disks-part-id and devkit-disks-probe-ata-smart both link against libraries which are (currently) in /usr/lib, i.e. devkit-disks-part-id links against libglib-2.0 (784K) devkit-disks-probe-ata-smart links against (48K) This

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 05 September 2009 08:18:13 schrieb Steve Langasek: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:09:40PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: And it is also very unclear to me why this has to be in /lib/udev at all. Because it provides a single point where the desktop hooks into the kernel hotplug event

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 05 September 2009 11:20:06 schrieb Michael Biebl: Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Samstag 05 September 2009 08:18:13 schrieb Steve Langasek: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:09:40PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: And it is also very unclear to me why this has to be in /lib/udev at all

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-06 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 05 September 2009 23:29:39 schrieb Steve Langasek: The rationale for this /using glib/ is that devicekit-disks is not an integral part of udev, it's an add-on component that will be installed only on desktop systems. So the size impact to /lib for servers for this component would

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: Le vendredi 04 septembre 2009 à 19:32 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : It rather needs to raise the question why simple low-level tools use something like libglib? I’d rather raise the question why each of our simple low-level tools implement

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org: Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 15:51 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : I'm suggesting that the utility uses lots of g_ prefixed functions while it's obvious that the author never ever evaluated the need for these. I assume that's because the author is used

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/sbin/sshd: wrong DISPLAY is due to hijacking someone other's one...]

2007-03-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 05 März 2007 19:59 schrieb Russ Allbery: Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and if socket on IPv4 is taken already? this is what lead to the original issue. So should that continue should then be taken only if ai-ai_family == AF_INET6 ? Maybe. I don't know that

Re: Bug#414534: ITP: sucrack -- multithreaded su bruteforcer

2007-03-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 12 März 2007 12:30 schrieb Tim Brown: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: sucrack Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Nico Leidecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.leidecker.info/ * License :

Re: Bug#414534: ITP: sucrack -- multithreaded su bruteforcer

2007-03-12 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 12 März 2007 17:43 schrieb Warren Turkal: On Monday 12 March 2007 10:08, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Is there any real need for such a tool in Debian? It's not an administrative tool and it's obviously not meant for security tests. I just can't see what the normal use of this tool

Re: Results for General Resolution: Altering package upload rules

2007-03-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 18 März 2007 12:56 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Option 1 I support the proposal Option 2 Further Discussion In the following table, tally[row x][col y] represents the votes that option x received over option y. Option 1 2 === ===

Re: Ethernet interface numbering in etch

2007-03-26 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 26 März 2007 19:26 schrieb Florian Weimer: * Russ Allbery: There's actually some stuff in udev or some related package to deal with this, but I can't ever seem to find it when I need it. I think this is actually a documentation bug more than a functionality bug; we just need a

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 22 April 2007 21:39 schrieb Neil Williams: Apart from those limitations, is there a *technical* reason why -dbg packages should not be available? Is it worth taking to -policy? You essentially need to build all library packages 2 times, then. Any examples for debian/rules file? But

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 22 April 2007 22:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Sonntag 22 April 2007 21:39 schrieb Neil Williams: Apart from those limitations, is there a *technical* reason why -dbg packages should not be available? Is it worth taking to -policy? You

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-22 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 22 April 2007 22:56 schrieb Russ Allbery: Hendrik Sattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Sonntag 22 April 2007 22:12 schrieb Russ Allbery: Actually, you don't. See the features of dh_strip introduced at debhelper level V5. And of course you can do the same thing by hand. gdb

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 24 April 2007 14:12 schrieb Josselin Mouette: Using a central server for symbol lookup like Ben proposed looks like a better idea. It needs gdb to be adapted or wrapped to access them correctly, though. You can't do offline debugging with a central server. Unless you are always-on

Re: Bug#422206: ITP: soprano -- A Qt interface for RDF storage

2007-05-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 04 Mai 2007 11:23 schrieb Sune Vuorela: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sune Vuorela [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: soprano Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Sebastian Trueg and others * URL : http://www.kde.org/ * License :

Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.

2007-05-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 16 Mai 2007 17:17 schrieb Steve Greenland: On 16-May-07, 06:24 (CDT), Mgr. Peter Tuharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been in context, meant as many of those problems -a relative part of problems, not absolute number of them. No, it's not worth the time. It's a history.

Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, what I am really missing in the current dependency scheme is WHY some packages define Recommends and Suggests on specific other packages. My problem with the current situation that you either do the policy of always installing such stuff or you don't. There is no way to decide case by case

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 18 Mai 2007 01:56 schrieb Don Armstrong: The recommends should be a set such that you'd want to install them, unless you know specifically why you don't. [In the majority of cases that I've personally run into, this means unusual setups like a separate database server, stripped

Re: update-initramfs -k all -u

2007-05-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 18 Mai 2007 08:26 schrieb martin f krafft: also sprach David Härdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.05.18.0118 +0200]: The reason I didn't use it in cryptsetup's initramfs script was that many people who have 1 kernel use the second one as a fallback. In case the updated version of

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 19 Mai 2007 07:14 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: If you do not wish to educate yourself on the details, perhaps you should be heeding the directions given to you by the maintainer? Perhaps. But first, but not all packages are actually strict about that and I do not want to

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

2007-06-11 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 11 Juni 2007 22:15 schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention No, I hate that convention. K and k should only ever refer to 1024. /me waits for the day measuring jugs are graduated in

Re: Mass bug filing: Dependency/file list predictability

2007-07-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 17:47 schrieb Russ Allbery: So in addition to having a --with-krb5 flag specifying the paths to the libraries, I also need to add a --without-* flag for every Kerberos implementation that I support which disables probing for that implementation? That's kind of lame,

Re: Bug#435020: ITP: p54 -- Driver for Prism54 softmac 802.11 wireless LAN adapters

2007-07-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 28 Juli 2007 16:40 schrieb Sam Morris: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package name: p54 Version : 20070728-6e46e62 Upstream Author : Jean-Baptiste Note, NetChip Technology, Inc., David Brownell, Michael

Re: Bug#435020: ITP: p54 -- Driver for Prism54 softmac 802.11 wireless LAN adapters

2007-07-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 28 Juli 2007 18:05 schrieb Sam Morris: On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:15:50 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Is that really worth it, knowing that it will probably never be in a stable release? There is also a p54 in wireless-dev, based on mac80211. Maybe you have knowledge of what's going

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 08 August 2007 16:39 schrieb Ben Goodger: On 08/08/2007, Tim Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Making laptop frequency scaling/suspend/etc work out of the box when Laptop task is installed We already have this on the desktop, from what I can see (there is evidence of a

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 08 August 2007 23:02 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: [Julian Andres Klode] We should try to use binary packages provided by linux-modules-* or other modules packages by default and fallback to m-a. You might want to check out the recent changes to discover and discover-data. It

Re: Debian on the Desktop - plans for Lenny?

2007-08-09 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 09 August 2007 21:23 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: [Hendrik Sattler] Is discover still installed by default on new installs? Not sure. I suspect it depend on the task being installed. It is currently used to detect which X driver to activate, but that need will go away

Re: Bug#497304: general: packages cannot be partially installed

2008-09-20 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Tuesday 02 September 2008 16:01:17 schrieb Michelle Konzack: Am 2008-08-31 19:08:49, schrieb Mark Hobley: eg: coreutils depends on coreutils-fileutils and coreutils-fileutils depends on coreutils-fileutils-head, coreutils-fileutils-split This would leed into over 200.000 Binary

Re: Bug#516415: ITP: skysentials -- extra functionalities for Skype Linux client

2009-02-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 21 Februar 2009 11:29:19 schrieb Rafael Laboissiere: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rafael Laboissiere raf...@debian.org * Package name: skysentials Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Philipp Kolmann phil...@kolmann.at * URL :

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Joerg Schilling schrieb: As a hint: the work mkisofs is the plain files that can be found in the sub-directory mkisofs in the cdrtools source tree. Other sub-directories in this source tree colletion contain _other_ independent works. option type=personal So you like to enhance a program

Re: Fwd: Re: Why no Opera?

2007-09-05 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dynamic linking is what the security team likes since it means that you only update the code once for the whole system. However, in the event that there is an update which makes the library non-binary compatible, then there is another problem.

Re: Proposal regarding future packaging

2007-09-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 18 September 2007 schrieb Ken Spath: If after I install casu or netdiag, I type man casu or man netdiag there is nothing. whereis / find / apt-cache search / apt-file search were necessary How many current debian users and users of forked distributions know of apt-file or even

Re: Bug#445105: ITP: fuse-convmvfs -- mirrors a whole filesystem tree from one charset to another

2007-10-03 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch 03 Oktober 2007 schrieb Stanislav Maslovski: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stanislav Maslovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: fuse-convmvfs Version : 0.2.4 Upstream Author : Z.C. Miao [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL :

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 25 Oktober 2007 schrieb Vincent Danjean: racoon seems to be a replacement for a cisco system (server, NOT client) I cannot modify the server infrastructure at my work (this can change: I'm not the only one annoyed by the cisco client). So racoon does not seem to fit as a drop-in

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