Re: Bug Terrorism

third party and maintainer of deliver) don't think this is important enough to hold up hamm. But I do. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au

Re: Bug Terrorism

with the idea. This is not worth holding up the release of Hamm for. The simplicity of the fix is not relevant. Fine. If that's you want, you've got it. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au

Re: Upgrading to Debian 2.1

Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: nfs-server Implied-by: netbase ( x.x) This header would only be used by package selection UIs (like apt). You can get the same info out of the Replaces header. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert

Re: w only giving `-' as the FROM field

version. It's certainly not a bug in telnetd, or it wouldn't have been fixed by an upgrade in login. telnetd does not write the utmp/wtmp records, it gets login to do it as well as the authentication. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

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Re: libc6 is too large?

, timezone info, nss, etc.) It's because the maintainer decided to go against the policy and not strip the libraries. This has already been reported as a bug against libc6 (#40467). -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

/main.c:23: linux/head.h: No such file or directoryherberDebian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:14,herberEmail: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] from init/main.c:20:herberHome Page: http

Re: fds_bits

to do with this fds_bits thing? You're supposed to inspect these things with the FD_* macros, try man select -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au

Re: Bug#45307: [PROPOSAL] virtual package ident-server

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Re: Guessing the date style from the timezone for postgresql postinst

| right ) ^ is causing this. Thanks; I'll remove it. This is perfectly legal (although redundant). The slink ash was buggy but it's fixed potato. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http

Re: A few changes

, perhaps under the source package's bug page. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

versions of 2.? kernels installed. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Bug#45307: [PROPOSAL] virtual package ident-server

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Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

that (yet). Just make sure that when you do throw it out, you take the bible with it :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

(debian|upstream) versions as well. You can easily override this on the command line or in the environment. BTW, is any 2.0.38 package planned? Yes, but it is pretty low priority on my todo list. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 24, 1999

are there? oidentd pidentd which else? Please don't do the conflict thing, get pidentd and see how it deals with it. Do the same in yours. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

. as long as they don't overlap in their fs namespace. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

. But for the problem at hand, which is compiling the actual kernel with gcc272, CC works just fine. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

Yes it does, make bzImage HOSTCC=/usr/bin/egcs -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

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Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

kernel actually sets CC to include certain options. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: a question about BTS severities

/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: [Q] Use gcc272 to compile package for potato?

should try to find the reason for it if at all possible, and only consider gcc272 as a last resort. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert

Re: a question about BTS severities

Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herbert Xu wrote: I disagree. If a package causes a remote root exploit to be available, even if it's only in a very specific configuration, I would say that it is critical. No, it's grave. All security bugs are grave, it's part of the definition

Re: a question about BTS severities

(and important and others) in all the relevant docos that I've seen. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

... The license issues seem to be sorted out for me. So I'll have a go at it. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: slink - potato

. The same thing applies to other daemons being upgraded, including ssh. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: SSH never free

a public key mechism, not to mention that existin ssh clients would not be able to securely connect to obsd-ssh servers : They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL

Re: SSH never free

Joel Klecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:06 +1000 1999-10-02, Herbert Xu wrote: They use libssl, which begs the question why isn't libssl in non-US/non-free? Uh, because it isn't non-free? Here's a quote from the policy: `Non-free' contains packages which are not compliant

Re: slink - potato

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Re: slink - potato

, back to the original problem, the best solution IMHO is just to run telnet/ssh and screen so that none of this really affects you. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key

Re: slink - potato

be upgraded (by whatever program that is in charge) one by one. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: slink - potato

On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 07:06:10PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 08:15:54AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: I think the worst case would be a telnetd linked with a broken shlib (or in the case of telnetd, perhaps a missing or broken /usr/lib/telnetd/login) that gives

Re: slink - potato

On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 09:36:36PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Herbert Xu wrote: If anyone has seen an existing connection die, please report that as a bug. what against? internet ?? My message was about telnetd getting killed, so of course it would be against

Re: should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

/etc/init.d/gpm instead. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: SSH never free

Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 02, Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license. Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what happens in someone else country? Please have a look at our policy. -- Debian

Re: netstd split results in loss of functionality

does not update the inetd entry. The reason is that the old netstd did not enable tftpd by default, while the new tftpd package always enables tftpd. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au

Re: weird NFS problem

version here. Whether it will get into potato is up to the release manager. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 10, 2000

/main) Maintainer: Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 59642 nfs-server: conflicts with Standard package nfs-kernel-server Huh? Isn't this what it is expected to? They can't both be standard if they conflict with each other, see Policy. I will be uploading a new release with a symlink bug fix

Re: Permission policy

in from anywhere else in the world, he can request the privileges from that process. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Two maintainer entrys in bug reports by maintainer

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Re: Two maintainer entrys in bug reports by maintainer

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Re: Advice on inetd Denial of Service Bug

, now what's that thing called netstat(1) which happens to be in your package and also happens to have a flag called -p? :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http

Re: Advice on inetd Denial of Service Bug

is essentially what netstat does with -p. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: DUL (was Re: RBL report..)

a spammer, it can easily be blocked, thus giving a relay's admin a very strong incentive to act. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

a command that should be in the path (but look before you leap) is this: But I thought one of the main complaints was that /usr/sbin wasn't in the PATH. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 05:55:38PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: But I thought one of the main complaints was that /usr/sbin wasn't in the PATH. Generally, maintainer scripts, and programs meant to be run by root, run as root. If a program expects

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

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Re: Intel Assembly error

be the ravings of a deranged lunatic. Which they are, as usual. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: Intel Assembly error

Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: int bradon; __asm__(.align 2,0x90\n1:\tdecl %0\n\tjns 1b : =a (=brandon): 0 (loops)); Make that int brandon; __asm__ __volatile__(.align 2,0x90\n1:\tdecl %0\n\tjns 1b : =a (brandon): 0 (loops)); Oh, and you should probably upgrade your

Re: Intent To Split: netbase

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Re: Intent To Split: netbase

form of netstat tool; for instance, when diagnosing routing snmpnetstat will show the routing table of routers that export it through SNMP. My point is that route in this case is simply a special case of snpmnetstat. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:10:04AM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: It parses command line -en different from bash. Different getopts ;-) How does it differ? AFAIK, ash's getopts is POSIX compliant. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

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Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

have a policy that says #!/bin/sh scripts need to be POSIX compliant. You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts. I use it on all my systems and currently nothing breaks. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herbert == Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herbert And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh scripts Herbert need to be POSIX compliant. What policy says is: We were talking about echo -ne, not echo -n which ash

Re: dpkg-scanpackages arguments, output Packages files, and apt

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Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: want. Shall we make something like 700 default? It would break some things like UserDir public_html in Apache, etc. In my school server You could make it 711. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

standard. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: X and runlevels

(and may even be damaged) with the current X settings. Single user mode. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: apt-move problem

when you first upgraded didn't you? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: apt-move problem

(at least not without doing an fsck later). -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: apt-move problem

Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 08:24:09AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: This occurs when apt-move first moves the packages in, which is why you m= ust never move packages in by hand (at least not without doing an fsck later). my apologies.. I was under

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start on package install/upgrade out-of-runlevel

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Re: RFC: fix for daemon start on package install/upgrade out-of-runlevel

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:19:10AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Herbert Xu wrote: Which is why it should only be killed in prerm/preinst. Which makes all the supposed simple restart solution for the runlevel problem fail in _all_ cases. Thank you for reminding me

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

their packages, but run this utility just before they upload. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:26:37PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 12:13:57PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: You're ignoring our main disagreement. Which is whether most people should use precompiled kernel images or recompile them. no, i'm not. i keep on trying to get

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

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Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

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Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

kernel modules now that there are known hax0r stealth modules which exist purely to hide the fact that a system has been compromised. And what does this have to do with our discussion? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

the users compile the rest. Let's rewind the clock back to times when men were men, and they compiled everything on their own box :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

David Spreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 10:16:36PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: With the latest release, it's now down to about 80MB. In any case, we never release with more than one old kernel, nor with experimental kernels, so that would be 1 x 2.2.x, and at most 2 x 2.4.x

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

and set $KSRC? You can't build-depend on a source package. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

are: apt-get source kernel-image-2.4.3-i386 -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

. How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed Linux? The most important function of initrd is to reduce the number of kernel images needed on boot floppies to one. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

and make a modules package. The netfilter is modularised after all. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

are (mostly) really static. Only in /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include/linux: modversions.h Only in /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include/linux: version.h -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

to enlighten me are welcome. I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary only modules. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

Herbert Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary only modules. I meant to say binary modules. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

if you want to compile binary modules with checksums. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:15:03AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 07:24:13PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: How are they going to compile a kernel if they haven't even installed Linux? that's obvious. by installing linux and then compiling a kernel. I hope you're being

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:37:55PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: I'm talking about people like VMWare, i.e., people who distribute binary only modules. Call *me* a cretin, but wouldn't that be non-free? Binary-only modules should be slain. Plus, they've

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

. why are they needed? For module builders. and while you're at it, how about answering the other questions that you ignored in my last message? Which were? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

umount -n /devfs mount -nrt ext2 /dev/legolas/root0 /mnt cd /mnt pivot_root . initrd EOF -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:47:48PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: They still suck, and they're still non-free. Who said that we were going to distribute them? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:00:01PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:49:48PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Who said that we were going to distribute them? If we don't distribute them, why in hell are we breaking mirrors by supporting them? Sounds dodgy to me. So

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

, as is mirror.aarnet.edu.au. Breaks a dist-upgrade (out-of-sync Packages, and actual packages). Prove that it is caused by the kernel images and I'll get rid of them. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

actually have any hard facts regarding mirrors broken by kernel images or do you just like spreading FUD? -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:45:11PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:20:43PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: FUD. Show me what's actually broken. Mirrors. Slow. Out-of-sync. It's still FUD until you produce the evidence that it's caused by the kernel images. Prove

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

AND TEN MEGABYTES PER KERNEL RELEASE DOES NOT HELP MIRRORS WHICH HAVE ... Somehow I don't see how 2 has got anything to do with 1. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

against the right package, i.e., work out who's constructing what before you go off filing bugs. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

up much more space than one kernel source would. Just change the rules to not call make-kpkg build and make-kpkg kernel-image and you're set. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:33:25AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config file, and the other ones are built with their respective config files. so, what's the difference between all

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:10:48PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 08:01:39PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: So that they can compile them? If you don't understand why we should do that, then there's no point in us two arguing about it. If they're binary-only, I doubt much

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 02:14:40PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:33:25AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 07:30:47PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Kernel-headers-2.4.2 is built with the default config file, and the other ones are built

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat breaks module builders

them down or even worse, you end up with module packages that don't work with the kernels. I'm happy to answer questions about how the kernel-headers can be used to make this process easier. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:14:18PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:06:21AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: Bullshit. Why don't you do a diff instead of talking about something that you have no idea about? Do you deny that the file named autoconf.h contains precicely what I

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

that they're willing to compile it for your specifications. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

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