Re: Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Nilesh Patra
> We already have testing-proposed-updates with a different set of rules. See > https://wiki.debian.org/TestingProposedUpdates Ah, well ofcourse I knew about this. I ended up mis-taking it with the companion suite proposed. Please excuse me for being sloppy there :D -- Sent from my Android

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 20/08/21 7:22 pm, Nilesh Patra wrote: > Well, I meant u-p-u and t-p-u as disconnected suites during freeze. Upload to > u-p-u, stuff passing there migrates to t-p-u. We already have testing-proposed-updates with a different set of rules. See https://wiki.debian.org/TestingProposedUpdates >

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 20 August 2021 7:00:15 pm IST, Pirate Praveen wrote: > > >On 20/08/21 4:51 pm, Nilesh Patra wrote: >> Or, instead, if you have a u-p-u suite, and stuff that passes there migrates >> to t-p-u, >> this could be completely mitigated. > >No, that will defeat the purpose of freeze. t-p-u is

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 20/08/21 4:51 pm, Nilesh Patra wrote: > Or, instead, if you have a u-p-u suite, and stuff that passes there migrates > to t-p-u, > this could be completely mitigated. No, that will defeat the purpose of freeze. t-p-u is targeted at testing without going via unstable. If this has to happen

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 8/20/21 3:51 PM, Stephan Lachnit wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:03 AM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> If you mean keeping unstable as is and uploading stuff for testing into >> t-p-u, that's was always called a bad idea, as nobody tests stuff in >> t-p-u. > > If you don't change anything

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Stephan Lachnit
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:03 AM Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > If you mean keeping unstable as is and uploading stuff for testing into > t-p-u, that's was always called a bad idea, as nobody tests stuff in > t-p-u. If you don't change anything else, then you're right. If you enable t-p-u by

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:01:08AM +0200, Stephan Lachnit wrote: > > Problem: Currently uploading new upstream versions to unstable during > > freeze is discouraged. It means users using unstable don't get new updates > > and developers are forced to upload to experimental. Using experimental >

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-20 Thread Stephan Lachnit
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:32 AM Pirate Praveen wrote: > Problem: Currently uploading new upstream versions to unstable during freeze > is discouraged. It means users using unstable don't get new updates and > developers are forced to upload to experimental. Using experimental directly > is

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Samuel Thibault (2021-08-18): > No. Enabling experimental in your sources.list doesn't actually change > anything. You have to explicitly request installing a given package from > experimental to pull it from experimental, and only that will be getting > updated from experimental, you won't

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:14 pm, Samuel Thibault wrote: Nilesh Patra wrote: Using experimental directly is risky as it can have changes not ready for unstable also. No. Enabling experimental in your sources.list doesn't actually change anything. You have to explicitly request

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nilesh Patra wrote: > Using experimental directly is risky as it can have changes not ready for > unstable also. No. Enabling experimental in your sources.list doesn't actually change anything. You have to explicitly request installing a given package from experimental to pull it from

Re: Proposal to create unstable-proposed-updates suite for use during freeze

2021-08-18 Thread Nilesh Patra
> Hi, > Problem: Currently uploading new upstream versions to unstable during freeze > is discouraged. It means users using unstable don't get new updates and > developers are forced to upload to experimental. Using experimental directly > is risky as it can have changes not ready for unstable