Re: Hamm CD layouts

1998-06-17 Thread Philip Hands
Has any consensus been reached about the best layout to be used for Hamm disks? I've written several 3-CD sets for people so far using a simple layout (below), but it would be nice to be able to produce to produce ones similar to the official ones... Disk 1: Main binary (i386, bootable)

Re: Base system tarball Q [XTerminal]

1998-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
You might want to look at the Linux Router Project: http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ which is building a Debian-ish single floppy router. Also, it's worth noting that you can format 3.5'' floppies to contain up to about 2MB, by using bizarre sectors/track settings. This is also

Re: offline till 24.6. evening

1998-06-20 Thread Philip Hands
will fix then some important stuff on the cdrom (easier access to the tools like rawrite etc.). andreas I Just produced some new images, the main difference being that the binary disks have main -- hamm links in debian/hamm, and they have the latest pakages on them, as of a couple of hours

Re: rsync vs. ftp usage

1998-06-20 Thread Philip Hands
is rsync realy so good ? The only real problem with it for this use, is that if the link dies completely, I think rsync discards the partial image. Other than that, it is muck more likely to result in a bit-for-bit copy of the original than ftp, and if you've got the space for two copies of

Re: offline till 24.6. evening

1998-06-20 Thread Philip Hands
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously Philip Hands wrote: I Just produced some new images, the main difference being that the binary disks have main -- hamm links in debian/hamm, and they have the latest pakages on them, as of a couple of hours ago. Darn, I should have

binary-i386 CD autoup

1998-06-20 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, It struck me as important that the autoup stuff go on the CDROM image, so I've added it to the root directory in a directory called autoup. This contains the 8MB tarball, as well as the script and readme etc. so we shouldn't have problems with version skew between autoup.sh and the main

Re: selling hamm CD 's ?

1998-06-20 Thread Philip Hands
On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 02:42:03AM +, Michael Shields wrote: : In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], : G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Does anyone have hamm CD's to sell yet ? I have a friend in Paris : who wants to install on a laptop. I'd hate to see him go RH. I think he :

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-22 Thread Philip Hands
I presume that there would be no question of this discussion even starting if libc6 had already got an epoch of 1: It's epoch would just have been bumped up to 2: and nobody would have noticed the difference. Since there is an implicit epoch of 0: on the front of all non-epoch versions, we are

[OFF-TOPIC] UKUUG Linux Developers Event -- Who's going ?

1998-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, Just wondering how many Debianites are signed up to attend the UK Unix User Group's Linux Developers Event this weekend (27-28 June) in Manchester, UK. BTW Anyone that is attending ought to bring a copy of their PGP public key, and proof of ID so we can do some key signing can happen.

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
Here's another reason using the epoch for this situation is bad, if you continue the process you get something like: 2.0.6 2.0.7pre1 1:2.0.7 1:2.0.8pre1 2:2.0.8 2:2.0.9pre1 3:2.0.10 3:2.0.10pre1 4:2.0.11 ... No, that's not what happens at all. It's more like this: 2.0.6-1

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Dale Scheetz writes: In the mean time, unless anyone can object within the next several hours, I will construct and upload a new release of glibc with the version number: 2.0.7r-1 I would advise for 2.0.7final instead. IMHO 2.0.7r looks much like an additional

binary-i386 2.0-beta gold-CD's in the UK

1998-06-24 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, I'll be burning some copies of the 2.0-beta images today. If anyone in the UK wants a copy, mail me. (I expect I'll do them for a fiver each, depending upon the numbers involved). If anyone that's going to the UKUUG Event in Manchester this weekend wants a copy, mail me, and I'll bring

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-24 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, Dale == Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dale Epochs are not, were never, intended to be used for this Dale purpose. They are only for dealing with upstream renumbering Dale that would cause conflicts. I thought this was all about the upstream releasing pre-releases

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-24 Thread Philip Hands
Well, it made _me_ laugh :-) I wonder if an epoch would have caused the same problem... I've watched this discussion. I have formed the opinion that using an epoch in this case was not the right way to do it. The r will serve for the moment, and future versions should be handled

2.0-beta CD Image mirror sites ?

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, Could those of you who have grabbed, or are intending to grab the cd images from www.uk.debian.org, and then offer them for anon access, please mail me, so I can add your sites to the list of mirrors. For more info about how to grab them from www.uk see this:

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Philip Hands wrote: for all future time. People make mistakes choosing version numbers, and we have a mechanism for recovering these mistakes. People being ``inventive'' so they can maintain the aesthetic beauty of a control file that is rarely seen by anyone

Re: 2.0-beta CD Image mirror sites ?

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
Brederlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] In what formats are those images provided? Single ISO image per CD. It would be nice to download the image in parts including md5sums and to have some additional error correction chunks like ras provides. For the final release, this is probably worth the effort,

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
When properly used epochs do not hang around forever. Consider the situation where epochs are supposed to be used: Upstream Debian 1.0 1.0 2.0 2.0 3.0 3.0 2.01:2.0 3.01:3.0 4.0

Re: New web pages are finally up!

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
The latest version of the Debian web pages are complete. They are being mirrored to www.debian.org as I write this. They look great :-) You've gone back to calling www.uk ``England'' though... I still prefer ``Britain'' to ``United Kingdom'', but either will do. Cheers, Phil. -- To

Re: 2.0-beta CD Image mirror sites ?

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
--0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Previously Brederlow wrote: In what formats are those images provided? It would be nice to download the image in parts including md5sums and to have some additional error

Re: libc6_2.0.7 release notes...

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Philip Hands wrote: until 2.1.0 comes out, so that we wouldn't need to use a ``dirty, evil epoch''. No one has said anything about dirt or evil with respect to epochs. Sorry, I was being facetious, and I forgot the ;-) Policy says not to use them

Re: 2.0-beta CD Image mirror sites ?

1998-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with rsync at the moment is that if the transfer is interrupted, it throws away the partial image --- Andrew Tridgell said he'd fix this though. ... If you use wget, and find that the md5sum that results is wrong, you should be able

Re: My BitFontEdit as a Debian Package

1998-06-26 Thread Philip Hands
Since I wrote the code and some documentation on how to use it, it shouldn't be too hard to package it for Debian (or will it be?). Should easy. The main bit of debianising a package, is encapsulated in a makefile (debian/rules), which normally invokes the make clean, make all, and make

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Philip Hands
Raul, A question for you: Let's say I write a Qt program (and confirm that it works by linking it against Qt in the privacy of my own home) and then I include it (the source code) in a book as a programming example, and I GPL the whole book. Will people be allowed to copy and modify my

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-13 Thread Philip Hands
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's say I write a Qt program (and confirm that it works by linking it against Qt in the privacy of my own home) and then I include it (the source code) in a book as a programming example, and I GPL

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-14 Thread Philip Hands
So, slink is more than 760 Megabytes big for i386 machines. This does not fit on one single CD. This means that even without contrib, non-free, non-US etc. we already need two cds. This needs to be addressed quick! Heiko Schlittermann has written a new dselect installation method that

Re: Linuxconf

1998-10-15 Thread Philip Hands
matthew.r.pavlovich.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the current status of linuxconf and debian? I made a package up, which is currently in experimental because it breaks booting, and doesn't understand includes in /etc/named, among other things. If people would like to have a look at it,

Re: Uploaded ssh 1.2.26-4 (source i386) to non-US

1999-05-12 Thread Philip Hands
On 12 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ssh (1.2.26-4) unstable; urgency=low . * make sure that ssh1 gets user suid bit set (closes: #37127) Files: 264c7c1726f8d333a7de8c356bd7a73e 619 non-us/net optional ssh_1.2.26-4.dsc 8346f02e1de9f0771a56612e044b2b91 46926 non-us/net

Re: Upload queue software?

1999-05-14 Thread Philip Hands
Roman Hodek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's in project/misc/debianqueued-0.8.tar.gz. It's no proper Debian package because it runs on other Unixes, too (mine runs under Solaris). Hmm, why does that prevent you from packaging it? : It doesn't really :-), but: - A Debian package

Re: (LONG) Correct non-US solution

1999-05-18 Thread Philip Hands
Jonathan Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do you figure Joey? Some countries will let us distribute patented stuff... other countries will let us distribute crypto stuff... The scheme proposed does do away with non-US, by making its original functionality so fine-grained that it

Re: an idea - upload queue on va

1999-05-20 Thread Philip Hands
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the upload queue software is packaged I'll evaluate installing it on a couple machines. Did someone volenteer? I forget.. Ah, I think that was me. I forgot too. Oops. :-) I should be able to sort it out on Saturday. Cheers, Phil.

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

1999-05-21 Thread Philip Hands
Adam Di Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When this idea was tossed around for the first time (around Sep 1998) we settled for profile-* packages. I'm amenable to using 'profile-*' naming. Martin? How about creating a new section ``profiles'' for

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-22 Thread Philip Hands
Tim (Pass the Prozac) Sailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For those in the UK, you can also do it this way: deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian potato \ main contrib non-free non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free [that should all be on one line, with no \ ] Cheers, Phil.

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-22 Thread Philip Hands
Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe vi on the boot disks should simply say vi didn't fit on the bootdisk, so please use the self explaining 'ae' which will be started right now and forget about the bothersome vi emulation nuisance. This has been suggested before, and I've no idea why

open.hands.com (www.uk.debian.org) changing IP addresses, and down time.

1999-05-22 Thread Philip Hands
Hi folks, open.hands.com is being moved next week (which means it will be off the air for a few hours, and will have a new IP address afterwards). This machine hosts (among other things): www.uk.debian.org ftp.uk.debian.org cdimage.debian.org and is a DNS server for debian and a bunch

Re: Intent to package: tuxeyes

1999-05-22 Thread Philip Hands
William Ono [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tuXeyes is a X toy that works like xeyes. It is licensed under the GPL but uses Qt, so it will go into contrib. If it is under the GPL, and is dependent upon Qt, then it has an invalid license, and cannot be distributed. As such it will not be allowed

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 09:21:22AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: Are you saying that people should sign keys received via e-mail, rather than face to face ? If so, I'm strongly against this. Why? I'd have hoped that that was clear by now

Re: extipl, mbr--why? (was: GRUB)

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Andrew Pimlott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:22:33PM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: btw, anyone tried my extipl package for potato ? I think it is superior than current i386 mbr on features that it can boot up the system on the other hard disk (if the OS in that place

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do you prove to whoever is able to erase the package that you are who you say you are? I.e. how do you convince them that they should in fact erase the package? You do that by sending them a message signed with a new key, that you have had signed

Re: Migrating to GPG - A mini-HOWTO

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Paul Slootman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed 15 Sep 1999, Philip Hands wrote: I know there is some pathetic kudos about how many signatures you have Is the pathetic part the reason why you don't have any? :-) Ah, I'd not updated my key in the keyring since I joined. Well not until

Re: ttyS0 vs cua0

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How universal is the use of ttyS0 instead of cua0 in other distribution (e.g. Red Hat)? I told the upstream maintainer of powstatd (a UPS monitor) that I has changing cua0 to ttyS0 in the docs and config file for Debian, and he said he'd changed

Strange mail from Anders Arnholm (was Re: /opt/ again (was Re: FreeBSD-like approach for Debian? [was: ...]))

1999-09-15 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, Is anyone else seeing all this header drivel in everything that Anders mails, or have I got something in my gnus setup totally screwed ? The scattering of CR's in the Subject seem somewhat suspicious to me. Cheers, Phil. Anders Arnholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In-reply-to: morpheus's

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Philip Hands
Joe Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gpg: Signature made Wed Sep 15 12:08:31 1999 EDT using DSA key ID 2FA3BC2D gpg: Good signature from Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-16 Thread Philip Hands
Wait a second. So this mc script is an attempt to leave you in the directory you were in when you left mc ? Well that won't work will it? Try running this: cd /tmp; ( cd /etc; pwd ); pwd and you'll get /etc /tmp the ``cd /etc'' only applies in the shell executed in the brackets. The

Re: GPG trusted signatures, dpkg-buildpackage gpg

1999-09-16 Thread Philip Hands
Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] Previously Philip Hands wrote: Given that this key only seems to have been signed by Ray Dassen and itself Did you update your keyring recently? I have a bit more signatures: sheikh:~$ dpkg -l debian

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-17 Thread Philip Hands
Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] * Philip Hands said: Wait a second. So this mc script is an attempt to leave you in the directory you were in when you left mc ? [snip] /etc /tmp the ``cd /etc'' only applies

Re: Crazy Idea: debian developer conference

1999-09-17 Thread Philip Hands
Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Meder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool idea. But would it help Debian except of being a big social developer event ? Sometimes social functions can lead to increased cooperation. Plus there's the opportunity to discuss technical

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-17 Thread Philip Hands
Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] * Piotr Roszatycki said: Well that won't work will it? Try running this: cd /tmp; ( cd /etc; pwd ); pwd No no, it isn't mc script but only function in your ~/.bash_profile or

Re: (g)mc-4.5.38-2 still broken

1999-09-17 Thread Philip Hands
Marek Habersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well then, they should be provided to the Debian user. They, AFAIR, install a similar function to the one presented in the other mail. The standard /etc/profile and similar scripts for other shells could be modified to source all scripts in, eg,

Re: Announcing debconf, configuration management for debian

1999-09-20 Thread Philip Hands
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve Greenland wrote: I've read (or at least skimmed) the tutorial you posted, and it looks like the various configuration variables are associated with a package via the template foo/variable. What about variables that are logically shared between

Re: static user IDs

1999-09-22 Thread Philip Hands
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 10:15:10AM +0200, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: Who will agree with me that qmail[dsrqlp] should be forbidden Their existance in /etc/passsd rape me thru my eyes 6 statics for

Re: Add your location to the developer db so it can be added to the map

1999-09-22 Thread Philip Hands
Hugo Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Sep 22, 1999, James A. Treacy wrote: If you would like your location to be shown on the map you need to add your location to the developer database: http://db.debian.org/ I have the feeling that I missed something, but anyway as I don't manage

Re: Add your location to the developer db so it can be added to the map

1999-09-23 Thread Philip Hands
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 01:26:19PM -0400, James A. Treacy wrote: Check out the new map showing developer locations:

Re: Add your location to the developer db so it can be added to the map

1999-09-23 Thread Philip Hands
James A. Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. It would be especially good if people could try to get their info in there in the next week or so, since we appear to have a stand at an Expo in London (http://www.itevents.co.uk/exhibitions/linux/default.htm) on the 6th 7th of

Re: Can I have a package with no real name of upstream maintainer?

1999-09-29 Thread Philip Hands
Thomas Schoepf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:18:01PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: I'm packaging tkpgp, from munitions.vipul.net archive. The upstream maintainer doesn't want reveal his real name and wants only tftp as

Re: Can I have a package with no real name of upstream maintainer?

1999-09-30 Thread Philip Hands
David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 04:32:08PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: Thomas Schoepf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 12:18:01PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: I'm packaging tkpgp, from munitions.vipul.net archive. The upstream

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could blame myself, but the fact is the image was not created right (it needs to be done as either root, or under fakeroot, which requires the *entire* process be done in a single session, not multiple fakeroot incantations, which might be the cause

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes: Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have any time at all to check things, or for Phil to double check things with you as to how things should be done

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WTF is the difference? Nothing but a naming scheme. It's still a change, either way you do it, why do you want to nitpick the mechanism? Personally, I'd favour doing something that makes it as clear as possible that it was a CD production SNAFU, and that

SPARC images rebuilt

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
J.A. Bezemer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay; I think r0.1 will be the only thing fitting nicely in the disklabel (32 bytes), as powerpc-sparc=2 ;-) Unfortunately, it didn't seem to want to fit (I fail to understand why, and I'm too tired to work it out). So the disk label has been set things

Re: 1.3 installation report.

1997-05-19 Thread Philip Hands
2. I installed shadowing as it suggested - started installing packages merrily. I also installed and configured NIS - however, I cannot log in any in my personal account - though I can finger anyone without trouble. I deinstalled shadow by doing a shadowconfig off and that still didn't fix

Re: rm -r * and the default prompt

1997-05-20 Thread Philip Hands
Anybody should know that before typing rm -rf * or an equivalent, you THINK FIRST, every time. And AFTER you type it. The prompt doesn't make the slightest difference when the death knell sounds: rm: .o: No such file or directory and it dawns on you there was an extra space in the last

Re: 1.3 installation report.

1997-05-20 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, 2. I installed shadowing as it suggested - started installing packages merrily. I also installed and configured NIS - however, I cannot log in any in my personal account - though I can finger anyone without trouble. I deinstalled shadow by doing a shadowconfig off and that still

Re: rm -r * and the default prompt

1997-05-21 Thread Philip Hands
Generally, after installing any system, I add this to ~/.profile for root:- alias rm=/bin/rm -i This is a BAD thing to do. If you want this use a different name, like: alias del=/bin/rm -i Otherwise it is all too easy to get into the habit of doing rm * and picking the ones you want,

Re: GOAL: Consistent Keyboard Configuration

1997-05-25 Thread Philip Hands
For example, on my keyboard I can use the up- and down-arrow keys to scroll in less (on the console and in an Xterm), but the PgUp and PgDn keys only work in the Xterm--not on the console. Huh. I have the opposite problem: The end key doens't work in xterms! xterms are in my experience

Re: Questions (Debian Install) (fwd)

1997-05-25 Thread Philip Hands
Hm; I thought there was some way I could ask Linux where on my hard drive the minicom program was; something like ls -R minic* but that doesn't work What is the *nix way to Find file with name:___ ? I know how to do this with the Mac OS and several different Microsoft OSes, it's kinda

Re: ssh and default home directory permissions (revisited?)

1997-05-26 Thread Philip Hands
You can make ssh accept group writable home dirs by changing a line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: StrictModes yes needs to be changed to StrictModes no I personally prefer to change the home directories to be only writable by user, but that is because I'm paranoid. Maybe the install script

Re: Release notes

2002-04-07 Thread Philip Hands
with DVD writers mail me, I'm likely to be persuaded to make some beta DVDs before the release, so we can check bootability before the event. Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM

Re: default file perms

1997-05-29 Thread Philip Hands
b4f978d71d6dd8d4558632b5a185f28d 37760 root root 755 r/bin/ls (with type being 'r' for regular files, 'b', 'c', 'p', 'l' for (respectively) block and character devices, pipes, links). It might be worth adding a type for control files, to make it easier to spot the difference

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Philip Hands
Communication should be done via a package-specific mailing list. The maintainer of the package decides who has commit privileges for this package and who gets on this package's developers' mailing-list. This mailing list could be used as target for the bug reports against this package.

Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-05-30 Thread Philip Hands
What I was trying to achieve was to have qmail forward a message without messing around with the headers any more than necessary. Thus, I wanted to have a .qmail-packages-default file to handle the packages.debian.org domain, and that would look up the package name and map it to the maintainer

Re: Using CVS for package development

1997-05-30 Thread Philip Hands
I have had a very quick look at the aegis README. It has a baseline (main trunk in CVS; no mention of multiple independent branches and back merging that I could see). It relies on RCS or CVS for its version control, so you get access to most if not all the features of those (or at

Re: packages.debian.org qmail (was Re: Using CVS for package development)

1997-06-01 Thread Philip Hands
(1) user-map [if all package maintainers are local] If you just want to be delivering mail to package_name@packages.debian.org (rather than package_name-extension@packages.debian.org), you can deliver to remote addresses with: In users/assign, create one line per package:

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Philip Hands
[ I've not been following this thread too closely, so if I've got the wrong idea, please forgive me ] The GPL is a very restrictive license. In many ways, it is just as restrictive as the Qt license. Particularily in the case of libraries, using it as Cygnus is doing (to make money) goes

Re: Env-varaibles

1997-06-02 Thread Philip Hands
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: for SmallEiffel (which I am packaging) to work at all, it needs an env-variable to be set. Is it not possible to patch the program, to default to the value that you were going to write into /etc/profile ? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Re: giving away ssh

1997-06-02 Thread Philip Hands
I'm writing my phd-thesis at the moment and time is getting shorter, so I do have to give away the ssh-package. I should be taken by someone in the *free world*. Ok, I'll take it --- I use it all the time anyway, so it should be no hardship. Also, it's about time I tried a multi-target

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-03 Thread Philip Hands
Hi Jim, Imagine if Microsoft demanded that everybody had to use a certain license in order to run on top of their operating system. Well, they do actually. Microsoft charges for the licences to use it's ``operating systems''. If the Freeware community produces software that ends up helping

Re: 1.3 installation report

1997-06-04 Thread Philip Hands
The fix is very simple: ctrl-alt-F1; log in as root; shadowconfig off; return to x and log in normally. But you do have to know this.. and there is no warning when installing shadow or xdm. Arrrghhh! I spent two hours yesterday (past midnite) on the phone with a client trying to

Details of problems caused by Tecra patch required

1997-06-05 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, I sent some mail to the author of the Tecra kernel patch, Jens Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED], and he replies thus: Philip Hands wrote: One thing that I thought you might be interested in is that for a while during testing, the kernel patch was included on the soon to be released Debian

Re: How do we encourage bug reports?

1997-06-11 Thread Philip Hands
Perhaps you could think over the whole thing and how we could arrange to have an installation without the need to answer questions. The main thing to do is to separate the question asking from the other scripts. SVR4's package system does this by having a request script for each package that

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-14 Thread Philip Hands
Both qmail (which proved insecure most evil grin) To what are you referring ? Probably what was reported on the djb-qmail mailing list, where you start sending data, but no CR-LF, down the line and qmail malloc's some memory for it, then malloc's some more, and some more, etc. I

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

1997-06-14 Thread Philip Hands
Let me remind you of one thing... Both qmail (which proved insecure most evil grin) To what are you referring ? and Exim are not capable of UUCP or even bang paths! Qmail is most definitely capable of UUCP (I use it here), and AFAIK bang paths can be done with rmail. So a lot of those

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, This discussion seems to keep getting side tracked with ``program X does not support feature Y'' type statements. In the case of qmail at least, I'd just like to emphasise that every feature that I've wanted (or seen asked for on the qmail list), that is not explicitly included in

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
I think we should also consider switching to Maildir/ format for mail drops, since it seems to be the only way for delivering mail securely over NFS. I think we should try to stick with solutions that work with both Maildir and central spool directories, since otherwise it is difficult to

Re: Debian's mail daemons

1997-06-18 Thread Philip Hands
Philip Hands wrote: I think we should seriously consider using qmail as our default MTA. It's only real weakness lies in it's documentation, and that should be reasonably easy to fix. AFAIK, qmail is highly antisocial WRT the number of connections it forces on a recipient host

Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, Since discussing this in private resulted in me doing something stupid, I'll Cc: this to the list (all comments welcome). [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: pppd is not just a dialout tool but also used to allow dialin. The group dip has been designed for that purpose (dialup ip). A user might be a

Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
I was just wondering why we havn't upgraded to the new upstream version 2.3.0, which has been out since may 22. I would figure it whould have quite a few fixes for some of the problems in 2.2.0. There is a Debian package of 2.3.0 in project/experimental. I've only recently taken on

Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
pppd should include all functionality possible. But the IPX features should be disabled by default in the configuration file. As far as I can tell having -ipx-protocol in /etc/ppp/options does this, so that's what I've done. When I upload the next version (to put the group back to ``dip''),

Re: Documentation Policy

1997-06-24 Thread Philip Hands
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the documentation files in all available formats do not require more than 100k of disk space _together_, they may be included in the main package. Otherwise, the will have to be distributed in seperate packages, one for each

Re: Anyone made a qmail-1.01 experimental package.

1997-06-25 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, I've got a copy of qmail-1.01 built with diffs I got from Christian. The diffs worked out of the box, which is why I've not uploaded anything (since Christian has obviously already done the work, and I didn't want to tread on his toes). I've since applied some of the anti-spam patches

Re: Duplicate messages on this list

1997-12-05 Thread Philip Hands
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sorry, this came out sounding harsher than it was supposed to. I just think that there are some problems that could really do with solving, and Reply-To: would do it at a relatively small cost. Is it really so hard to use ``Reply All'' and then cut out all the Cc:

Re: gated

1997-12-06 Thread Philip Hands
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Philip Hands wrote: ftp://gated.merit.edu/net-research/gated/gated-R3_5_5.inet.tar.gz (is that the right one ?) and found this in README.license THe current one is gated-3-5-8.tar.gz Please note the Gated 3.5.5 software can distributed in source

Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Sun Dec 7 09:15:28 1997 + (Sekmadienis, 1997 m. gruodio 7 d. 11:15:28 +0200), Mark Baker wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) writes: Okay. I'm building a new unstable version of rxvt with backspace set to ^H. From this

Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-09 Thread Philip Hands
I agree, but if feel the opposite --- == BS should be default because most linux users come from the dos world, and the keys on a linux terminal/xterm should act the same as in dos. Emacs users know more about unix and therfore should know how to change stty erase Um, how does a normal

Re: BS in rxvt+ncurses

1997-12-09 Thread Philip Hands
Well, from a sheer visual standpoint, seeing an arrow pointing to the left, like on the BS key (--), makes one think that pushing that button's going to move the cursor that way, just like the other arrow keys. I've NEVER understood the funky behavior of the BS key on *nix. I think we

qmail: postinst needs to edit /etc/hosts.allow. Is that allowed ?

1997-12-09 Thread Philip Hands
Hi, I need to add a couple of lines to /etc/hosts.allow in qmail, because otherwise qmail will not work under inetd. I presume I'm not supposed to create packages that edit other packages conffiles, so how do I deal with this ? The lines I need to add are of the form: smtp: .YOUR.DOMAIN.:

Re: Checklist request (was: RFC: Deb 2.0 testing process)

1997-12-10 Thread Philip Hands
For example, with the diff package: Package: diff - cmp works on identical and different binary or text files - diff works on files, directories, normal or 2 column - sdiff correctly merges two files - diff3 correctly compares 3 files It seems a shame to have to ask people to do this

Re: Checklist request (was: RFC: Deb 2.0 testing process)

1997-12-11 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Philip Hands wrote: For example, with the diff package: Package: diff - cmp works on identical and different binary or text files - diff works on files, directories, normal or 2 column - sdiff correctly merges two files - diff3 correctly compares

Re: RAS on an NT box.

1997-12-14 Thread Philip Hands
I need to connect a Linux box to an NT server over a dial-up line. The NT box uses a Remote Access Server. I remember seeing a discussion of this recently, but can't find the reference in my mail archives. Can anyone clue me in as to what package/howto I need to look at to deal with this? You

Re: RAS on an NT box.

1997-12-15 Thread Philip Hands
You need to enable ms_chap in PPP --- see README.MSCHAP80 Thanks...read it. Is there any reason, besides the libraries that this hasn't been simply built into our standard ppp package? Not that I've noticed. How much bigger does it get if you static link libpam and libdes? I thought that

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